canndo
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I don't want to do that, I want to compare value to value - are cars more valuable than guns?
How many innocent lives are your guns worth?
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I don't want to do that, I want to compare value to value - are cars more valuable than guns?
ASMALLVOICE
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Depends on the type of car or the type of gun, there are both that exceed $1+ million mark, so apples to apples if you will.
Peace
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Doer
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Last I checked they are on our side. Public Corporations that get screwed over by our govt. Run by private, individual well regulated militia.
budlover13
King Tut
You can't just arbitrarily decide who is a potential tyrant and who is not. Not rationally anyways.
NLXSK1
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Are cars a right defined in the constitution?
Figong
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Agreed, AN that exists, put in a 94:6 mix would still only produce 50-80% of it's max potential unless it's under perfect circumstances with special wall mods done to the side of the truck.. which did not happen, as they would have had to replace the whole rear to pull it off.
(General disclaimer: Anything chemistry or formula related to explosives that I post at any given point in time is purely for educational purposes only, should you be foolish enough to brew or concoct something you do not understand and you kill yourself, a loved one, or your family pet.. it's purely on you.) Figured a disclaimer is in order before we see something on the news about someone finding this thread, testing the 'max potential' and wiping out their house.
Figong
Well-Known Member
Depends, is this a 'general possession/ownership' question, or are you using it to defend yourself?
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
good job on parroting alex jones.*
that's almost an improvement from aping rawn pawl.
echelon1k1
New Member
No, you've got a leader that can't lead by example. That’s a fact, not an observation.
Because the premise of your argument is lacking, you've jumped hook, line & sinker onto my Obama bait. Fuck me you people just need the slightest whiff of his arsehole and you jump in whole-heartedly....
This is not about POTUS, I merely pointed out a flaw in the way his administration have conducted themselves over the last 4 years.
The issue here is with all your ignorant diatribes inferring "THINK OF THE CHILDREN".
Where you up in arms when;
- The US sent its children half way across the world to invade countries that posed no threat
- Bombed the people of Iraq, Af/Pak, Somalia, Yemen etc
- Propped up and funded the very jihadists we were fighting against
- Beslan school massacre
Why do you think american children are somehow immune or exempt from the killings?
And who the fuck do you think you are inferring law abiding gun owners are somehow responsibe for the deaths of children, gunned down by whackjobs?
edit - what are your views on military personal? just mindless killers...?
If it isn't in the constitution then the federal government has no authority over it, it says so right in the constitution. Where have you been all your life?
Not when some dude on meth busts into my home, right about then the gun has infinite value compared to the vehicle.
NLXSK1
Well-Known Member
To a drowning man, air is worth more than anything...
lifegoesonbrah
Well-Known Member
What is the inner most diameter of an octagon?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Figong
Well-Known Member
Agreed, without question.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I didn't go far enough to see who said it, but someone raised a fascinating argument about the value of cars. The question was "how many lives did they save?"
I suggest that for both guns and cars, the answer is "many" and difficult to tabulate.
The difficulty inherent in counting saves (near misses if you look at it from the negative side) makes valuation difficult.
The other difference is the absence of a ratchet built into policy. Gun rights only go one way. If a car law is shown to have practical difficulties, it can be repealed without much ado. The same has not proven true for gun laws. No nation that has imposed severe gun restrictions has ever rescinded them.
My belief is that it is about power and the nature of government to concentrate it and not distribute it. Cars confer a sort of power, but not the sort that can threaten an unpopular régime. Thus there's "nothing in it" for the centralizers to issue restrictive laws on owning or using cars. Restricting guns is politically cheap because gun owners, even hunters, are a much smaller tax source than drivers and registrants of vehicles. cn
Doer
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What you don't understand is that prohibition leads to underground economy. It has been tried, as you well know.
The latest example is the crack down on tobacco. Every single State found there is a limit before the underground imports flood in from Canada and Mexico. You can only regulate it so much. Once you prohibit something, pot heads, we know what happens.
Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms, Ganja
If we can't buy it, we can make it, steal it, trade it with our friends. Think about it, if we can import tons of weight of cannabis, we can get in tons of anti-aircraft, field arty, etc. France will help us. We can get AK-47s and ammo by the tons if it comes to that. Many are stockpiling already. You droids, seriously do not know what you are fucking with here. In asymmetrical warfare, the asymmetries always win, especially with the French nuke boats on patrol.
You can only legislate so far until we start to ignore you. And you asking about law-abiding as if that was set in stone. I know you are not law abiding. So, get over it. It's sophistry. What is law abiding gets changed by elected idiots among us. It happens daily.
So, all of your muling about law abiding just show you have swallowed the Agenda and are trying to rub it into our gullets.
Doer
Well-Known Member
I'm so glad that you don't run the show. I can tell that you are arbitrary and have already closed your mind, and eyes and just call us gun nuts.
So, we just call you numb-nuts.
canndo
Well-Known Member
No? what exactly does it take? Is a tyrant someone who enforces dangerous conditions in mines, blackballing the miners if they quit or complain? is that a tryanical rule? how about a company that settles in on a small community and forces all of the other shops out, only to raise their rates when they are gone - is that tyrannical? Feeding you pink slime without telling you? poisoning the waterways with not a word and then denying they have done so in the face of cancer clusters - those can't be judged as tyrannical? Where do your guns take you in the face of this sort of activity?
canndo
Well-Known Member
Nope, but they get most of us to work every day, something that a gun rarely manages to accomplish unless you are a car jacker.