Pete Rose

[hornedfrog2000]

My dad loves the shit out of him for being a hustler. I know when I played I ran out every ball whether I thought I would be out or not, not just ran, but sprinted. I normally was out, but every once in a while somebody fucked up and I was safe or got to advance further than I should have. I remember playing right field and sprinting to backup the 1st baseman every damn time. I sometimes got the ball and got to make a play because kids suck at throwing. I respect playing hard. I would get mad at the other kids for being all about themselves when I played. Throwing fucking temper tantrums when they struck out, or whatever. If everyone played like pete running hard they might increase their batting average .15 seriously. You could make someone a .260 player a .275 player if they sprinted every time. I'm a huge Yankee Fan and it drives me nuts that guys like Cano can't fucking sprint down to first at least.

 

[Total Head]

My dad loves the shit out of him for being a hustler. I know when I played I ran out every ball whether I thought I would be out or not, not just ran, but sprinted. I normally was out, but every once in a while somebody fucked up and I was safe or got to advance further than I should have. I remember playing right field and sprinting to backup the 1st baseman every damn time. I sometimes got the ball and got to make a play because kids suck at throwing. I respect playing hard. I would get mad at the other kids for being all about themselves when I played. Throwing fucking temper tantrums when they struck out, or whatever. If everyone played like pete running hard they might increase their batting average .15 seriously. You could make someone a .260 player a .275 player if they sprinted every time. I'm a huge Yankee Fan and it drives me nuts that guys like Cano can't fucking sprint down to first at least.

the lack of hustle drives me nuts. the golden age is long gone. multimillion dollar contracts basically guarantee that people follow the money. hardly anyone plays for the love of the game any more and it shows.

 

[hornedfrog2000]

the lack of hustle drives me nuts. the golden age is long gone. multimillion dollar contracts basically guarantee that people follow the money. hardly anyone plays for the love of the game any more and it shows.

Nothing pisses me off more than watching a guy making, oh I don't know, $100,000 for that game jogging down to first thinking he's out and then they see the fielder bobble the ball and THEN they decide to run. If they ran in the first place they would have made it. The funny thing is a fielder is going to bobble the ball probably one in (idk pull a number out my ass) one in 80 plat appearances, so they could probably get on base 10 more times in a year if they just fucking RAN.

I mean shit, a lot of these guys are set for life with mediocre stats. I can't believe BJ Upton just signed for 75 million. Now that he is guaranteed his money I hope to god works hard with his brother.

 

[mysunnyboy]

horned i like you despite being a yankees fan
BJ was too expensive for us to keep, i think we got all there is out of him

 

[BleedsGreen]

Pete should have gotten in this year, the lifelong ban is BS. Although so is the writers electing HOF members. I think the HOF players should have the only votes. They didn't vote anyone in this year which is really sad. Cooperstown relies on that weekend for their survival. I would best some of those shops make over 20% of their yearly income that weekend.

 

[mysunnyboy]

Pete should have gotten in this year, the lifelong ban is BS. Although so is the writers electing HOF members. I think the HOF players should have the only votes. They didn't vote anyone in this year which is really sad. Cooperstown relies on that weekend for their survival. I would best some of those shops make over 20% of their yearly income that weekend.

they didn't vote anyone in this year?!

 

[BleedsGreen]

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	Batting Stats	Pitching Stats
Rk		YoB	Votes	%vote	HOFm	HOFs	Yrs	WAR	WAR7	JAWS	Jpos	G	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	SB	BB	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	W	L	ERA	ERA+	WHIP	G	GS	SV	IP	H	HR	BB	SO	Pos Summary
1	Craig Biggio	1st	388	68.2%	169	57	20	62.1	40.6	51.3	54.4	2850	10876	1844	3060	291	1175	414	1160	.281	.363	.433	.796	112														*4*287/D9
2	Jack Morris	14th	385	67.7%	122	39	18	39.3	30.8	35.1	57.9	568	1	4	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000	-100	254	186	3.90	105	1.296	549	527	0	3824.0	3567	389	1390	2478	*1/D
3	Jeff Bagwell	3rd	339	59.6%	150	59	15	76.7	46.7	61.7	51.5	2150	7797	1517	2314	449	1529	202	1401	.297	.408	.540	.948	149														*3/D9
4	Mike Piazza	1st	329	57.8%	207	62	16	56.1	40.7	48.4	40.7	1912	6911	1048	2127	427	1335	17	759	.308	.377	.545	.922	143														*2D3
5	Tim Raines	6th	297	52.2%	90	47	23	66.2	41.1	53.7	50.7	2502	8872	1571	2605	170	980	808	1330	.294	.385	.425	.810	123														*78D4/9
6	Lee Smith	11th	272	47.8%	135	13	18	27.6	19.7	23.7	32.3	1023	64	2	3	1	2	0	3	.047	.090	.094	.183	-50	71	92	3.03	132	1.256	1022	6	478	1289.1	1133	89	486	1251	*1
7	Curt Schilling	1st	221	38.8%	171	46	20	76.1	46.7	61.4	57.9	571	773	39	117	0	29	1	25	.151	.178	.171	.348	-9	216	146	3.46	127	1.137	569	436	22	3261.0	2998	347	711	3116	*1
8	Roger Clemens	1st	214	37.6%	332	73	24	133.9	64.0	99.0	57.9	709	179	5	31	0	12	0	13	.173	.236	.207	.443	17	354	184	3.12	143	1.173	709	707	0	4916.2	4185	363	1580	4672	*1
9	Barry Bonds	1st	206	36.2%	340	76	22	158.1	71.1	114.6	50.7	2986	9847	2227	2935	762	1996	514	2558	.298	.444	.607	1.051	182														*78D/9
10	Edgar Martinez	4th	204	35.9%	132	50	18	64.4	41.8	53.1	53.4	2055	7213	1219	2247	309	1261	49	1283	.312	.418	.515	.933	147														*D*5/3
11	Alan Trammell	12th	191	33.6%	118	40	20	67.1	43.3	55.2	52.1	2293	8288	1231	2365	185	1003	236	850	.285	.352	.415	.767	110														*6D5/478
12	Larry Walker	3rd	123	21.6%	148	58	17	69.7	43.1	56.4	55.4	1988	6907	1355	2160	383	1311	230	913	.313	.400	.565	.965	141														*9387/D45
13	Fred McGriff	4th	118	20.7%	100	48	19	48.2	33.2	40.7	51.5	2460	8757	1349	2490	493	1550	72	1305	.284	.377	.509	.886	134														*3D
14	X-Dale Murphy	15th	106	18.6%	116	34	18	42.6	39.0	40.8	54.8	2180	7960	1197	2111	398	1266	161	986	.265	.346	.469	.815	121														*8*9372
15	Mark McGwire	7th	96	16.9%	170	42	16	58.7	40.1	49.4	51.5	1874	6187	1167	1626	583	1414	12	1317	.263	.394	.588	.982	163														*3D/59
16	Don Mattingly	13th	75	13.2%	134	34	14	39.8	34.4	37.1	51.5	1785	7003	1007	2153	222	1099	14	588	.307	.358	.471	.830	127														*3D97/548
17	Sammy Sosa	1st	71	12.5%	202	52	18	54.8	42.2	48.5	55.4	2354	8813	1475	2408	609	1667	234	929	.273	.344	.534	.878	128														*98D/7
18	Rafael Palmeiro	3rd	50	8.8%	178	57	20	66.1	36.6	51.3	51.5	2831	10472	1663	3020	569	1835	97	1353	.288	.371	.515	.885	132														*3*D7/98
19	X-Bernie Williams	2nd	19	3.3%	134	48	16	45.9	35.7	40.8	54.8	2076	7869	1366	2336	287	1257	147	1069	.297	.381	.477	.858	125														*8D9/7
20	X-Kenny Lofton	1st	18	3.2%	91	42	17	64.9	42.0	53.5	54.8	2103	8120	1528	2428	130	781	622	945	.299	.372	.423	.794	107														*87/D9
21	X-Sandy Alomar	1st	16	2.8%	48	24	20	11.6	11.8	11.7	40.7	1377	4530	520	1236	112	588	25	212	.273	.309	.406	.716	86														*2/D3
22	X-Julio Franco	1st	6	1.1%	58	42	23	39.7	29.1	34.4	54.4	2527	8677	1285	2586	173	1194	281	917	.298	.365	.417	.782	111														*6*4*3*D/579
23	X-David Wells	1st	5	0.9%	88	40	21	49.2	29.0	39.1	57.9	660	178	8	23	0	5	0	3	.129	.148	.140	.289	-22	239	157	4.13	108	1.266	660	489	13	3439.0	3635	407	719	2201	*1
24	X-Steve Finley	1st	4	0.7%	72	36	19	40.4	30.4	35.4	54.8	2583	9397	1443	2548	304	1167	320	844	.271	.332	.442	.775	104	0	0	0.00		1.000	1	0	0	1.0	0	0	1	0	*897/D1
25	X-Shawn Green	1st	2	0.4%	62	33	15	31.4	29.5	30.4	55.4	1951	7082	1129	2003	328	1070	162	744	.283	.355	.494	.850	120														*9387D
26	X-Aaron Sele	1st	1	0.2%	21	15	15	17.5	17.6	17.5	57.9	404	58	5	9	0	1	0	3	.155	.197	.190	.386	1	148	112	4.61	100	1.491	404	352	0	2153.0	2413	225	798	1407	*1
27	X-Roberto Hernandez	1st	0	0.0%	93	7	17	17.2	16.7	16.9	32.3	1010	2	0	1	0	0	0	0	.500	.500	.500	1.000	166	67	71	3.45	131	1.367	1010	3	326	1071.1	1002	96	462	945	*1
28	X-Ryan Klesko	1st	0	0.0%	24	26	16	24.6	20.4	22.5	51.5	1736	5611	874	1564	278	987	91	817	.279	.370	.500	.870	128														*7*39/D
29	X-Todd Walker	1st	0	0.0%	10	22	12	8.3	8.9	8.6	54.4	1288	4554	647	1316	107	545	66	421	.289	.348	.435	.783	98														*453D/76
30	X-Rondell White	1st	0	0.0%	6	17	15	25.5	19.9	22.7	54.8	1474	5357	756	1519	198	768	94	360	.284	.336	.462	.799	108														*7*8D
31	X-Jose Mesa	1st	0	0.0%	113	1	19	9.6	12.1	10.8	32.3	1023	2	1	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.333	.000	.333	-3	80	109	4.36	100	1.472	1022	95	321	1548.2	1629	151	651	1038	*1
32	X-Woody Williams	1st	0	0.0%	17	14	15	28.1	20.2	24.2	57.9	443	540	52	105	4	43	1	17	.194	.222	.267	.489	29	132	116	4.19	103	1.321	424	330	0	2216.1	2217	309	711	1480	*1
33	X-Mike Stanton	1st	0	0.0%	66	7	19	13.3	14.3	13.8	32.3	1178	24	3	8	0	3	0	1	.333	.360	.375	.735	96	68	63	3.92	112	1.352	1178	1	84	1114.0	1086	93	420	895	*1
34	X-Jeff Cirillo	1st	0	0.0%	37	23	14	32.0	28.7	30.3	53.4	1617	5396	800	1598	112	727	63	563	.296	.366	.430	.796	102	0	0	0.00		2.000	1	0	0	1.0	0	0	2	1	*534D/671
35	X-Jeff Conine	1st	0	0.0%	22	23	17	16.2	15.2	15.7	50.7	2024	6957	870	1982	214	1071	54	671	.285	.347	.443	.789	107														*3*79D5
36	X-Reggie Sanders	1st	0	0.0%	18	27	17	36.7	25.2	30.9	55.4	1777	6241	1037	1666	305	983	304	674	.267	.343	.487	.830	115														*9*78/D
37	X-Royce Clayton	1st	0	0.0%	24	23	17	16.4	15.5	15.9	52.1	2108	7379	935	1904	110	723	231	565	.258	.312	.367	.679	78

Nope no one elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame this year, Sad!

 

[mysunnyboy]

remove mcgwire, sosa, clemens, bonds etc if rose ain't on there

 

[hornedfrog2000]

Pete should have gotten in this year, the lifelong ban is BS. Although so is the writers electing HOF members. I think the HOF players should have the only votes. They didn't vote anyone in this year which is really sad. Cooperstown relies on that weekend for their survival. I would best some of those shops make over 20% of their yearly income that weekend.

MLB turned a blind eye to steroids, and now they have a real big damn mess on their hands. I think they will end up letting in all these guys. I'm not sure how people can cherry pick who was on roids, and who wasn't. A lot of people think that Piazza was, and Bagwell but how can you just guess that? I honestly think most players back then probably were. I wouldn't be surprised by any name at this point, except maybe like Thome, and Thomas. They just had the size to sustain their power, but idk... It's funny how blind people are to the fact that pretty much everyone in the NFL is doing roids, and HGH. I'm sure they juice their brains out in the offseason, and then rock HGH all season long. It helps you heal faster from injury. I would bet a million bucks ray Lewis just took a shit load of HGH after separating his tricep from his bone. All speculation, but MLB is a lot more scrict right now than the NFL. Next season MLB starts IN SEASON HGH testing. Expect guys to be getting hurt left and right...

 

[longman]

I know it's unfair and arbitrary but I'm glad the roiders aren't getting in. Granted somebody you never suspected may be using (Raffy Palmero anybody?) but I'm still glad Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, et al are left out. Good job BBWAA.

 

[Sand4x105]

Here's something... they all are in the Museum upstairs from the Hall... What is a bronze bust downstairs, I doubt Pete cares about the Hall. He has so much stuff upstairs, and really that's where the best part of the hall is, I spent 10 hours + looking upstairs at all the cool sheiot from years gone by... I spent 10 minutes downstairs in the "Hall"...
...
I now beleive that pro sports, all sports, if you are getting paid, do what ever it is, to you, for you to be better...and stay healthy... you're a pro, stay on top, be the best, anything is legal... It's your life...IDK if Lance cheated, or if Barry took roids, I assume he did... I didn't like Bond's tude, but he put on a show... I'm in it for the show me...

 

[mysunnyboy]

pete cares about the hall

 

[longman]

Pete does care. And he will get in - he's banned for life so he'll get in posthumously.

 

[mysunnyboy]

Pete does care. And he will get in - he's banned for life so he'll get in posthumously.

oh shit i don't think he would like that

 

[longman]

I'm sure it's not the outcome he's looking for but I'm willing to bet he gets voted in as soon as it happens.