Great article on getting tight outdoor nugs / faster finishing

be ez

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Some interesting stuff I found a while back on big buds mag

Creds to Brown Dirt Warrior

As novices, we have all experienced plants that have grown wonderfully articulate buds that did not finish as tight "nugs," much to our dismay. They looked great to the eye, but when they are dried down, they actually became light and airy—one of a growers’ worst nightmares.
If you want thick, solid, earlier nugs, force the issue! Timed and calculated stress can be advantageous to your marijuana plants. Case in point, a technique known as forcing.
Forcing is a phenomenon that occurs when the plant become root bound. This stress triggers the plant to flower earlier and more vigorously. When the plant gets ultra taxed from the roots entangling and entwining in on themselves, they create a “root mass.” With no further place for the roots to go, the plant goes into shock, triggers flowering, and hastens to finish its life cycle.
You may have noticed this phenomenon quite unintentionally when you have neglected to transplant a specimen into a larger pot. Your other plants (the ones that had been moved into bigger pots) grew bushier and taller, while the one that was still in the inadequate pot was stunted but seemed to produce bigger buds that started earlier and finished harder. Sound familiar now that you think about it?
The phenomenon of forcing does not readily occur in nature. Generally speaking, the plant drives down a tap root to find moisture while the feeder roots sprawl to gather sustenance as long as the vegetative cycle is still in gear. Putting the plant into a fixed and finite environment—not big enough to accommodate full vegetative potentiality, predestines it to reach a critical growth mass when it fills the existing environment and can do no further vegetative growth during the growth cycle. With no further room for growth, the plant still wants to thrive, so it puts its energy into flowering and spreading its progeny.
You can force two ways. You can do your final transplant into pots of a size the marijuana is sure to outgrow, or you can counter sink industrial strength garbage bags (to create a closed environment) in the ground, perforate them for drainage, then plant your marijuana in those as their final destination. Be sure the holes you line with the bags are similar in size to the diameter of the pot you would use. A good rule of thumb for marijuana in the Northern Hemisphere is a 7-gallon pot as the final transplant.
A great trick I like to use is to hasten the forcing even more by using beneficial bacteria and fungi. This causes explosive growth to your root system, causing your plants to become root bound much faster. Colonize your rhizosphere with these puppies and watch you roots outgrow their homes in no time.
Forcing can limit the vegetative mass of your plant, but this can pay for itself with early flowers and big, dense buds. A stem that has been flowering longer gains more density and thus weigh (the growers best friend) when the plant is not ready to die off. And that mean the dense, tight nugs that we all love.



What do you guys think?
 

SenorBrownWater

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i disagree with some of that..this part
"This stress triggers the plant to flower earlier and more vigorously. When the plant gets ultra taxed from the roots entangling and entwining in on themselves, they create a “root mass.” With no further place for the roots to go, the plant goes into shock, triggers flowering, and hastens to finish its life cycle."
i have root bound plants in my mom room...they are not flowering...
also 7 gallon pot ...really?
wtf
 

shizz

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i have noticed what your saying. but iv noticed that the plants grow smaller buds cuase they us up all the nitrogen. and they get dense cause they still have lots of p and k in the soil. il like your idea for swamps. cause the smaller dense buds dont mold as much. i find the more ful sun the faster they finish. giving them a shit load p around july 4 trigers flowering....on some strains.
 

be ez

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i disagree with some of that..this part
"This stress triggers the plant to flower earlier and more vigorously. When the plant gets ultra taxed from the roots entangling and entwining in on themselves, they create a “root mass.” With no further place for the roots to go, the plant goes into shock, triggers flowering, and hastens to finish its life cycle."
i have root bound plants in my mom room...they are not flowering...

Indoors and outdoors are two very different things, no shit your root bound mother plants won't be flowering with veg light cycles and spectrums...
 
Some interesting stuff I found a while back on big buds mag

Creds to Brown Dirt Warrior

As novices, we have all experienced plants that have grown wonderfully articulate buds that did not finish as tight "nugs," much to our dismay. They looked great to the eye, but when they are dried down, they actually became light and airy—one of a growers’ worst nightmares.
If you want thick, solid, earlier nugs, force the issue! Timed and calculated stress can be advantageous to your marijuana plants. Case in point, a technique known as forcing.
Forcing is a phenomenon that occurs when the plant become root bound. This stress triggers the plant to flower earlier and more vigorously. When the plant gets ultra taxed from the roots entangling and entwining in on themselves, they create a “root mass.” With no further place for the roots to go, the plant goes into shock, triggers flowering, and hastens to finish its life cycle.
You may have noticed this phenomenon quite unintentionally when you have neglected to transplant a specimen into a larger pot. Your other plants (the ones that had been moved into bigger pots) grew bushier and taller, while the one that was still in the inadequate pot was stunted but seemed to produce bigger buds that started earlier and finished harder. Sound familiar now that you think about it?
The phenomenon of forcing does not readily occur in nature. Generally speaking, the plant drives down a tap root to find moisture while the feeder roots sprawl to gather sustenance as long as the vegetative cycle is still in gear. Putting the plant into a fixed and finite environment—not big enough to accommodate full vegetative potentiality, predestines it to reach a critical growth mass when it fills the existing environment and can do no further vegetative growth during the growth cycle. With no further room for growth, the plant still wants to thrive, so it puts its energy into flowering and spreading its progeny.
You can force two ways. You can do your final transplant into pots of a size the marijuana is sure to outgrow, or you can counter sink industrial strength garbage bags (to create a closed environment) in the ground, perforate them for drainage, then plant your marijuana in those as their final destination. Be sure the holes you line with the bags are similar in size to the diameter of the pot you would use. A good rule of thumb for marijuana in the Northern Hemisphere is a 7-gallon pot as the final transplant.
A great trick I like to use is to hasten the forcing even more by using beneficial bacteria and fungi. This causes explosive growth to your root system, causing your plants to become root bound much faster. Colonize your rhizosphere with these puppies and watch you roots outgrow their homes in no time.
Forcing can limit the vegetative mass of your plant, but this can pay for itself with early flowers and big, dense buds. A stem that has been flowering longer gains more density and thus weigh (the growers best friend) when the plant is not ready to die off. And that mean the dense, tight nugs that we all love.



What do you guys think?
wow, hands down and well said, brwndiirt warrior teaches us well. brother u put everything down to the tee thank you peace out ol hippy Shotgun
 

SenorBrownWater

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Indoors and outdoors are two very different things, no shit your root bound mother plants won't be flowering with veg light cycles and spectrums...

the way you decided to write this thread is hard to understand..imo..and the yankees are a pack of cheaters ...(everyone's opinion):hump:
 

be ez

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the way you decided to write this thread is hard to understand..imo..and the yankees are a pack of cheaters ...(everyone's opinion):hump:
may have been a little harsh but I definetly think the plants I had in pots instead of the ground began to flower earlier. Maybe a trade up between a premature harvest with more weight as opposed to less weight with a early finish.

and its not cheating if everyones doing it :blsmoke: haha
 

nuggs

Well-Known Member
Some interesting stuff I found a while back on big buds mag

Creds to Brown Dirt Warrior

As novices, we have all experienced plants that have grown wonderfully articulate buds that did not finish as tight "nugs," much to our dismay. They looked great to the eye, but when they are dried down, they actually became light and airy—one of a growers’ worst nightmares.
If you want thick, solid, earlier nugs, force the issue! Timed and calculated stress can be advantageous to your marijuana plants. Case in point, a technique known as forcing.
Forcing is a phenomenon that occurs when the plant become root bound. This stress triggers the plant to flower earlier and more vigorously. When the plant gets ultra taxed from the roots entangling and entwining in on themselves, they create a “root mass.” With no further place for the roots to go, the plant goes into shock, triggers flowering, and hastens to finish its life cycle.
You may have noticed this phenomenon quite unintentionally when you have neglected to transplant a specimen into a larger pot. Your other plants (the ones that had been moved into bigger pots) grew bushier and taller, while the one that was still in the inadequate pot was stunted but seemed to produce bigger buds that started earlier and finished harder. Sound familiar now that you think about it?
The phenomenon of forcing does not readily occur in nature. Generally speaking, the plant drives down a tap root to find moisture while the feeder roots sprawl to gather sustenance as long as the vegetative cycle is still in gear. Putting the plant into a fixed and finite environment—not big enough to accommodate full vegetative potentiality, predestines it to reach a critical growth mass when it fills the existing environment and can do no further vegetative growth during the growth cycle. With no further room for growth, the plant still wants to thrive, so it puts its energy into flowering and spreading its progeny.
You can force two ways. You can do your final transplant into pots of a size the marijuana is sure to outgrow, or you can counter sink industrial strength garbage bags (to create a closed environment) in the ground, perforate them for drainage, then plant your marijuana in those as their final destination. Be sure the holes you line with the bags are similar in size to the diameter of the pot you would use. A good rule of thumb for marijuana in the Northern Hemisphere is a 7-gallon pot as the final transplant.
A great trick I like to use is to hasten the forcing even more by using beneficial bacteria and fungi. This causes explosive growth to your root system, causing your plants to become root bound much faster. Colonize your rhizosphere with these puppies and watch you roots outgrow their homes in no time.
Forcing can limit the vegetative mass of your plant, but this can pay for itself with early flowers and big, dense buds. A stem that has been flowering longer gains more density and thus weigh (the growers best friend) when the plant is not ready to die off. And that mean the dense, tight nugs that we all love.



What do you guys think?
i agree with brown water this is bullshit nice try but i don't work like that. but I must add I only grow outdoors .this is the outdoor section right? and I don't know much about growing in the mid west. you folks got lota more problems than ca. my nuggs sound like marbles dropped on the table. if I let it over ripen it stretches.
 

nuggs

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I know why you're using the 5gallon buckets but for the life of me I can't understand why he wants root bound unless of space constraints. I get the stress deal but why not grow big then cut the water .it'll push then trying to catch it's breath the BITCH! shhhhhh HAHA

oh yeah nice grow beast I like it.you got it down
 

deePTokEn

Active Member
I do notice though when I plant in buckets that they do mature and bud faster then the ones in the ground... cant lie about that.
 

ilovethegreen

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Hmmm yeah i'm not too sure about this. im pretty sure a big pot will lead to massive rock hard buds....being root bound isn't good whatever way you put it.
 

nuggs

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this article is the reason I am doing 5 gallon buckets this year.
Beast your grow is going to be rocking. what I seen you put together will work and proper. Sorry I can't agree with everything in the" what do you think".
 

jessica d

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starving them of water works well to trigger flower. doing that by rootbounding makes them dry constantly. i find bigger pots with lots of room on the dry side works best for me:weed:
 

nuggs

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seeds do, clones don't.

i've read that in books so you are right seeds have a tap ,it's the first root that grows when it pops. I have bigger feeder roots than the tap. it's not like a tree that has a tap as long and deep as the tree is tall. thanks for the correction uncle buck you're the expert.
 
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