New Vermicomposter

MojoRison

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Very lucrative business if you know enough people, best of luck, not to mention the plants seem to love it :weed:
 

Rrog

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Best thing you could have done. I'd gladly trade a vortex brewer for a worm bin.
 

Redbird1223

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very nice! that beats buying one, and yours is twice as big! I learned they don't like "hot" stuff so much, so if you have compost or pre-composted scraps vs fresh scraps, they will break it down faster......except for banana peels and watermelon rinds will make them go nuts and make babies
 

Rrog

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Excellent discussion!!!

If everyone had a worm bin, we'd grow better product for a LOT LESS $$.

I have a worm "bag" which is a 30 gallon Geopot. Fabric. $15 and works great. Worms get very aerated medium, as all sides of the container breathes. Very cheap and effective which I like.
 

theQuetzalcoatl

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Looks like I'm into this worm farm for about $28.00 before worms. With worms about $50.00 maybe $60.00 as opposed to over $100 for the farm plus worms commercially.The basic write up is done. I just need to add the pictures. Expect it in the next few days.
 

Rrog

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Sweet! The more people doing this, the merrier. If you don't want to shell out $120 for a tall worm bin, try Quetzal's totes or the smart pot like I do. These are easy to raise, you feed them veggie scraps, and they make the best fertilizer available. You can amend the bin with kelp, fish meal, rock powders, etc just as you would amend the soil.

Then you simply top-dress the plant as it grows. AND you should re-use the soil, as it gets better with age. The grow gets cheaper and cheaper... while getting better and better
 

theQuetzalcoatl

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I was asked to write up a how to for my vermicomposter and I was also asked for blue prints so I figured I'd do a complete write up.
After doing a LOT of research about vermicomposting. (Starting with Rev's book "True Living Organics") I quickly realized that "commercial" worm farms are very expensive and really are quite simple. I did a bunch of further research and found out people are doing worm composting very effectively in really AWFUL worm farms made in cardboard boxes, foam coolers and lord knows what else. I decided I could do better for cheaper and I was totally right!

First I bought three "Rubbermaid Roughneck" 10 gallon heavy plastic totes with lids. Mine cost me $6.00 each at Wal-Mart .I'm sure they can be had cheaper but I wanted known quality and these ones were an almost ideal gray colour. (Black is ideal).

I purchased my spigot, washers and nuts for securing the spigot at Home depot for less than $10.00 total.
The spigot is a "1/2 inch boiler drain"



I used moen brand faucet lock nuts

and bought an assortment of rubber o-rings to use as washers.

To build the bottom tray (Which MUST be waterproof) I used my electric drill to drill a 1/2 inch hole as low on the first bin as I could while still being confident that I could thread the nuts onto the spigot. I applied a liberal amount of aquarium sealant on both sides of the hole just to make sure I had no leakage EVER. Once the aquarium sealant was tacky I threaded a nut onto the spigot, followed by an o-ring then I threaded the spigot through the hole. Once the spigot was snug against the plastic bin I added an o-ring to the inside and then the second nut which I tightened as tight as I was comfortable making the bin completely water tight. (I filled it with water overnight and had no leakage). I know it's ugly but Aquarium sealant should be food safe.


The other two trays are even simpler I stacked them just like they'll be when they're in the composter and I drilled a series of 1/4 inch holes around the lowest point in the bins so that the worm tea can leak down into the bottom tray and so that the worms can move back and forth bewteen the containers. It is important to understand that you can overdo it with the holes. The tea and worms only need about 8-10 holes to do their jobs effectively. I put in a few more holes but only because I'm using such big bins I wanted to make sure the trays had good bottom aeration.

Once you've done that your worm farm is essentially built. The next step is sourcing worms. The best place to buy them from in Ontario where I live is a place called Cathy's crawling composters. (they ship anywhere next day for cheap). For a farm this size you'll probably want a pound of worms. (Red wigglers only. Other worms will work but not nearly as well or as quickly)

My bottom tray got a layer of newspaper (black and white ink only no glossy paper). Then I added 4 cups of potting soil and perlite. (About 2-1) On top of the potting soil goes 2 pounds of worm food finely chopped and of course your pound of worms. (Best way is food at one end worms at the other. Worms are very light phobic so if you do this step in as bright an environment as possible you'll prompt them to dig in and get to work right away.)
The third bin goes in on top and has it's lid firmly attached. Your worm food goes into the middle bin until it is about 2/3rds full of castings at which point you start feeding the worm food into the top bin. As the worms run out of food in the middle bin they will naturally migrate into the top bin leaving you with fresh castings in the middle bin. Once the majority of the worms have migrated you simply empty the bottom bin into your soil mix storage and it becomes your top bin with the lid firmly snapped on. If you keep up on your system weekly you'll always have fresh castings, probably more than you know what to do with. Fortunately they go great on your lawn, in your flower beds and wherever else anything grows.

The worm food recipe I plan to use comes out of the "Total living organics" book and is as follows.

Worm food

Start with about 2 gallons of moist food scraps
Add the following every other time you feed or so (In addition to the 2 gallons of moist scraps)

4 cups perlite
1-2 cups of well-rinsed coconut coir
1 tablespoon greensand
2 tablespoons crushed or ground oyster shell
1 tablespoon granular rock phosphate
1/4 cup all organic alfalfa pellets
2 tablespoons kelp
2 tablespoons humate (Humic acid ore shale)
Plenty of dried and shredded cannabis leaves, stems and roots
2 cups shredded junk mail/paper
 

Redbird1223

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Also check out black soldier flies......soooo badass!

adult bsf dont have mouths so they don't bite or puke on you, and don't spread germs.
adults are territorial and will drive out fruit flies
if you let them grow to adult size, the shell left behind is organic calcium
...and if not, free chicken/ tilapia food.....all they want is scraps! its like a worm/fly yin/yang!

[video=youtube_share;BnfkW4WgtG8]http://youtu.be/BnfkW4WgtG8[/video]
 

Rrog

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There are sooo many beneficial creatures we can deploy. Predatory wasps, mites, nematodes, bacteria. We should all raise some of this or know someone that does. Crazy to pay big prices for this stuff
 

ottawaliquid

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Wow I like this.. looks easy.. but i have a few questions if you don't mind...

1. do worms ever go in the bottom bin? Do you just allow them to migrate between the two bottom bins (drain bin and "active" bin) Or is it just for draining excess water? Do you put any medium into the bottom drain bin?

Sorry I've never used a vermicomposter.

Also are you able to use this outdoors in Ontario winters? Or are you keeping this inside? Just curious if the worms could survive the winter in a worm composter (I realize they would likely be very inactive)
 

theQuetzalcoatl

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Wow I like this.. looks easy.. but i have a few questions if you don't mind...

1. do worms ever go in the bottom bin? Do you just allow them to migrate between the two bottom bins (drain bin and "active" bin) Or is it just for draining excess water? Do you put any medium into the bottom drain bin?

Sorry I've never used a vermicomposter.

Also are you able to use this outdoors in Ontario winters? Or are you keeping this inside? Just curious if the worms could survive the winter in a worm composter (I realize they would likely be very inactive)
They don't like it below 55f so no outdoors in winter. I'll be keeping mine either in the laundry room or in the crawl space. I havent decided which yet. The bottom bin actually catches what they call a "leachate tea" You simply dilute it 20-1 with pure water and use it as a top notch fertilizer. Excess you can pour back into the top of the worm farm to be absorbed. it's full of microlife and other goodness. I'm sure some worms will drop into the bottom bin, I'll just fish em out periodically and drop em back in the top. The bottom bin is for collection only, so no medium in it just wormy goodness.

Edit, no need to apologize for questions. I'm new to the worm farm too but I'll do my best to answer when I can.
 

theQuetzalcoatl

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Don't wait too long. It takes time to build up a useful amount of castings. Even starting now I won't have enough in time to do my soil mix. I'm going to have to buy 50 lbs or so. After this year however I expect to have a surplus of live castings. Something that is very difficult to source in Canada for some reason.
 

Redbird1223

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do you think there is enough holes for the worms to move back and forth? I wanted to make one like this once with hundreds of holes in the bottoms, but was afraid of the bottom giving out once it's full. kick ass write up

I always thought milk crates would be the perfect DIY worm bins if I could figure out how to seal the sides up good. (for outdoor use)
they're a good size, waterproof, durable, stackable
i thought of of melting/smearing the sides with a torch, but that sounds deadly. my simplest idea was to suran wrap them individually

@ottowa i bet if you moved it to a garage/shed or greenhouse in the winter, it would help
 

theQuetzalcoatl

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do you think there is enough holes for the worms to move back and forth? I wanted to make one like this once with hundreds of holes in the bottoms, but was afraid of the bottom giving out once it's full. kick ass write up

I always thought milk crates would be the perfect DIY worm bins if I could figure out how to seal the sides up good. (for outdoor use)
they're a good size, waterproof, durable, stackable
i thought of of melting/smearing the sides with a torch, but that sounds deadly. my simplest idea was to suran wrap them individually

@ottowa i bet if you moved it to a garage/shed or greenhouse in the winter, it would help
Every single tutorial I've read by people who worm farm for a living say 8 1/4th inch holes. I probably have too many believe it or not. I can't see there being a simpler solution than these Rubbermaid's. They're tough as hell, cheap and easy to replace in singles because they're consistently identical.
 
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