I have seen the light!

[TicKle]

ok, just like ALL my fan leaves untill harvest, i have seen the light, and will no-longer 'be puppeteered' by these lame ass forum's, the only thread i really enjoy now is the UK growers thread, mainly because it's like a little community, the rest of RIU just seems to be people over ferting and taking fan-leaf's, or a debate wether either is right or wrong.

All these forum's seem to do is promote a market for bullshit snake oils and ways to butcher a plant, after going to my nute supply i realised i had 80 quid worth of NPK, and them same NPK value's could be reached going to local gardening centre and paying 8 quid for same supply of fert's.

So why the rant on here then?

Because it's these damn forums that i sat and read for hours on end that led me to buy most the stuff i have, and have myself 'promoted' as i was dumb enough to believe they were working because they were 'cannabis specific' this is bullshit, and i aint gunna take it no more, so keep buying your over-priced, watered down piss, and keep telling yourself that defoliation is the way to go, hell, piss on your plants, sure i seen that debated here also...GL HF.

Flame on!

 

[Uncle Ben]

ok, just like ALL my fan leaves untill harvest, i have seen the light, and will no-longer 'be puppeteered' by these lame ass forum's, the only thread i really enjoy now is the UK growers thread, mainly because it's like a little community, the rest of RIU just seems to be people over ferting and taking fan-leaf's, or a debate wether either is right or wrong.

All these forum's seem to do is promote a market for bullshit snake oils and ways to butcher a plant, after going to my nute supply i realised i had 80 quid worth of NPK, and them same NPK value's could be reached going to local gardening centre and paying 8 quid for same supply of fert's.

So why the rant on here then?

Because it's these damn forums that i sat and read for hours on end that led me to buy most the stuff i have, and have myself 'promoted' as i was dumb enough to believe they were working because they were 'cannabis specific' this is bullshit, and i aint gunna take it no more, so keep buying your over-priced, watered down piss, and keep telling yourself that defoliation is the way to go, hell, piss on your plants, sure i seen that debated here also...GL HF.

Flame on!

I've been warning guys like you for years. Better late than never.

Good luck,
UB

 

[Xrangex]

I saw the word "snakeoil" and thought of UB lol
and then I read the next post and it's UB of course

 

[cocakola]

TicKle i Completely agree with you , but i'd say we had to learn somehow , sure wish it wasnt at my plants and pockets expense... Good to know we are taking in the BS and then throwing it right back where it belongs..

 

[Xrangex]

Good to know we are taking in the BS and then throwing it right back where it belongs..

lol, right back where it belongs... on RIU

haha, sorry i'm high and feel quick witted



In all honesty i've found the same thing with my current grow. I topped all plants for 4 main colas (thanks UB) and removed fan leaves covering budsites for 1, cut the fingers in half for 1, and left 1 completely alone. The one left alone is beautiful, and from the looks of it 1-2 weeks more mature than the other 2 (switched 12/12 the same time)
needless to say i'm leaving them be next run.

 

[ProfessorPotSnob]

Glad there was no internet when I began growing .. I would kick myself in the ass for taking advice from strangers online who most times not have no clue to what they speak and preach .. Luckly back then the grow market was nothing and we had to scavenge products and equipment for growing...


I have learnt that for the most part that Cannabis Forums are simply broken records and reruns .. But the amusement is where its at here hahah .. RIU can offer hours of laughs if your skin is thick enough ...

 

[DeeTee]

I too started growing long before the internet or home computers, I grew it the old farmers way, to trim and/or remove fan leaves just for added light is the most stupedest thing I've read here, as well as all those addatives suggested to " boost " output, a plant can only do what it's genetics can do and that's all, my plants are healthy and produce good crops without trying to " push " them. However there are some good advise given here from knowledgable people and it's a great comunity.

 

[gagekko]

Glad there was no internet when I began growing .. I would kick myself in the ass for taking advice from strangers online who most times not have no clue to what they speak and preach .. Luckly back then the grow market was nothing and we had to scavenge products and equipment for growing...


I have learnt that for the most part that Cannabis Forums are simply broken records and reruns .. But the amusement is where its at here hahah .. RIU can offer hours of laughs if your skin is thick enough ...

I too started growing long before the internet or home computers, I grew it the old farmers way, to trim and/or remove fan leaves just for added light is the most stupedest thing I've read here, as well as all those addatives suggested to " boost " output, a plant can only do what it's genetics can do and that's all, my plants are healthy and produce good crops without trying to " push " them. However there are some good advise given here from knowledgable people and it's a great comunity.

So what do you ol' skool guys think about a strait hempy grow based on lucas formula? I'm trying to uncomplicate my life as well.

 

[ProfessorPotSnob]

Hempy buckets can really accelerate growth and the yields are always impressive when done right with high yielding genetics.. Lucas formula , well to be honest I am not a fan of the Lucas Formula .. Might as well just get some Maxi Bloom &Grow and knock it out efficiently ..

 

[gagekko]

Hempy buckets can really accelerate growth and the yields are always impressive when done right with high yielding genetics.. Lucas formula , well to be honest I am not a fan of the Lucas Formula .. Might as well just get some Maxi Bloom &Grow and knock it out efficiently ..

Thank you for replying. I appreciate your help and will give Maxi Bloom/Grow a shot

 

[ilikecheetoes]

ive been running straight maxibloom in flower. very happy.

 

[gagekko]

ive been running straight maxibloom in flower. very happy.

I read on a thread (not this site) that maxibloom is good to run straight from veg until bloom - is this correct?

 

[Uncle Ben]

ive been running straight maxibloom in flower. very happy.

You'll be happy until the point that it induces leaf drop, which it eventually will based on the stated NPK values.

UB

 

[Mr.Marijuana420]

ok, just like ALL my fan leaves untill harvest, i have seen the light, and will no-longer 'be puppeteered' by these lame ass forum's, the only thread i really enjoy now is the UK growers thread, mainly because it's like a little community, the rest of RIU just seems to be people over ferting and taking fan-leaf's, or a debate wether either is right or wrong.

All these forum's seem to do is promote a market for bullshit snake oils and ways to butcher a plant, after going to my nute supply i realised i had 80 quid worth of NPK, and them same NPK value's could be reached going to local gardening centre and paying 8 quid for same supply of fert's.

So why the rant on here then?

Because it's these damn forums that i sat and read for hours on end that led me to buy most the stuff i have, and have myself 'promoted' as i was dumb enough to believe they were working because they were 'cannabis specific' this is bullshit, and i aint gunna take it no more, so keep buying your over-priced, watered down piss, and keep telling yourself that defoliation is the way to go, hell, piss on your plants, sure i seen that debated here also...GL HF.

Flame on!

very true, but u cant blame the site because u believed all these folks,thats kinda your own fault for jumping the gun and listening to the first person that tells u."oh thats such and such. u need this and that", and then your the guy who goes to the hydro store the next day and gets it. And now ur pissed because you didnt use ur head, do a little more reading to get more opinions(because theres plenty of ppl on here that know all that most of that extra shit they try to sell you on is bullshit) and now u have a shelf of expensive ass bottled nutes u dnt need. Cant be mad because u fell for there advertising, and listened to newbs who "swear by the stuff".

 

[gagekko]

You'll be happy until the point that it induces leaf drop, which it eventually will based on the stated NPK values.

UB

So, what does that mean? Are you saying the nitrogen content isn't suffice?

 

[TicKle]

very true, but u cant blame the site because u believed all these folks,thats kinda your own fault for jumping the gun and listening to the first person that tells u."oh thats such and such. u need this and that", and then your the guy who goes to the hydro store the next day and gets it. And now ur pissed because you didnt use ur head, do a little more reading to get more opinions(because theres plenty of ppl on here that know all that most of that extra shit they try to sell you on is bullshit) and now u have a shelf of expensive ass bottled nutes u dnt need. Cant be mad because u fell for there advertising, and listened to newbs who "swear by the stuff".

Fair enough, but the guys at the hydro shop are just as bad, i was a noob, i dont deny this, but now i have 'seen the light' aint like you can really discuss this topic with anyone else other than people who are doing the same thing, ie RIU users.

you have to fail sometime's in life just to learn where you went wrong, i dont really have anyone else to blame, my own ignorance to the subject never helped, i had seen people like UB fighting his corner and read alot of his threads early on, but there were many opinions to consider, so i guess the fact i got there in the end should be all that matters, and it is, so like i said in the rant @ start, this site (and others like it) are responsible for fueling the 'cannabis specific' food market, and until more people like UB and co are listened to, this aint gunna change.

 

[Flaming Pie]

maxi bloom does not have enough nitrogen in it to sustain healthy leaves.

<<< I know from experience.

 

[gagekko]

maxi bloom does not have enough nitrogen in it to sustain healthy leaves.

<<< I know from experience.

So, should Maxibloom be supplemented nitrogen or just avoided all together? I was thinking about a hempy grow with Lucas formula but it was suggested by ProfessorPotSnob that I look into hempy with Maxibloom/gro. I am not doubting professorpotsnob cause maybe he just assumed I knew to supplement N... May I ask your opinion on this?

 

[TicKle]

So, should Maxibloom be supplemented nitrogen or just avoided all together? I was thinking about a hempy grow with Lucas formula but it was suggested by ProfessorPotSnob that I look into hempy with Maxibloom/gro. I am not doubting professorpotsnob cause maybe he just assumed I knew to supplement N... May I ask your opinion on this?

use whatever keeps your leaves green until harvest, and if maxibloom dont, then dont use it

 

[Flaming Pie]

So, should Maxibloom be supplemented nitrogen or just avoided all together? I was thinking about a hempy grow with Lucas formula but it was suggested by ProfessorPotSnob that I look into hempy with Maxibloom/gro. I am not doubting professorpotsnob cause maybe he just assumed I knew to supplement N... May I ask your opinion on this?

If you already have maxibloom AND maxigrow, I would just add maxibloom to the maxigrow regimen you are already using. Not the dosage on the bag tho. add like a 1/4 dosage of bloom to your grow dosage. Then increase slowly.

I HAVE NOT DONE THIS. but if I was to try to use my bloom, that is how i would do it.

I will be using my Garden Tone for flowering on my plant. It worked great on my first grow. I pulled 1.5 oz.