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[UncleBuck]

if all you have against someone argument is a smear campaign from previous argument then you dont have very much

i have plenty more than that, i just like to point out when desertdouche is being a douche. it's part of the appeal of the politics section.

 

[ginjawarrior]

desertdouche is hanging around this thread, being all self aggrandizing, sanctimonious, holier than thou, smug, and senile.he's also the little piggy who's squealing the loudest, along with you, kynes, and the massive advertising campaign on my television box telling me not to worry, GMO is all good and all safe. nothing to worry about here!just thought it was funny.

so your order on the table is an ad hominem

and thats supposed to fly?

 

[ginjawarrior]

what's in an american egg mcmuffin?http://www.livestrong.com/article/559235-diet-detective-whats-really-inside-your-egg-mcmuffin/

a"For the past 40 years, farmers have been manipulating the gene to grow a crop of two-feet-tall dwarfed wheat that contains gliaden protein"

40 years really? i had no idea gmo was about that long

b Azodicarbonamide not gmo

c.High-fructose corn syrup yeah not gmo

im not gonna bother going further untill you tell me what relevance this has to do with gmo food

 

[ginjawarrior]

did you even bother to look at what's in our american egg mcmuffins? they are banned elsewhere.




that's the dilemma i face when i eat! unless you care to tell me where i can get these farm fresh, GMO peas.

you've claimed to do the comparison thought you already knew.....

 

[UncleBuck]

so your order on the table is an ad hominem

and thats supposed to fly?

dude, ad homs are fun.

 

[UncleBuck]

c.High-fructose corn syrup yeah not gmo

that would be correct about 1% of the time. maybe.

 

[UncleBuck]

you've claimed to do the comparison thought you already knew.....

the comparison between my peas or local, non GMO peas and the ones you buy in the store? yeah, i've done that comparison.

i don't have access to farm fresh GMO peas. seems like an oxymoron to me.

 

[ginjawarrior]

that would be correct about 1% of the time. maybe.

and from that we can conclude that hfcs does =/= GMO

and what does that article mentioning them add anything??


look do you want to just troll this thread or are you looking to add something?

 

[UncleBuck]

and from that we can conclude that hfcs does =/= GMO

and what does that article mentioning them add anything??


look do you want to just troll this thread or are you looking to add something?

you've already conceded everything i would like to see conceded: that we don't know what the effects of GMOs can be and that some sort of labeling to help consumers decide on their own is a good idea.

HFCS is almost invariably made from GMO corn, and HFCS is added to basically 90% of everything in the store. the meat in the store is raised on GMO corn and grain. it's pretty tough to avoid, and costly.

only other thing i'd like to see conceded is that we should probably subsidize the local, organic farmers rather than the ubiquitous GMO producers.

 

[ginjawarrior]

the comparison between my peas or local, non GMO peas and the ones you buy in the store? yeah, i've done that comparison.

i don't have access to farm fresh GMO peas. seems like an oxymoron to me.

you compared processed food to farm/garden fresh

and used that to claim gmo is bad without knowing the main component is gmo

can spot the troubles with that conclusion?

 

[echelon1k1]

fuck me your dumb we were talkign about the regulation of "GM foods" in austrailia

i think pointing out the irony would be lost on you... Were you also whinging about ad hominem?

 

[UncleBuck]

you compared processed food to farm/garden fresh

and used that to claim gmo is bad without knowing the main component is gmo

can spot the troubles with that conclusion?

the problem with GMO is that it's not really sold farm fresh. hard to make the comparison IRL.

 

[ginjawarrior]

you've already conceded everything i would like to see conceded: that we don't know what the effects of GMOs can be and that some sort of labeling to help consumers decide on their own is a good idea.

HFCS is almost invariably made from GMO corn, and HFCS is added to basically 90% of everything in the store. the meat in the store is raised on GMO corn and grain. it's pretty tough to avoid, and costly.

only other thing i'd like to see conceded is that we should probably subsidize the local, organic farmers rather than the ubiquitous GMO producers.

i've conceded that its perfectly reasonable for that producers if they wanted to should have a "gmo free" sticker (ill even add a new caveat that it should be government recognised/regulated)

but as i said before i see no reason putting "scare" labelling on food when there is no reason to do so

 

[ginjawarrior]

i think pointing out the irony would be lost on you... Were you also whinging about ad hominem?

the difference is my argument doesnt ride on that

and i am commenting on your comments in this thread as being fucking dumb

 

[UncleBuck]

i've conceded that its perfectly reasonable for that producers if they wanted to should have a "gmo free" sticker (ill even add a new caveat that it should be government recognised/regulated)

but as i said before i see no reason putting "scare" labelling on food when there is no reason to do so

i thought GMOs were perfectly fine. why would you think of it as "scare" labeling?

i don't think of it as scare labeling, i think of it as letting the consumer know what they're purchasing, nothing more and nothing less.

why do you want to punish the small, organic farmer over the large scale, subsidized, GMO farmer? i think we should get more bang for our buck out of those millions of dollars worth of subsidies we send to these mega corps pumping out their GMO cocktails, a sticker telling us that it's GMO doesn't seem like we're asking for much.

 

[ginjawarrior]

the problem with GMO is that it's not really sold farm fresh. hard to make the comparison IRL.

so why are you travelling to that farm rather than buying fresh produce from supermarket then?

if your only compaint amounts to "i dont like processed food" then whats your beef with GMO?

heres a little secret you might not have known processed food can suck even if no GMO is put in it

 

[UncleBuck]

the difference is my argument doesnt ride on that

and i am commenting on your comments in this thread as being fucking dumb

my argument doesn't depend on desertdouche's hypocrisy and squealing, either.*

like i said, it's just an ad hom because ad hom is fun, especially when you're using someone's own words against them!

 

[ginjawarrior]

i thought GMOs were perfectly fine. why would you think of it as "scare" labeling?

i don't think of it as scare labeling, i think of it as letting the consumer know what they're purchasing, nothing more and nothing less.

why do you want to punish the small, organic farmer over the large scale, subsidized, GMO farmer? i think we should get more bang for our buck out of those millions of dollars worth of subsidies we send to these mega corps pumping out their GMO cocktails, a sticker telling us that it's GMO doesn't seem like we're asking for much.

why is the small farmer being punished by labeling his food as better than the rest?

seriously if the market is dying out for "gmo free" food then surely anyone selling it will make a killing? if not please explain why

 

[ginjawarrior]

my argument doesn't depend on desertdouche's hypocrisy and squealing, either.*

like i said, it's just an ad hom because ad hom is fun, especially when you're using someone's own words against them!

it was verification for an argument made outside of this thread months ago was it not?

 

[UncleBuck]

so why are you travelling to that farm rather than buying fresh produce from supermarket then?

if your only compaint amounts to "i dont like processed food" then whats your beef with GMO?

heres a little secret you might not have known processed food can suck even if no GMO is put in it

my beef with GMO is that we don't know its effects yet, number one.

we subsidize them out the ass and their practices are abominable.*

the change to our food supply over the last 50 years has been alarming.

i simply feel better when i avoid those kinds of foods.

the bottom line is that i am voting with my dollars for local, sustainable, humane agriculture and food. i do not want to send one penny more than i must to these bastards that are treating animals inhumanely and the GMO producers they are in bed with.