Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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PJ Diaz

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elkukupanda said:
Sir, you won already... just... please don't hurt the kids...
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Didn't you say you were leaving twice now? Why are you still here. My suggestion for you is this: go out right now and buy some greencure and spray your plants tonight. It will help you a lot three weeks from now. It's good advice, take it or leave it, but please go do something else now, umkay?
 
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elkukupanda

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PJ Diaz said:
Didn't you say you were leaving twice now? Why are you still here. My suggestion for you is this: go out right now and buy some greencure and spray your plants tonight. It will help you a lot three weeks from now. It's good advice, take it or leave it, but please go do something else now, umkay?
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ahahahahah... poor kids... oh well...
 
Bud Brewer

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It like a bad movie playing over and over, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. I don't know how many times I've seen UB post this and a few more but you all keep trolling adding little picking one sentence without the link to the many studies I posted with links but no-one will take the time to see it works for many plants not just pot but science has no place here just inexperience in this topic.
 
PJ Diaz

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Bud Brewer said:
It like a bad movie playing over and over, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works, you can't do it but I'm doing it it works. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. Ok I'm leaving unsubbed. I don't know how many times I've seen UB post this and a few more but you all keep trolling adding little picking one sentence without the link to the many studies I posted with links but no-one will take the time to see it works for many plants not just pot but science has no place here just inexperience in this topic.
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It's pure entertainment. Pack the bong, make some popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the ride.
 
Uncle Ben

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PJ Diaz said:
I think if anything the stomata were simply being blocked by the top leaf, which is why I feel like your co2 thoughts are a good point. The problem however is that you can only take that idea so far.. I mean, let's say I pumped my tent to the max c02 level (without being toxic to my plants), the fact remains that the top leaf would still be covering the stomata of the bottom leaf.
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Yes, you are an idiot. (And no one caught it but me.)

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PJ Diaz

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Uncle Ben said:
PJ Diaz said:
I think if anything the stomata were simply being blocked by the top leaf, which is why I feel like your co2 thoughts are a good point. The problem however is that you can only take that idea so far.. I mean, let's say I pumped my tent to the max c02 level (without being toxic to my plants), the fact remains that the top leaf would still be covering the stomata of the bottom leaf.
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Yes, you are an idiot. (And no one caught it but me.)

Uncle Ben
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I'm not an idiot, simply a stoner.
 
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I don't even read whatever he have to say about plants... He is a winner... The trooling and the god like figure to his sons have more value. Anyways, UB... Is 13c too low? I been reading that at 13c is too cold or (not optimal temp at night ). I got the settings ready for adjustment... What's the command?
 
PJ Diaz

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It's cool. I said something dumb in a stoned coffee daze. One point for Uncle Ben. Well done brother. So lest see, that's one point for UB vs how many for PJ? Pretty sure I'm still in the lead in the debunking dumb explanations area of things.
 
Uncle Ben

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elkukupanda said:
I don't even read whatever he have to say about plants... He is a winner... The trooling and the god like figure to his sons have more value. Anyways, UB... Is 13c too low? I been reading that at 13c is too cold or (not optimal temp at night ). I got the settings ready for adjustment... What's the command?
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It's not too low (for night temps) as long as you understand that temps dictate growth rate, all things aside. The lower the day/night temps are, the slower the plant will develop. And herein lies the fallacy, what's not told, when seedbanks claim one of their mutts will finish within a certain time frame. Of course they are telling the consumer what they want to hear in order to make a fast buck.

I'm all about tweeks, to the Nth degree and one of those is optimizing the garden's temperature. 30/17C, day/night, is just about right for optimum growth rates. A bit lower during flowering which follows a natural plant cycle in nature. And you know me, I'm all about doing what mama natur tells me do.

UB
 
PJ Diaz

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elkukupanda said:
I don't even read whatever he have to say about plants... He is a winner... The trooling and the god like figure to his sons have more value. Anyways, UB... Is 13c too low? I been reading that at 13c is too cold or (not optimal temp at night ). I got the settings ready for adjustment... What's the command?
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Is that your day or night temp? I assume night. What's daytime? The difference between the two is important.
 
Uncle Ben

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PJ Diaz said:
It's cool. I said something dumb in a stoned coffee daze. One point for Uncle Ben. Well done brother. So lest see, that's one point for UB vs how many for PJ? Pretty sure I'm still in the lead in the debunking dumb explanations area of things.
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You wouldn't know the difference between a stomate and your pie hole if your collection of books depended on it.

For the record.......they're all located below.
 
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elkukupanda

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Uncle Ben said:
It's not too low as long as you understand that temps dictate growth rate, all things aside. The lower day/night temps, the slower the plant will develop. And herein lies the fallacy, what's not told, when seedbanks claim one of their mutts will finish within a certain time frame. Of course they are telling the consumer what they want to hear in order to make a fast buck.

I'm all about tweeks, to the Nth degree and one of those is optimizing the garden's temperature. 30/17C, day/night, is just about right for optimum growth rates. A bit lower during flowering which follows a natural plant cycle in nature. And you know me, I'm all about doing what mama natur tells me do.

UB
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Ok, I'm make it 30/16... I was liking that rate... Now.. Just for the notes... The water uptake by the plant have also decreased considerably... Maybe from 4days in flowering (5 gal bucket) to 5-6 days... I was worrying about roots problems and diseases but I read somewhere as temp go lower does problems also go away since at those cold temps nothing can really develop as well down there... Is this correct?
 
PJ Diaz

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Uncle Ben said:
PJ Diaz said:
It's cool. I said something dumb in a stoned coffee daze. One point for Uncle Ben. Well done brother. So lest see, that's one point for UB vs how many for PJ? Pretty sure I'm still in the lead in the debunking dumb explanations area of things.
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You wouldn't know the difference between a stomate and your pie hole if your collection of books depended on it.

For the record.......they're below located below.
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I'm flattered by how much of your energy you've given me brother. I'm over here relishing in it while I bone my awesome defoil harvest. What can I say? Whatever I'm doing these days my weed us just getting bigger and better. You can't change that, so I live you too brother. Next time I'm in the Midwest I'll come by and smoke you out brother.
 
PJ Diaz

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I know you guys don't care what I have to say, but 30 C seems too high to me. That day to night differential seems too wide as well. I prefer a 15 - 20 degree F differential with temps topping out at 80 F max.
 
Uncle Ben

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elkukupanda said:
Ok, I'm make it 30/16... I was liking that rate... Now.. Just for the notes... The water uptake by the plant have also decreased considerably... Maybe from 4days in flowering (5 gal bucket) to 5-6 days... I was worrying about roots problems and diseases but I read somewhere as temp go lower does problems also go away since at those cold temps nothing can really develop as well down there... Is this correct?
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Not sure where you're going with this. All pathogens reproduce, grow and eventually die at different temps and conditions. If you have root rot, there's not much you can do to stop it.

If you have a healthy, big, robust root system, there is not much you can do to over water it and induce root rot.

Starting from the top to bottom of a plant.... water movement throughout a plant is a function of leaf transpiration which induces negative water turgor (lower tissue water pressure) which thru the action of negative pressure and capillary action in the xylem tissues causes a draw across the root's epidermal gradient....bottom to top. Less foliage, lower temps results in more risk for root decline and then plant decline.

UB
 
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