Harvest Time Determines Type Of High?

joe blow greenthumb

joe blow greenthumb

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Does the time at which you harvest determine the type of high? I've heard that the earlier you harvest, the more of a couchlock bud you get. The later, brings more of a brainy high. Is this true?
 
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bmeat

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no..quite the opposite.

when things go amber, thc is degrading into other substances.

i would harvest when all are cloudy, and you just see the first signs of amber trichs.
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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bmeat said:
no..quite the opposite.

when things go amber, thc is degrading into other substances.

i would harvest when all are cloudy, and you just see the first signs of amber trichs.
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well said... personally, I don't notice that much of a difference between an early or a later harvest... the difference becomes very clear when you're talking sativa versus indica
 
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bmeat

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really!? i was thinking that if you harvest an indica real early it would have same effect as a sativa. i mean, they're the same species genus family etc. just different phenotypes
 
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mtlhaze

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I personally like to raise the lights very high, make them stress a little (For Purple Kush it also brings out a little more colour I find) during flush and see them begin sucking the juice out of the fan leaf fans till they begin to yellow. There is alot of sugar stored in those leaves that should be in the bud.

Also, you should not be seeing any amber colour to the trich of any kind that's totally wack if you do. You messed up somewhere or you left it up way too long, I left them even an extra week since they still looked so plump and fresh to keep draining the sugars out, never saw anything but silver trichs.
 
topfuel29

topfuel29

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joe blow greenthumb said:
Does the time at which you harvest determine the type of high? I've heard that the earlier you harvest, the more of a couchlock bud you get. The later, brings more of a brainy high. Is this true?
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Yes.
When Cannabis is grown for sinsemilla floral production, the cycle is interrupted. Pistillate plants remain unfertilized and begin to produce capitate -stalked trichomes and accumulate resins in a last effort to remain viable. Since capitate- stalked trichomes now predominate, resin and THC production increase. The elevated resin heads appear clear, since fresh resin is still being secreted, often being produced in the cellular head of the trichome. At this time THC acid production is at a peak and CBD acid levels remain stable as the molecules are rapidly converted to THC acids, THC acid synthesis has not been active long enough for a high level of CBN acid to build up from the degradation of THC acid by light and heat. Terpene production is also nearing a peak and the floral clusters are beautifully aromatic. Many cultivators prefer to pick some of their strains during this stage in order to produce marijuana with a clear, cerebral, psychoactive effect. It is believed that, in peak floral clusters, the low levels of CBD and CBN allow the high level of THC to act without their sedative effects. Also, little polymerization of resins has occurred, so aromas and tastes are often less resinous and tar like than at later stages. Many strains, if they are harvested in the peak floral stage, lack the completely developed aroma, taste and psychoactive level that appear after curing. Cultivators wait longer for the resins to mature if a different taste and psychoactive effect is desired.
This is the point of optimum harvest for some strains, since most additional calyx growth has ceased. However, a subsequent flush of new calyx growth may occur and the plant continue ripening into the late floral stage.
(Marijuana Botany)
 
bud nugbong

bud nugbong

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yes just the opposite of the OP, earlier would be a more "uplifting" high, while a late harvest with amber trichs are for a more relaxing sleepy effect.
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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I don't want to add to the confusion...
But I will....
This is a perfect Newbie thread.... OP asks question that is what he's heard...
Others offer opinion, which seems counter true, and opinion, stated as fact, because it is what they have heard [or read], and just adds to confusion...
Most experience growers say, Strain, and genetics will determine "High"
Now, in the past, I have harvested my plants, I'd say usually too early.
If you see "crystal, clear or shinny" Tric's, there is no THC in them...
Milky Tric's are filled with The Best THC....
Amber Tric's are degraded THC, but still have them...
Maybe if you have harvested late, [really on time + 8 weeks from when you first see flowers]... You are getting MJ at it's peak, and not premature pot, with clear/shinny Trics?
So, jumping to the next conclusion, you think "Couch Lock" instead of good hi... IDK, what ever hi you want....
Personally, I have never experienced "Couch Lock"....

I grow and smoke mostly Indica Hybred...

This taken from Harvesting, and Curing thread by k0ijn, a real expert... worth your time to read again...

The first state is clear. Clear trichomes contain precursor cannabinoids (cannabinoids are the different substances in cannabis).
These precursor cannabinoids are not psychoactive (they do not produce a 'high') yet and harvesting clear trichomes will not give you a proper harvest.




The second state is cloudy/milky. Cloudy trichomes contain fully realized THC (the by far main contributing substance in any cannabis high).
You want to get as close to 100% cloudy trichomes @ harvest to get the most potency out of your plant. It's impossible to get 100% cloudy trichomes, since trichomes are always being produced and are always maturing, even after harvest the trichomes will continue to develop.




The third state is amber. Amber trichomes contain degraded THC --> CBN. CBN represents a loss of 90% potency (from THC).
CBN is not desirable in any harvest, since it not only represents a huge loss of potency but research into the substance has also shown that CBN does not produce a high like THC does, CBN produces a more sickly feeling not a true high.




Understanding the difference between clear - cloudy - amber trichomes is essential in getting a proper harvest with a peak potency.
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sworth

sworth

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joe blow greenthumb said:
Shows how you'd rather argue than help. But hey, at least you posted, right? If not contributing to the conversation, then why respond? There are enough of these already on RIU. Please help the OP or leave well enough alone.
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Helping the OP by pointing out that bmeat knows jackshit about growing, I'd say this was a contribution, which is why I responded.
Peace
 
joe blow greenthumb

joe blow greenthumb

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Direct or indirect, it was a potshot at someone without any helpful info. It would've been better top just move on to the next post. Its like telling someone their going to have an accident without elaborating on it. Which is just as unhelpful as a wrong answer. But thanks anyways!
 
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bmeat

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sworth said:
Helping the OP by pointing out that bmeat knows jackshit about growing, I'd say this was a contribution, which is why I responded.
Peace
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what i said here was all factual..so please shut the fuck up.

i have NO problem with you calling me out when im wrong, but im not wrong.

i whole heartdly believe that you can get the same effect from a indica and a sativa if you harvest at the correct points..this is why i will be growing indicas from now im. ive been under the impression that sativas are the way to go to get high, but i really think thats only becuase the indica harvest window is so much smaller.

like i said, sativa and indica are identical speices, just adapted to different environments.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Do I honestly have to explain this again? God dammit. AMBER TRICHOMES REPRESENT A 90% LOSS IN POTENCY(THC). CBN IS NOT A CANNABANOID THAT YOU WANT TO BE SMOKING. That's all I'm saying, I've seriously had to explain this 10 times in the past week. It's becoming redundant.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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bmeat said:
what i said here was all factual..so please shut the fuck up.

i have NO problem with you calling me out when im wrong, but im not wrong.

i whole heartdly believe that you can get the same effect from a indica and a sativa if you harvest at the correct points..this is why i will be growing indicas from now im. ive been under the impression that sativas are the way to go to get high, but i really think thats only becuase the indica harvest window is so much smaller.

like i said, sativa and indica are identical speices, just adapted to different environments.
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I really wish you would shut the fuck up. Cannabis Indica and Cannabis Sativa are different SPECIES you retard.

Cannabis is the Genus. Indica, Sativa and Ruderalis are the SPECIES. If they were the same they would all be called India or Sativa. Once again you are

WRONG
 
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bmeat

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ahh..so they are the same family, genus but different species?

thanks for clearing that up!

edit: i think they are the same species, but different subspecies? anyone know for sure?
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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bmeat said:
ahh..so they are the same family, genus but different species?

thanks for clearing that up!
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Honestly, why do you think Sativa, Indica have different names? Who in the hell would give the same thing different names? You probably should stop posting and start reading(I'm sure I've said that before)

You're like that son nobody wants but have to tolerate because they won't go away. Are you EVER going to take our advice about you not giving advice unless you are 100% sure you know what you're talking about?
 
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bmeat

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i really should..but i edited my post.

i think they are the same species, but different subspecies? anyone know for sure?
 
RetiredMatthebrute

RetiredMatthebrute

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i just harvested 2 plants, both at the same time and both were mostly cloudy. one bud gives me a brainy high and the other gives me a stoned stupid high.....fuck all this trichome bullshit man, its more genetically dependant than what colot the trichomes are. yeah im sure that the chemical changes in the triches do add to it but if you have a couchlock strain it dosent matter what color the trichomes are.


my 2¢
 
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