silverfox420
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I'm interested in useing some molasses but do not know amount to use, when, or if even good to mix with current nutrients? Using ff now 3tsp bb. 3tsp tb half tsp cc. Thanks
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1 tablespoon per gallon is already a full powered feed in my opinion. I only use it in bloom though I'm sure the plant and soil would benefit in veg. Double to 2 tablespoons per gallon in bloom sounds excessive but i have never pushed it so it may be just fine.
The plant can absorb very small amounts of the sugars directly which is great. It will also benefit from the trace elements in the molasses. I love using it and would never say don't test stronger doses. However I say go slow and watch the reaction until you learn how everything is working together.
Ofcourse another benefit will be the feeding of the micro organisms in your coco or soil as well.
I hope you are only buying organic and unsulphered molasses.
Good points, I forgot to mention only use unsulphered. It's hard to overdose with molasses, but I'm sure it's possible. Doubleing in bloom is good for your buds as they need the extra energy to get big and fat and can also impart a sugary taste and sweet aroma.
intenseneal
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Yeah 1 tbs is heavy IMO. Start with 1/2tsp per gallon half way into flower (week 4) and slowly increase it to 1/2tbs.
trippinoff8ball
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molasses only really makes a difference if your growing organically
MYOB
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and why is that?
ganjarules106
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bump i am having a probs with molasses to im only using a small amount in a 500ml bottle every other time i have used it all my fan leaves die
Because if your not growing organically, you probably don't have a microbe population to feed on and break down those sugars so your plant can use them.
intenseneal
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LOL that is funny. Unless you are sterilizing the soil on the regular ie peroxide, then there is microbes in the soil no matter what type of nutes you use. Microbes and bacteria naturally occur in soil and in compost (which is how most soils are made)
Ganjarules molasses will not hurt the plant in any way unless you are way way over dosing it. All it is is sugars that feed the microbes and bacteria in the to help break down nutes into a form the plants can easily use and take in threw the roots. Also on the plus side molasses has shown to increase yields, smell and taste of the flowers. There must be something else going on causing your plant to loose leafs.
Ganjarules molasses will not hurt the plant in any way unless you are way way over dosing it. All it is is sugars that feed the microbes and bacteria in the to help break down nutes into a form the plants can easily use and take in threw the roots. Also on the plus side molasses has shown to increase yields, smell and taste of the flowers. There must be something else going on causing your plant to loose leafs.
smellzlikeskunkyum
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Molasses is great if u use the right kind... unsulphured ORGANIC molasses. i buy the Wholesome Sweetners brand at meijers in MI.
never more than 1-2 tbs per gallon of water imo. start off with less at first, more like 1/2 tbs per gallon. outdoor you can up it quite a bit more.
never give a ton at once, it can attract bad things like bugs and mold. plus it can make your soil sticky if u dont do it right.
never more than 1-2 tbs per gallon of water imo. start off with less at first, more like 1/2 tbs per gallon. outdoor you can up it quite a bit more.
never give a ton at once, it can attract bad things like bugs and mold. plus it can make your soil sticky if u dont do it right.
smellzlikeskunkyum
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most of your good "organic" nutes have molasses in them, like roots organics. it contains a bunch of different nutes when u get the right molasses, calcium, mag, iron, b6, potassium, etc... GRANDMAS MOLASSES IS NOT THE SAME. that is processed and the nutes are different. and it may contain sulphur or high levels of salt/sodium. its worth every penny of 7 bux to get the good shit. at meijer it is near the sugar alternatives, like agave and such. the gramas molasses is usually near the pancake syrup, and it should be... two different "molasessessess" or whatever u want to say!
Your right, I meant if your not growing in organic soil. You could be useing a sterilized medium or something inert like rockwool.
intenseneal
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I use Grandmas Organic unsulphured molasses with good results and no issues. You need to use natural organic unsulphured molasses. They are all the same one brand is not any better than the other, it is all made from the same ingredients and the same way. JME
Moldy
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I never use more than 1 teaspoon per gallon as it can lock out nitrogen uptake "as I've heard". I've seen it yellow my fan leaves at 1 tablespoon so I don't add as much or as often. Everyother watering only and I use Blackstrap which is organic.
http://forahealthyfuture.com/nutrition/blackstrap-molasses/
http://forahealthyfuture.com/nutrition/blackstrap-molasses/
chuck estevez
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Disagree, If your using synthetic nutes, the soil is not favorable for microbes to grow and the plant becomes dependent on those synthetics. Here is the first paragraph from the book 'Teaming with Microbes"
Smart gardeners know that soil is anything but an inert substance. Healthy soil is teeming with life not just earthworms and insects, but a staggering multitude of bacteria, fungi, and other microorganisms. When we use chemical fertilizers, we injure the microbial life that sustains healthy plants and become increasingly dependent on an arsenal of artificial, often toxic, substances. But there is an alternative to this vicious cycle. We can garden in a way that strengthens the soil food web the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.
highfirejones
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I can't attribute a healthy plant to 1 ingredient but I dud use brer rabbit organic molasses on some healthy plants, 1tspn/gal every 2 or 3 waterings to help out my mycos and what not
I think I gave 1tbspn 2 or 3 times in flower, good buds
I think I gave 1tbspn 2 or 3 times in flower, good buds
zack66
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I used molasses on my last run with one plant. Fed it through all of flower. It was the only plant out of six that yellowed. The buds were no difference in size. Not sure on the taste yet, they are still curing. As earlier mentioned lot's of nutes already have molasses in them. Cal- mag for instance is loaded with it. I won't use it again except to help foam up my teas.
intenseneal
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Organic or synthetic nutes they all work the same. The plants and bacteria dont know the difference. The problem you can run into with synthetic nutes is a build up of salts in the soil. Again there will be bacteria in soil no matter what. It comes from the soil itself, the water you put in it, from the air around you even the nutes will have some bacteria in them. Bacteria is everywhere. Can you hurt the bacteria population in the soil? Yes you can by dosing too much nutes, under watering, over watering, H2O2 ect. But good luck sterilizing soil. Soils are made up of many different components mostly natural like worm casting, guano, composted foods and animal waste (manure) and then is composted itself. Composting in itself is a bacterial process.