theloadeddragon
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some nutes require other nutes in order to be used. I dont feel like explaining it right now, research how Plants actually use the nutrients 
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Alright, thanks for your help anyway. Ill read up some articles about it.
Update:
So what i found out so far P lockout can occour when there is Iron buildup/def in the soil or if the ph is above 7.
In that case i have a theory. My water ph after nutes added is 6.9-7 so soil should puffer it easily so thats not the problem imo.
Someone said that without BioBizz BioHeaven he had defficiencies all the time. So mb BioBizz makes his products unusable if u dont use the complete line cause they split their micronutritients between their products. Maybe Iron has been removed with other nutrients that can be found in their Heaven or Topmax. Thats just a theory but makes sense in this money orianted world
Update:
So what i found out so far P lockout can occour when there is Iron buildup/def in the soil or if the ph is above 7.
In that case i have a theory. My water ph after nutes added is 6.9-7 so soil should puffer it easily so thats not the problem imo.
Someone said that without BioBizz BioHeaven he had defficiencies all the time. So mb BioBizz makes his products unusable if u dont use the complete line cause they split their micronutritients between their products. Maybe Iron has been removed with other nutrients that can be found in their Heaven or Topmax. Thats just a theory but makes sense in this money orianted world
theloadeddragon
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They look great... sulfur/iron/zinc def. perhaps , but your doing really well. perhaps the soil isnt buffering out the higher ph because its designed to deal with lower ph adjustments? should check your run off and see whats coming out as.
It doesnt particularly matter what products you use so long as the plants get everything they need.
they will fatten up mostly between Days 40-60.
Dont play into the $ hype, there are really good and cheap products available as well
yesum
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I just finished a fem Nirvana NL and it is the most frosty of the several strains I ran including OG Kush. Strong buzz. I ran it in organic soil and added uvb light.
Was kinda stretchy with sativa like leaves and I left it go 12 weeks of flower. The top pistils would not turn amber even after that. The trichs are ambered up though. Could have taken it at 10 weeks looking back knowing the pistils would never change.
Was kinda stretchy with sativa like leaves and I left it go 12 weeks of flower. The top pistils would not turn amber even after that. The trichs are ambered up though. Could have taken it at 10 weeks looking back knowing the pistils would never change.
Hi mate thanks for sharing your experience. If u look at my ladies u can see two of them have still white pistils but trichomes on leaves are getting amber already. Im pretty sure the skinny tall one is sativa dominant cause of the slim leaves.
Imho they would have been already harvested if i dont make so many mistakes and shock them in veg and flower. The worst i havent really learnt anything.
Probably i should ve used the full biobizz line. Its just so unclear cause i see earlier threads with same set up with great results. The more i read the less i know. I can see different opinions and "facts" all over the internet. Someone says new biobizz all mix soil is just crap. Others say Grow and Bloom is enough alone. Others say i must use Heaven or ill have all kind of deficiencies.
Anyway... My next grow will be 12/12 from seed and i change my Biobizz soil to Plagron All mix and maybe i buy that freakin expensive biobizz heaven with Fish mix to sort out these issues.
Im pretty depressed with my girls cause i exepct maybe 1oz all in all from 4 plants and they r under 250W.... Thats my 3rd fail in a row and im still not sure where is the problem...
yesum
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Hi, guess you are in UK? I use pre amended soil and just water the plants.
I use Fox Farms Ocean Forrest (any good organic potting soil would do) soil with 20% perlite and 10% ewc. Stick seeds in this and veg them 6 weeks using water only with added lemon juice to lower ph.
Flower I up pot using the above soil with Rainbow Mix Bloom mixed in at 2 tbsp per gallon. Adding 2 tbsp bone meal and 1 tbsp blood meal would work too.
If you are having trouble with nutes you might want to consider the ready made soil thing. Has worked really good for me.
I use Fox Farms Ocean Forrest (any good organic potting soil would do) soil with 20% perlite and 10% ewc. Stick seeds in this and veg them 6 weeks using water only with added lemon juice to lower ph.
Flower I up pot using the above soil with Rainbow Mix Bloom mixed in at 2 tbsp per gallon. Adding 2 tbsp bone meal and 1 tbsp blood meal would work too.
If you are having trouble with nutes you might want to consider the ready made soil thing. Has worked really good for me.
puffdatchronic
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hey google ,your grow was good. Like I said earlier I am like you and use biobizz. My buds are on day 49 today ,but my plant developedthe same def as you had at around day 30 and has progressively ruined the plant ,she looks a lot worse than yours did at 49 ,although she is due to get chopped in a few days. I did a bit of reading on problems associated with biobizz and found that a lot of people claim it does not provide the plant with enough Magnesium.The solution to which is feed with a cal/mag supplement or Epsom salt from the beginning of flower.I will try it next time and see ,I know how you feel though to see your lovely plant start looking so bad..but at the end of the day once them leaves are trimmed ,its all about the buds and what they do to your brain that matters...
Hi chronic, its sad to hear that u have the same difficulties too. Its a real pain when u put so much effort into your girls but thats not enough. I still have faith in biobizz cause i think only their soil is crap and i saw their grow and bloom nutes even in a Cervantes ultimate grow movie where a guy used it in organic hydro system and his girls looked very happy. For my next grow i will change BB Allmix to Plagron All mix so i can check this out.
I was stressing with my girls together until i havent harvested the first one. After that i dont really bother with the yield anymore.
And as Dabolili said its still more than i expected after leaves started dying but im sure they could have been harvested 2 weeks ago if they didnt stress that much.
Thanks for the wishes Dabolili
I was stressing with my girls together until i havent harvested the first one. After that i dont really bother with the yield anymore.
And as Dabolili said its still more than i expected after leaves started dying but im sure they could have been harvested 2 weeks ago if they didnt stress that much.
Thanks for the wishes Dabolili
Bilbo Baggins
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Stumbled on this grow page and am amazed at the similarities between this and my first grow nearly ten years ago.
Northern Lights -- Check
Biobizz Soil -- Check
250W MH Light -- Check
Mines turned out not bad for a beginner -- good luck
Northern Lights -- Check
Biobizz Soil -- Check
250W MH Light -- Check
Mines turned out not bad for a beginner -- good luck
Hi Baggins, thanks for popping in. thats good to hear u didnt have to suffer that much during your first grow. Mine didnt turn out that bad as i expected cause the final end product gives a very strong high and the yield is desirable as well. I think i overreacted the problems a bit.
I already harvested the last 3 plants and after i trimmed i could hardly believe its real. It looks like 2oz at least.
Here is a pic about freshly trimmed buds but unfortunately i forgot to put a measuring object there like an ocb rolls. Anyway they r lying on like 6 A4 papers if that helps.
Ill upload a better pic after they r dried. I think just 2-3 days more.
I already harvested the last 3 plants and after i trimmed i could hardly believe its real. It looks like 2oz at least.
Here is a pic about freshly trimmed buds but unfortunately i forgot to put a measuring object there like an ocb rolls. Anyway they r lying on like 6 A4 papers if that helps.
Ill upload a better pic after they r dried. I think just 2-3 days more.