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robert030188

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Yep bakatare is right...the recomended range is 6.5-6.8, magnese (Mn) and iron (Fe) are pretty much insignificant for plants so your fine...only reason i say lower it is because you're on the thresh hold of lock out
 

jinxtme

Member
bmeat I nor anyone else said that i was keeping the male to breed, you obviously do not read, I am keeping it to learn about things, maybe you should try it sometime. Anyway I just found another boy, but got pics of what I think is a girl:
these are the boy i think, from looking at the top in the flower area
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these are the ones that i think is a girl, and hopefully, as I took a clone from her(?)
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robert030188

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Yes you are correct, looks like pollen sacks in pic #2. The other is female for sure, i'd let it get a lil bigger before flowering though.
 

Bakatare666

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bmeat I nor anyone else said that i was keeping the male to breed, you obviously do not read, I am keeping it to learn about things, maybe you should try it sometime. Anyway I just found another boy, but got pics of what I think is a girl:
these are the boy i think, from looking at the top in the flower area
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these are the ones that i think is a girl, and hopefully, as I took a clone from her(?)
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I posted these for somebody else today, hopefully they'll help.closeupofmale_zpsc3d6c7a7.jpgcloseupoffemale_zps704af451.jpg
 

bmeat

New Member
it would raw..thats why i suggested mixing them lemon with the water, and then testing the solution before watering. you should think about thoroughly reading the posts instead of telling me to read

and robert did suggest to keep the males: "Keep the boy in case you want to try some breeding for seeds"

and fertilizer will lower ph, it wont raise it bakatare?
 

Bakatare666

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I've heard of people using Lemon juice, but myself, I use White Distilled Vinegar, about a capful from the Heinz Vinegar bottle per liter brings my water down almost a full point.
 

jinxtme

Member
My apologies Miss Jinx:wink:
Nice to see another lady here.
I thought we had meat turned around for a quick minute there, but it appears he is already sliding back to his old ways.
lmao its totally cool, i play alot in "male" environments, so im used to it,
and the bmeat guy,is wanting to off himself, over what, internet drama that it seems like he brings on himself...?
Hmm, I dont find anyone that says things like that funny at all. Ive had to put alot of people in the ground that went that route, and Im NOT Impressed
(anyone that knows me in the real world knows that is my ultimate insult)
so im putting the boys to the side, probably harvest them for future seeds in case this is a batch that I decide to reproduce, can you buy ph up / down at a regular store? also, where could I find a good cloning solution? i have heard that you can use corn syrup, which i used for my first and only one from the female that Robert identified for me <3, its 8 days in the cup, and is developing new growth, so im hoping that it takes, trying my luck since I have been lucky on this first experience, thus far.
 

Bakatare666

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fertilizer will lower ph, it wont raise it bakatare?
Yes, you are correct with that thought.
I did not say it wouldn't.
My point however, is not to go throwing nutes at it when the PH is out of whack.
Nutes are designed to feed the plant, not adjust PH.
If she has PH so high the plants can't absorb what nutes may be there already and tosses more in the pot, then when the PH comes down, what is going to happen? BURN.
 

bmeat

New Member
Yes, you are correct with that thought.
I did not say it wouldn't.
My point however, is not to go throwing nutes at it when the PH is out of whack.
Nutes are designed to feed the plant, not adjust PH.
If she has PH so high the plants can't absorb what nutes may be there already and tosses more in the pot, then when the PH comes down, what is going to happen? BURN.
ahhh..i got you. i also suggested white vinegar. lemon would be better though, becuase the ph wont bounce back as fast as it does from vinegar. on top of that, lemon breaks down rocks and minerals in the soil so the plant can absorb them.
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
lmao its totally cool, i play alot in "male" environments, so im used to it,
and the bmeat guy,is wanting to off himself, over what, internet drama that it seems like he brings on himself...?
Hmm, I dont find anyone that says things like that funny at all. Ive had to put alot of people in the ground that went that route, and Im NOT Impressed
(anyone that knows me in the real world knows that is my ultimate insult)
so im putting the boys to the side, probably harvest them for future seeds in case this is a batch that I decide to reproduce, can you buy ph up / down at a regular store? also, where could I find a good cloning solution? i have heard that you can use corn syrup, which i used for my first and only one from the female that Robert identified for me <3, its 8 days in the cup, and is developing new growth, so im hoping that it takes, trying my luck since I have been lucky on this first experience, thus far.
Check out this thread, it will make your head hurt, but it'll keep you amused for a while, and you'll understand more about the words here.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/608593-how-much-longer.html
This is amusing as well.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/612458-am-i-ready-harvest-first.html
 

BCBuddy420

Well-Known Member
lmao its totally cool, i play alot in "male" environments, so im used to it,
and the bmeat guy,is wanting to off himself, over what, internet drama that it seems like he brings on himself...?
Hmm, I dont find anyone that says things like that funny at all. Ive had to put alot of people in the ground that went that route, and Im NOT Impressed
(anyone that knows me in the real world knows that is my ultimate insult)
so im putting the boys to the side, probably harvest them for future seeds in case this is a batch that I decide to reproduce, can you buy ph up / down at a regular store? also, where could I find a good cloning solution? i have heard that you can use corn syrup, which i used for my first and only one from the female that Robert identified for me <3, its 8 days in the cup, and is developing new growth, so im hoping that it takes, trying my luck since I have been lucky on this first experience, thus far.
Heya Jinx, I have to chime in here. I'm pretty sure you said you weren't breeding and I'm taking it you want some viable smoke off of those females right? Well there's a good chance that just having that male in the garage is going to pollinate your females. Pollen will find a way somehow whether it's a piece of clothing and a visit to both rooms in one day, etc...trust me it's really easy for this to happen. I just want you to be fairly warned k? Oh and sometimes it takes a little while to show sex so just look for the white hairs, the pollen sacs cannot be confused for pistils once the hairs are pronounced. Do you have a local hydroponic store around? Ph up/down is cheap and so is rooting powder/gel. Never clone after 12/12 it could be a stunted process if so.
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
lemon breaks down rocks and minerals in the soil so the plant can absorb them.
Dude, you're doing it again.
First, rocks in the soil? From where?
And, how would lemon juice 'break down' rocks?
I'm trying to be patient, but you're making my head hurt.
I'm off for a beverage.
 

bmeat

New Member
"FertilizersMetal chelate compounds are common components of fertilizers to provide micronutrients. These micronutrients (manganese, iron, zinc, copper - are required for the overall health of the plants. Most fertilizers contain phosphate salts that, in the absence of chelating agents, typically convert these metal ions into insoluble solids that are of no nutritional value to the plants. EDTA is the typical chelating agent for this purpose.[SUP][13][/SUP]
"
lemon naturally chelates metals or minerals aka micro nutrients.

and i didnt say i want to off myself cause of the thread..i want to off myself becuase my body is fucked up and i get real down about it.

toss the males.
 

jinxtme

Member
it would raw..thats why i suggested mixing them lemon with the water, and then testing the solution before watering. you should think about thoroughly reading the posts instead of telling me to read

and robert did suggest to keep the males: "Keep the boy in case you want to try some breeding for seeds"

and fertilizer will lower ph, it wont raise it bakatare?
hey guy, I did read it, but anytime that you add a substance, even dilluted, it will deliver said substance, in this case, lemon juice, no matter how small, and if I am not having acid issues, say, low, even if this is a factor that we arent discussing, Im not going to just take ANYONES word and do it, and harm my plants. If there is an alternative, Im going to check it out. If you notice, all of my posts are somewhat educated guesses or theories, like the lemon juice raising the acid level. You on the other hand, are making alot of assumptions without alot of backup. I guess we are all internet g's.
Please stop making me out you, its making me look like a bitch, and I am just on here for the reason that it exists, not to have to defend myself against someone who is posting in a newbie room, who may or may not have a clue but nonetheless advising things that dont make sense.
Thanks, the Jinx
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
"FertilizersMetal chelate compounds are common components of fertilizers to provide micronutrients. These micronutrients (manganese, iron, zinc, copper - are required for the overall health of the plants. Most fertilizers contain phosphate salts that, in the absence of chelating agents, typically convert these metal ions into insoluble solids that are of no nutritional value to the plants. EDTA is the typical chelating agent for this purpose.[SUP][13][/SUP]
"
lemon naturally chelates metals or minerals aka micro nutrients.

and i didnt say i want to off myself cause of the thread..i want to off myself becuase i fucked my body up and i get real down about it.

toss the males.
Oh for FUCKS SAKE the copy paste again
That says nothing about fucking rocks
 

bmeat

New Member
Oh for FUCKS SAKE the copy paste again
That says nothing about fucking rocks
you didnt take my word for it, so i copy and pasted literature. why does that get you so upset? i cant just keep saying it myself, cause you wont believe me.

rocks are minerals. there are tiny rocks in all soils.

i should have some good home grown in a month or so
 
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