How am I doing, First Grow, need some advice

Canibitual

Canibitual

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Ninjabowler said:
Are they hydro nutes?
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if it's water soluble, then yes, it can be used in hydro...

Hydro mix's Use more Calcium nitrate and some minor amounts of ammonium nitrate.... they tend to stay away from Urea Nitrate...

mainly look at the N, you don't want much Urea or ammonium Nitrates in a hydro mix... they are broken down in soil... and arent really readliy usable as needed in hydro... I don't really know the specifics behind that though... I've just heard it before and noticed it on most hydro mix's...
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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Ganked said:
it says for indoor hydroponics
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Thats good, glad to here thats not the problem. Ya, add more nutes. Also wouldnt hurt to get some good nutes. 30 bucks or so. And ya, your plant is young so your giving it alot of light right now.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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Canibitual said:
if it's water soluble, then yes, it can be used in hydro...

Hydro mix's Use more Calcium nitrate and some minor amounts of ammonium nitrate.... they tend to stay away from Urea Nitrate...

mainly look at the N, you don't want much Urea or ammonium Nitrates in a hydro mix... they are broken down in soil... and arent really readliy usable as needed in hydro... I don't really know the specifics behind that though... I've just heard it before and noticed it on most hydro mix's...
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Nice to see you again bud ;)
 
Canibitual

Canibitual

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he's prob underfeeding it thinking that he's got this whole big bottle of nutes... and he should only add a little, however... as I pointed out, only .19% of that bottle is stuff the plants will eat... (less than 1 percent)

Get a Ph and PPM Meter, then you'll know exactly how much food your feeding it... without that... It's just a guessing game, and adding more each time untill you get slight nute burn and back off...

overall though... that will not be a good base mix... a good base mix will contain ALL of the 3 numbers on the front... then you supplement that with two other mixes for veg and/or flower (high N Veg) High PK flower)
 
Ninjabowler

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AnonymousOG said:
Good grow ninjabowler how many watts are you running? Are you using distilled water or tap?
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1200 watts, tap water, ph 6, with sensi a&b, mixed ph is 6, i use calmag @ 1 drop per litre and superthrive @ 1 drop per gallon. Change my rez every 15 to 20 days and my ph is up to 7ish. The middle tote wasnt changed for 50 days. Never used ph down once and after 50 days the ph was 7.
 
AnonymousOG

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Lucky you got great tap and don't have to buy bottles of down I always ph my tap at around 7.4 and bring it down to around 6.1-6.4 growing in coco and using Genral Hydroponics.
 
Canibitual

Canibitual

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funny you should mention ph... since I only look at it once when setting a new base mix... here's some of the mixes I've been using... none of them require me to add ph up or down... as my soil is good with 5.8-6.2, and my old hydro mixes had no issues with 6.0...

(veg)8ml Flora Nova bloom + 4ml Calmag = 6.0 (1000ppm) (1200ppm with tap)

(flower)8ml Flora nova bloom + 2ml Calmag + 6mL Liquid Kool BLoom = 6.0 ph 1000ppm (1200ppm with tap)
or
(Flower)8ml Flora Nova Bloom + 2ml Calmag + 6ml MPK (mono-potassium phosphate) = 6.0 ph (1200ppm with tap)
or (heavyier Flower)8ml Flora Nova Bloom + 2ml Calmag + 8ml MPK (mono-potassium phosphate) = 6.0 ph (1200ppm) 1400 with tap)
(Flower)8ml Flora Nova Bloom + 2ml Calmag + 8ml MPK (mono-potassium phosphate) = 6.0 ph (1200ppm) 1400 with tap)


or... last week of flower
6ml Flora nova bloom + 12ml MPK = 6.0ph (1000ppm) tap 1200ppm)
or
6ml Flora Nova bloom + 12ml Liquid Kool Bloom = 6.0ph (1000ppm) tap 1200ppm)

I feed clones with that 1000ppm veg mix from start... they never burn in Rockwool cubes... I cut back to 800ppms for first water/transplants in soil though because of the nutes in the soil...
 
Canibitual

Canibitual

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AnonymousOG said:
Lucky you got great tap and don't have to buy bottles of down I always ph my tap at around 7.4 and bring it down to around 6.1-6.4 growing in coco and using Genral Hydroponics.
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heavyier nute mix can buffer it...
also.. go to the pool department (homedepot/lowes) and get murietic acid... far cheaper, and doesn't change/loose 50% ph overnight...
 
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bmeat

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nutrients will lower ph. so if you start with 6.0-6.5 youll be good.

if you wanted to use alkaline buffered tapwater, would filtereing it through a charcoal filter (like a brita) to get rid of the metals that cause the ph to rebound work? this seems like the cheapest solution, but i dont know if itll work. just throwing it out there.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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bmeat said:
nutrients will lower ph. so if you start with 6.0-6.5 youll be good.

if you wanted to use alkaline buffered tapwater, would filtereing it through a charcoal filter (like a brita) to get rid of the metals that cause the ph to rebound work? this seems like the cheapest solution, but i dont know if itll work. just throwing it out there.
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nitrogen will lower ph, but i believe the P brings it up.

ALWAYS ph after you add nutes.
 
Canibitual

Canibitual

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bmeat said:
nutrients will lower ph. so if you start with 6.0-6.5 youll be good.

if you wanted to use alkaline buffered tapwater, would filtereing it through a charcoal filter (like a brita) to get rid of the metals that cause the ph to rebound work? this seems like the cheapest solution, but i dont know if itll work. just throwing it out there.
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nutes will not technically "lower it"... they will buffer it... meaning they can go up or down depending on water ph...
 
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