Why are dj short genetics so expensive?

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Bonequicha

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I mean all of that money can't funnel into research in development because he hasnt put out a new strain in years, seems a little greedy to me even if you cut his prices in half, im not quarreling that his strains arent any good, i look to them specifically to find variegated genotypes but to me thats all their worth

anyone know what these breeders do with all the cash? im kinda tired of people who care more about making money than the joy they get out of creating something useful for generations to come

i think that some breeders dont understand what it means to give back to the community, or that they are preying on growers who they know have alot of cash.

how many seeds does one full size plant produce anyways?
 
Shivaskunk

Shivaskunk

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I fully seeded a 42 inch tall female. Counted out 500 seeds then weighed them. Took the rest of the seeds and weighed them so my number isn't completely accurate as I didn't count every sees but I had approx 6000 fully formed mature seeds.
 
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Bonequicha

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BBbubblegum said:
The real questions is : What is a full size plant?
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a plant grown to full maturity between 3 and 5 feet tall respectfully,

thanks to everyone who had a positive answer, this post was merely to point out that vegetable seeds pack of 20 costs like 4 dollars and pack of mmj seeds costs like 100 see what im sayin?

kinda seems like a monopoly, it's not that hard to put a production room into full scale seed and thats many seeds

i just see an even bigger opportunity for them to supply in numbers rather than being greedy and who cares if the profit margin suffers its not really about that anyways, o well when will they ever learn?
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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What do you expect, did you ever think that maybe there was aprofit motive? Are cannabis breeders(real ones like dj) who don't outsource their seed production more likely to charge mor eper seed becaus eof limited space/production to meet demand? How about this fresh fart, "DJ Shorts seeds are expensive because of the parent's he uses are ibl's that lack the vigor of polyhybrids and can only produce so few seeds". Try starting a seed company, wait, try breeding quality cannabis first and then tell us what you inten dto charge for the seeds. Get back to me when you do. Because i'm not broke, but i still wouldn't pay dogies nuts prices.(those are expensive)
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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Shivaskunk said:
I fully seeded a 42 inch tall female. Counted out 500 seeds then weighed them. Took the rest of the seeds and weighed them so my number isn't completely accurate as I didn't count every sees but I had approx 6000 fully formed mature seeds.
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By that count at current prices of beans if your in the biz 5-6000 beans... 1 plant @ $10 a bean is $50-60 k



you can make more off seeds than you can off the bud from 1 plant...sad just sad

they chargin $10 a bean and more ....... should be $1 a bean :finger:
 
TrippingHippie.seeds

TrippingHippie.seeds

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a 2 foot tall plant will have thousands of seeds, 1200 if you pollonated to soon, 6000-7000 if done at the right time.

4 diffent strains 5000 seeds each = 20,000 seeds now they sell them to the seed banks for $5 a seed. That is $100K from a 4x4 grow tent.
 
silverhazefiend

silverhazefiend

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that's what u make yourself believe when ur spending all that cash ...believe what u want ..@ omg indica man

People start throwing botany words around and people eat this shit right up .."IBl" "poly hybrid" etc etc ..Makes u sound smart .and right after u sound smart people start to lose u and so "oh well he must kno what he's talking about " ..smh

I could careless what someone wants to charge for there seeds I don't have to but them ..but I do care when people come on here tryna justify the high prices with bullshit claims ...

Dj short bb is used is SO many strains today ..and anybody that has few real blueberry knos the shit is a Alien and throws mutat plants and mutations regularly ..don't tell me I'm paying 150$ for that shit ..ur "IBl"

I don't kno why some people choose to charge so much ..I think it's a defensive measure ..just don't kno for who ??? Cause at that price I will not be buying them ..so I guess it's to stop me lol
 
Sativasfied

Sativasfied

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Bonequicha said:
kinda seems like a monopoly,
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mo·nop·o·ly

[muh-nop-uh-lee]

noun, plural mo·nop·o·lies.

1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. Compare duopoly, oligopoly.
2. an exclusive privilege to carry on a business, traffic, or service, granted by a government.
3. the exclusive possession or control of something.
4. something that is the subject of such control, as a commodity or service.
5. a company or group that has such control.

Now if DJ had the only blueberry strain, then yes, he would have a monopoly. I think what you are referring to is that he has a "good thing" going on.

There are many seed breeders who care about genetics, and it shows through their works, writings, workshops etc. DJ is one of those breeders. There are more who don't care than care, and that experience and passion alone is worth the $ for many.
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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I had the DJ BB and it wasn't all that... reminded me of a bubba.... short indica pheno

Ill take my pre98 over that any day :)
 
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Bonequicha

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Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:
What do you expect, did you ever think that maybe there was aprofit motive? Are cannabis breeders(real ones like dj) who don't outsource their seed production more likely to charge mor eper seed becaus eof limited space/production to meet demand? How about this fresh fart, "DJ Shorts seeds are expensive because of the parent's he uses are ibl's that lack the vigor of polyhybrids and can only produce so few seeds". Try starting a seed company, wait, try breeding quality cannabis first and then tell us what you inten dto charge for the seeds. Get back to me when you do. Because i'm not broke, but i still wouldn't pay dogies nuts prices.(those are expensive)
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im not sure you understand. at all
any breeder who charges more than 3$ per seed before retail markup needs a punch in the jaw, i liked companies like growdoc who made high quality strains for cheap prices because they knew the people that really needed them couldnt afford outrageuosness
thats now what cannabis is about, i think you may need to get off the forums and go smoke one.
Deep purple is better than dj's ibls anyway

when a strain is ibl'd further than the point of need be a breeder can never put out the same product twice... go on try again
 
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Bonequicha

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Sativasfied said:
mo·nop·o·ly

[muh-nop-uh-lee]

noun, plural mo·nop·o·lies.

1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. Compare duopoly, oligopoly.
2. an exclusive privilege to carry on a business, traffic, or service, granted by a government.
3. the exclusive possession or control of something.
4. something that is the subject of such control, as a commodity or service.
5. a company or group that has such control.

Now if DJ had the only blueberry strain, then yes, he would have a monopoly. I think what you are referring to is that he has a "good thing" going on.

There are many seed breeders who care about genetics, and it shows through their works, writings, workshops etc. DJ is one of those breeders. There are more who don't care than care, and that experience and passion alone is worth the $ for many.
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price gouging/monopoly only an asshole would take his time to go to an online dictionary to prove he can distinguish the difference between the 2

true passion does not = $, ask jesus
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Deep purple isn close to as good as blueberry, ive grown nearly all of subcools offerings and the deep purple was by far the , slowest vegging plant ive ever gotten, the potency was weaker than the querkle he offers and the flavour imo is not as good either, its just more uniform in urkle pheno's which grow like mollasses. Dj is a private breeder and has been breeding longer than most, if he wanted to go commercial mass production he could've been like dinafem and greenhouse or nirvana and outsourced his seed production. Best guess is he keeps it limited an duses the tools he knows/crafted himself.
 
silverhazefiend

silverhazefiend

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I'm not saying it's BAD ..I just said its used it ALOT of crosses ..so it must mean something ..but why is that mutant plant worth 150$ ?? That was the orginal question the op had ..why do the beans cost so much ?

These answers that are given still dont justify the cost of those beans ..and most people agree150$ is alot for some beans

Honestly I think there is no answer to justify the cost ..it really comes down to supply and demand ..u want real deal blueberry u gotta pay 150$....the end
Lol
 
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