How many innocent lives are your guns worth?

ginwilly

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Why don't we lock up failed suicide attempts for attempted murder, or conspiracy to commit murder? I'm not advocating for that, but it would be consistent with the law if suicide is illegal. Or do we lock up some?

I heard a nurse in our ER tell a man who slit his wrist that a real man knows you have to slice vertically and to quit wasting everyone's time and either do it right or stop doing it. It was awesome.
 

HeartlandHank

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It's also illegal to put your donkey in your bathtub here. Although I've never actually never seen this I strongly suspect it still goes on. So I can't come up with two.
WHAAtT? I guess I will make a detour next time i go from FL to NY. Fuck that.
 

Figong

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It's also illegal to put your donkey in your bathtub here. Although I've never actually never seen this I strongly suspect it still goes on. So I can't come up with two.
You should be so lucky yours just involves a donkey, fellatio is 'illegal' in Michigan.
 

ginwilly

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You should be so lucky yours just involves a donkey, fellatio is 'illegal' in Michigan.
That's funny. I actually grew up in MI (Go Blue!) and I know that little ban doesn't work. I think there is double digit states with sodomy laws still on the books. I guess our grandads never got hummers or it would have been just a simple buttsex ban. No man, gay or straight would ban bjs today.

Grew up downriver, still have family there, still a diehard Detroit sports fan.
 

Figong

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That's funny. I actually grew up in MI (Go Blue!) and I know that little ban doesn't work. I think there is double digit states with sodomy laws still on the books. I guess our grandads never got hummers or it would have been just a simple buttsex ban. No man, gay or straight would ban bjs today.

Grew up downriver, still have family there, still a diehard Detroit sports fan.
Am an hour(ish) to the north of there, hailing from somewhere close to the Port Huron area, where I-94 and I-69 meet/end.
 

ginwilly

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Am an hour(ish) to the north of there, hailing from somewhere close to the Port Huron area, where I-94 and I-69 meet/end.
OK, I've got a buddy down here from Sarnia. It's pretty up there. I liked Huron Lake better than Erie but didn't make it there much. I grew up looking at dreary Erie everyday. I wasn't too far from the Fermi plant.
 

Figong

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OK, I've got a buddy down here from Sarnia. It's pretty up there. I liked Huron Lake better than Erie but didn't make it there much. I grew up looking at dreary Erie everyday. I wasn't too far from the Fermi plant.
Great, irradiation for the win! lol Love Lake Huron :D
 

Canna Sylvan

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you take for yourself the role of arbiter of language, declaring that the constitution doesnt mena what it once did, and we must all accept your re-imagining of our rights which hold no resemblance to the rights we are guaranteed by the constitution you hold in such contempt.

claiming the constitution is obsolete, dead, worthless and best forgotten may be fashionable among the lefty elites but the supreme court, and the rest of america disagree.

you may prefer a constitution whose meaning changes so often that it means NOTHING, but the rest of us who can actually read understand, that if you want to change the document that establishes our union then you have to follow the amendment procedure.

none of the changes you want will ever occur. what you want is a banana republic not a constitutional representative republic.
Canndo is a fucking retard. FUTURE definitions change words. A past written word FOREVER means what the author meant. If you want it in present vernacular, you footnote it.

The reason the Constitution is a living document is because you can amend it, not because you can change militia to mean the military or arms doesn't include full auto.

You don't like what the 2nd means, write a line out amendment which makes us government slaves.

I think this current constitutional law the Supreme Court does is illegal. "If they only khew." Umm they did fucking know, which is why it was written how it was, to keep our rights from Irish fuckhead moslem atheist presidents who use children as pawns for their agenda 21, etc.
 

Dr Kynes

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Canndo is a fucking retard. FUTURE definitions change words. A past written word FOREVER means what the author meant. If you want it in present vernacular, you footnote it.

The reason the Constitution is a living document is because you can amend it, not because you can change militia to mean the military or arms doesn't include full auto.

You don't like what the 2nd means, write a line out amendment which makes us government slaves.

I think this current constitutional law the Supreme Court does is illegal. "If they only khew." Umm they did fucking know, which is why it was written how it was, to keep our rights from Irish fuckhead moslem atheist presidents who use children as pawns for their agenda 21, etc.




 

Doer

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Well, I get what Scalia means, but I don't like the term. It's not dead. But, it is the basis of Law. A foundation. Now. Is my home foundation, "dead?"

I sure hope so. But, some foundation around here are very much alive and trying their best to slide down into oblivion. So we have, what we want to have is a set foundation for Law, amendable by 3/4 majorities. You chaos agents hate that. Without this Document, we would be in same boat as the most of the world. A rudderless ship that just drifts on the winds of windbags.

The foundation is settled. It is the Law itself that is very much alive.
 

greenswag

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Here in PA there is a law that if you're driving and a wild horse is spooked, you must camouflage your car, and if it is still spooked you must take it apart piece by piece lol, must have been easier when the law was made with just buggies.

Theres another one where you can't have more than two cows in your bathtub at one time, and lastly we have a law that says it is illegal to have sex with a dead fish...you have to wonder who did that and got it illegal?
 

ginwilly

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Here in PA there is a law that if you're driving and a wild horse is spooked, you must camouflage your car, and if it is still spooked you must take it apart piece by piece lol, must have been easier when the law was made with just buggies.

Theres another one where you can't have more than two cows in your bathtub at one time, and lastly we have a law that says it is illegal to have sex with a dead fish...you have to wonder who did that and got it illegal?
I always thought that was just an old saying. My ex could be a dead fish sometimes, sex didn't need to be illegal though.
 

Doer

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Here in PA there is a law that if you're driving and a wild horse is spooked, you must camouflage your car, and if it is still spooked you must take it apart piece by piece lol, must have been easier when the law was made with just buggies.

Theres another one where you can't have more than two cows in your bathtub at one time, and lastly we have a law that says it is illegal to have sex with a dead fish...you have to wonder who did that and got it illegal?
There has to books about the rather interesting reasons for these laws.. I used to think it was stupid to leave these laws on the books. Now I see why. It's the true history of We. And really, there should be laws about bathing with cows and what you can do with dead fish. :)
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
  • Theaters in Glendale, California can show horror films only on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday.
  • You can't plow a cotton field with an elephant in North Carolina.
  • In Lehigh, Nebraska it's against the law to sell donut holes.
  • Under the law of Mississippi, there’s no such thing as a female Peeping Tom.
  • Anti-modem laws restrict Internet access in the country of Burma. Illegal possession of a modem can lead to a prison term.
  • Lawn darts are illegal in Canada.
  • In Idaho a citizen is forbidden by law to give another citizen a box of candy that weighs more than 50 pounds.
  • Every citizen of Kentucky is required by law to take a bath at least once a year.
  • It is against the law to whale hunt in Oklahoma. (Think about it...)
  • A Venetian law decrees that all gondolas must be painted black. The only exceptions are gondolas belonging to high public officials.
  • In the state of Queensland, Australia, it is still constitutional law that all pubs (hotel/bar) must have a railing outside for patrons to tie up their horse.
  • According to law, no store is allowed to sell a toothbrush on the Sabbath in Providence, Rhode Island. Yet these same stores are allowed to sell toothpaste and mouthwash on Sundays.
  • Before the enactment of the 1978 law that made it mandatory for dog owners in New York City to clean up after their pets, approximately 40 million pounds of dog excrement were deposited on the streets every year.
  • Chewing gum is outlawed in Singapore because it is a means of "tainting an environment free of dirt."
  • The handkerchief had been used by the Romans, who ordinarily wore two handkerchiefs: one on the left wrist and one tucked in at the waist or around the neck. In the fifteenth century, the handkerchief was for a time allowed only to the nobility; special laws were made to enforce this. The classical heritage was rediscovered during the Renaissance.
  • For hundreds of years, the Chinese zealously guarded the secret of sericulture; imperial law decreed death by torture to those who disclosed how to make silk.
  • An old law in Bellingham, Washington, made it illegal for a woman to take more than 3 steps backwards while dancing.
  • By law, information collected in a U.S. census must remain confidential for 72 years.
  • Candy made from pieces of barrel cactus was outlawed in the U.S. in 1952 to protect the species.
  • A slander case in Thailand was once settled by a witness who said nothing at all. According to the memoirs of Justice Gerald Sparrow, a 20th century British barrister who served as a judge in Bangkok, the case involved two rival Chinese merchants. Pu Lin and Swee Ho. Pu Lin had stated sneeringly at a party that Swee Ho's new wife, Li Bua, was merely a decoration to show how rich her husband was. Swee Ho, he said, could no longer "please the ladies." Swee Ho sued for slander, claiming Li Bua was his wife in every sense - and he won his case, along with substantial damages, without a word of evidence being taken. Swee Ho's lawyer simply put the blushing bride in the witness box. She had decorative, gold-painted fingernails, to be sure, but she was also quite obviously pregnant.
  • In Breton, Alabama, there is a law on the town's books against riding down the street in a motorboat.
  • Connecticut and Rhode Island never ratified the 18th Amendment: Prohibition.
  • A few years back, a Chinese soap hit it big with consumers in Asia. It was claimed in ads that users would lose weight with Seaweed Defat Scented Soap simply by washing with it. The soap was sold in violation to the Japanese Pharmaceutical Affairs Law and was banned. Reportedly, the craze for the soap was so great that Japanese tourists from China and Hong Kong brought back large quantities. The product was also in violation of customs regulations. In June and July 1999 alone, over 10,000 bars were seized.
  • In most American states, a wedding ring is exempt by law from inclusion among the assets in a bankruptcy estate. This means that a wedding ring cannot be seized by creditors, no matter how much the bankrupt person owes.
  • In New York State, it is still illegal to shoot a rabbit from a moving trolley car.
  • Vermont, Alaska, Hawaii, and Maine are the four states in the U.S. that do not allow billboards.
  • Wetaskiwin, Alberta from 1917: "It's against the law to tie a male horse next to a female horse on Main Street."
  • Women were banned by royal decree from using hotel swimming pools in Jidda, Saudi Arabia, in 1979.
  • In Riverside, California, there is an old law on the city's books which makes it illegal to kiss unless both people wipe their lips with rose water.
  • In Saudi Arabia, a woman reportedly may divorce her husband if he does not keep her supplied with coffee.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
  • Theaters in Glendale, California can show horror films only on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday.
  • You can't plow a cotton field with an elephant in North Carolina.
  • In Lehigh, Nebraska it's against the law to sell donut holes.
  • Under the law of Mississippi, there’s no such thing as a female Peeping Tom.
  • Anti-modem laws restrict Internet access in the country of Burma. Illegal possession of a modem can lead to a prison term.
  • Lawn darts are illegal in Canada.
  • In Idaho a citizen is forbidden by law to give another citizen a box of candy that weighs more than 50 pounds.
  • Every citizen of Kentucky is required by law to take a bath at least once a year.
  • It is against the law to whale hunt in Oklahoma. (Think about it...)
  • A Venetian law decrees that all gondolas must be painted black. The only exceptions are gondolas belonging to high public officials.
  • In the state of Queensland, Australia, it is still constitutional law that all pubs (hotel/bar) must have a railing outside for patrons to tie up their horse.
  • According to law, no store is allowed to sell a toothbrush on the Sabbath in Providence, Rhode Island. Yet these same stores are allowed to sell toothpaste and mouthwash on Sundays.
  • Before the enactment of the 1978 law that made it mandatory for dog owners in New York City to clean up after their pets, approximately 40 million pounds of dog excrement were deposited on the streets every year.
  • Chewing gum is outlawed in Singapore because it is a means of "tainting an environment free of dirt."
  • The handkerchief had been used by the Romans, who ordinarily wore two handkerchiefs: one on the left wrist and one tucked in at the waist or around the neck. In the fifteenth century, the handkerchief was for a time allowed only to the nobility; special laws were made to enforce this. The classical heritage was rediscovered during the Renaissance.
  • For hundreds of years, the Chinese zealously guarded the secret of sericulture; imperial law decreed death by torture to those who disclosed how to make silk.
  • An old law in Bellingham, Washington, made it illegal for a woman to take more than 3 steps backwards while dancing.
  • By law, information collected in a U.S. census must remain confidential for 72 years.
  • Candy made from pieces of barrel cactus was outlawed in the U.S. in 1952 to protect the species.
  • A slander case in Thailand was once settled by a witness who said nothing at all. According to the memoirs of Justice Gerald Sparrow, a 20th century British barrister who served as a judge in Bangkok, the case involved two rival Chinese merchants. Pu Lin and Swee Ho. Pu Lin had stated sneeringly at a party that Swee Ho's new wife, Li Bua, was merely a decoration to show how rich her husband was. Swee Ho, he said, could no longer "please the ladies." Swee Ho sued for slander, claiming Li Bua was his wife in every sense - and he won his case, along with substantial damages, without a word of evidence being taken. Swee Ho's lawyer simply put the blushing bride in the witness box. She had decorative, gold-painted fingernails, to be sure, but she was also quite obviously pregnant.
  • In Breton, Alabama, there is a law on the town's books against riding down the street in a motorboat.
  • Connecticut and Rhode Island never ratified the 18th Amendment: Prohibition.
  • A few years back, a Chinese soap hit it big with consumers in Asia. It was claimed in ads that users would lose weight with Seaweed Defat Scented Soap simply by washing with it. The soap was sold in violation to the Japanese Pharmaceutical Affairs Law and was banned. Reportedly, the craze for the soap was so great that Japanese tourists from China and Hong Kong brought back large quantities. The product was also in violation of customs regulations. In June and July 1999 alone, over 10,000 bars were seized.
  • In most American states, a wedding ring is exempt by law from inclusion among the assets in a bankruptcy estate. This means that a wedding ring cannot be seized by creditors, no matter how much the bankrupt person owes.
  • In New York State, it is still illegal to shoot a rabbit from a moving trolley car.
  • Vermont, Alaska, Hawaii, and Maine are the four states in the U.S. that do not allow billboards.
  • Wetaskiwin, Alberta from 1917: "It's against the law to tie a male horse next to a female horse on Main Street."
  • Women were banned by royal decree from using hotel swimming pools in Jidda, Saudi Arabia, in 1979.
  • In Riverside, California, there is an old law on the city's books which makes it illegal to kiss unless both people wipe their lips with rose water.
  • In Saudi Arabia, a woman reportedly may divorce her husband if he does not keep her supplied with coffee.
in the city of Vallejo California you cannot park anywhere legally, unless you tie up your car. the law states that "all Carriages, whether horsed or horseless must be tied to a hitching post when not occupied by a driver".
in Sacramento, after sunset every car must follow behind a man on foot holding a whale oil lanthorn, as he shouts "An Automobile is coming!"
in Washington state theres a law prohibiting animals (even wild animals) from bathing on "the sabbath"
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Ah ha! I didn't know this one. But, it is a great example. And hope folks can understand how this shows the thinking.

+ By law, information collected in a U.S. census must remain confidential for 72 years.

Constitutionally this is the only wholesale record keeping on US citizens allowed. So, I doubt if we will ever see national registration of anything....not births, not voting, not guns, nothing. Always the States. In a very real way the Federal Govt is not allowed to know anything about us beyond the census every 10 years. And they do not. An except for the draft and re-districting, it is all about passing out the Money.

Everything is us contacting them; to travel abroad, to report bad guys. We (they) are supposed to leave we (us) alone. It violates the 9th Amendment.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Ah ha! I didn't know this one. But, it is a great example. And hope folks can understand how this shows the thinking.

+ By law, information collected in a U.S. census must remain confidential for 72 years.

Constitutionally this is the only wholesale record keeping on US citizens allowed. So, I doubt if we will ever see national registration of anything....not births, not voting, not guns, nothing. Always the States. In a very real way the Federal Govt is not allowed to know anything about us beyond the census every 10 years. And they do not*. An except for the draft and re-districting, it is all about passing out the Money.
Beg to differ - DHS budget around $100b. Spy Agencies around $55b... And that doesn't take into DOD overt or covert budget. After spending that much coin, you better believe they're data mining anything & everything.
 
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