Why are dj short genetics so expensive?

Bonequicha said:

I mean all of that money can't funnel into research in development because he hasnt put out a new strain in years, seems a little greedy to me even if you cut his prices in half, im not quarreling that his strains arent any good, i look to them specifically to find variegated genotypes but to me thats all their worth

anyone know what these breeders do with all the cash? im kinda tired of people who care more about making money than the joy they get out of creating something useful for generations to come

i think that some breeders dont understand what it means to give back to the community, or that they are preying on growers who they know have alot of cash.

how many seeds does one full size plant produce anyways?

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well it is apparent that the market supports the pricing structure and he is in business to make a profit and never claimed to be a charitable organization...your question is as ludicrous as asking why does Rolex charge so much for their watches...simple...because they can and the market supports it....

And what is wrong with him making profit or hell even getting rich? Maybe you should look to the CEO of pFizer who makes $18,000,000 for running a company that POISONS people?

And if it really bothers you then why don't YOU get setup to grow thousands of plants and create better strains and sell enough to cover cost and pay yourself oh lets say $1000/wk and give away the rest of the seeds to indigent mmj patients who grow for themselves? Or take lets say 30% of your income and buy seeds for them now? Well until you do, shut the fuck up

I cant believe that in your 6 years on the forum this was pertinent enough to you to start a thread for apparently the first time? Yeah boy you sure are giving back to the community.

vow of silence til 1k a week and what else master?

ill do anything you say just dont post another picture of someone and say haters gonna hate

you really are the most knowledgable person on here and we should all take a page from your book and make 100 posts a month with memes all with the homogenous idea of greed and gluttony until our consciences bleed

your right i hate dj short, i absolutely hate him, i despise him?

Sativasfied said:

Thanks for clearing that up. I heard from those that attended that it was well worth their time.


Curious why the op has singled out DJ exclusively, all of his strains are under $130 for ten regs. Why not gripe about Dr. Greenthumb with his 5 fem seeds for $150, or 2 fem G13 for $200. Doggies Nuts Seeds are crazy priced, 2x or 3x DJ's prices. The Doggies Nuts Seeds Armageddon x Sirius Skunk is $740.92 for 10 fem beans, 10 regs cost $428 but they're sold out.

The thread is titled Why Are DJ Shorts Genetics So Expensive. OP have you grown his genetics? Disappointed with them? Were they not worth the money? What's up?

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noone buys the doggies nuts anymore,previously called pukka seeds and now are called cream of the crop seeds.complete rip off.

Bonequicha said:

price gouging/monopoly only an asshole would take his time to go to an online dictionary to prove he can distinguish the difference between the 2

true passion does not = $, ask jesus

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now why would I ask a dead man a question...you're a hypochristian...Now it all makes sense

Kite High said:

well it is apparent that the market supports the pricing structure and he is in business to make a profit and never claimed to be a charitable organization...your question is as ludicrous as asking why does Rolex charge so much for their watches...simple...because they can and the market supports it....

And what is wrong with him making profit or hell even getting rich? Maybe you should look to the CEO of pFizer who makes $18,000,000 for running a company that POISONS people?

And if it really bothers you then why don't YOU get setup to grow thousands of plants and create better strains and sell enough to cover cost and pay yourself oh lets say $1000/wk and give away the rest of the seeds to indigent mmj patients who grow for themselves? Or take lets say 30% of your income and buy seeds for them now? Well until you do, shut the fuck up

I cant believe that in your 6 years on the forum this was pertinent enough to you to start a thread for apparently the first time? Yeah boy you sure are giving back to the community.

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arjan is that you?

Bonequicha said:

vow of silence til 1k a week and what else master?

ill do anything you say just dont post another picture of someone and say haters gonna hate

you really are the most knowledgable person on here and we should all take a page from your book and make 100 posts a month with memes all with the homogenous idea of greed and gluttony until our consciences bleed

your right i hate dj short, i absolutely hate him, i despise him?

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and heres how I feel about your JESUS

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Kite High said:

now why would I ask a dead man a question...you're a hypochristian...Now it all makes sense

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if i need to explain to you the ideals of religion your in the wrong place buddy, but you can send me a pm if you wish to learn?
namecalling seems a bit immature, doesnt it?

Lmao @ that picture ..

Sometimes we need to step back and asses the discussion ..I like when. A decent point Is made and I can find some humor in the thread ..

Guys are taking this to personal ..DJ is doing fine ..and I highly doubt he's gonna lose any sleep over this ..so no need to take the thread down the rabbit hole


Like I said b4 it's supply and demand at the end of the day ..blueberry is prolly the second most whored out strain next to skunk #1 ..for a good reason ..dj can charge whatever he likes ..it would be nice to see a price break once on a while or even a another cheaper offering so more people can try his beans ..but hey we can only hope

I've been eyeing cocoa kush for 2 months now ..I need that one ! Lol

When medications like Folotyn, which treats a rare type of lymphoma and costs $30,000 per month are out there, it just seems like $150 for 10 seeds is a bargain if you can get one good plant out of the pack that will help you medicinally.

Noble quest on the cross, best of luck, have always heard and read that if working with his blueberry expect a hermi to pop out from time to time.

I've never bought a pack of DJ's seeds in case you were curious, but the best blueberry I have sampled was selected from his packs.

Bonequicha said:

if i need to explain to you the ideals of religion your in the wrong place buddy, but you can send me a pm if you wish to learn?
namecalling seems a bit immature, doesnt it?

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who's name calling? YOU brought up JESUS which makes you a hypochristian...period...you are a jealous hater ...and this supposed expertise of yours is what?

I know the dogma...here since you seem to grasp pictures better than linguisitcs

Considering the history of DJ Short and his genetics he's given plenty back to the "community".

Kite High said:

who's name calling? YOU brought up JESUS which makes you a hypochristian...period...you are a jealous hater ...and this supposed expertise of yours is what?

I know the dogma...here since you seem to grasp pictures better than linguisitcs

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wrong place for a religious discussion dude, wanna keep posting religious stuff here be my guest but you should probably read the entire thread before posting something you know nothing about, if we were in person and you actively listened to the conversation in this thread before you arrived youd probably be eating your words right now

if you really think passion = $ then be prepared to live a sad empty life and i pray for you, hopefully in time you will learn that if you are going to waste your physical time on this earth, you should probably be working towards a positive common goal, rather than trying to tear it down

your soul is in a dark place right now my friend i hope all is best for you in the rest of your life

if this thread discouraged anyone from buying dj genetics then they probably could'nt afford them anyways

i appologize if i offended anyone this certainly was not my goal, i hope i didnt hurt anyones feelings. And i hope portions of this conversation can give an insight to the informed consumer regarding the value and prices of seed offerings today including but not limited to DJ short seeds.

I read the thread and you jumped into jesus...I love my life..I am retires for quite a while now made my $$$ establishing companies then seling them for profit...I now grow and test strains for a couple of dispensaries and then advise them how to bring up their quality...am paid handsomely for it and donate all I grow and test for them to indigent mmj patients ...I grow in another climate room paid for by me for myself and being I prefer sativas and the mmj patients indicas I give them all the indicas and grow sativas at my expense for myself

See I do give back but I also made sure I am financially securer and for you to down someone for earning $$$ for their efforts then that is unchristian...iow hypochristian...if this not the place for religion or your Jesus then why did you bring him up?

And what are you giving to the community mr. hater?

I am quite happy and my spirit soars...pray for yourself...you need it..I am fine

Bonequicha said:

yeah you should have a winner there, kinda sounds similar to the raspberry cough strain nirvana made its a real good smoke i believe its cambodian landrace x ICE, yours sounds very similar, the hybrid should make it able to grow indoors with an easier timeframe in minde, but im more referring to an f1 consisting of 2 landraces and not an indoor landrace/skunk f1

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oh you mean such as this...my next run

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An excellent Zamal mother selected for its trippy effect, fast flowering and remarkable sweet carrot and floral fragrances, was pollinated by the powerful Malawi 'killer' mum in order to create Zamaldelica, a new super sativa hybrid of terrific lysergic effect and amazing vigorous growth.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]100 % sativa F1 hybrid. Zamal x Malawi killer.[/TD]
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i was kinda reffering to plants that combine old world and new world
ie: asian X south american
not 2 landraces from the same continent, but im sure its not terrible anything of ace seeds usually never is, im doing something with their erdpurt and gonna buy a pack from herbies before they are sold out like on pick n mix

i wonder what an african x asian
or african x south american would look like sure would be ineteresting

Bonequicha said:

I've done blueberry descendants like lowberry from dutchbreed, im working autos and would like to bring dutchbreeds lowberry a gen 2 auto to gen 3 before making a final fourth cross to another genotype, im just trying to lock down more blueberry to be available in the final cross aswell as being an autoflower, i plan on purchasing a 10 pk of cocoa kush and vanilluna, select for variegated phenotypes cross the the lowberry inbreed til full auto then make my final cross. Im sure for my purposes they are worth they money, as i would probably pay double(but dont tell him that) I see DJ as being the most overrated for the price, i think the ratio of quality : price is way out of whack and that seeds shouldnt cost the customer more than 3$ per, not because i can't afford the more expensive seeds, but because i know there are people out there that can barely afford their medicine. and with people like dj charging and arm and a leg to people that literally dont have an arm or a leg seems morally unjustifiable, i hope this in depth explanation of my purposes satisfies your quandries

humbly yours,
your bitch

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wtf you mention crossing landraces then divulge you are making worthless suck ass autos? And you want good genes from a ten pack...you are an absolute bafoon if you think you can possibly find elite genetics from a ten pack for breeding purposes....you couldn't pay me $100 to even grow your crap with that lack of skill and knowledge you're displaying...yep you're a hater...and worry not I asm done with you

have an awesome existence

as long as i can find a variegated pheno of each vanilluna and cocoa kush i am a happy man, this is the trait i am most intreagued in finding, and if DJs genetics are worth the price in the 1st place it shouldn't be hard to find something worthy of replication in the f1 seedrun of each, where i will have more to select from, but yes ill let you walk away with an undeserved sense of self accomplishment, that is if you can accept this criticism i will never hear from you again

maybe next time you offer helpful advice rather than trying to mirror your insecurities onto an online forum

you win

i have grown 5 of his strains, loved them all. his stock grows best with low nutes "cheaper". holding mothers and working lines for 20yrs cost $$ and it is risky. Grow your $3 a seed and when you look at the 6 months all your expensive equipment/power took to get low quality bud it will hit you. dr.gt swerve and others that put very little time/effort into strains that hermie charge more. show off your cheap stuff so you can teach ppl how to do it. show us how you created a blueberry line kept itfor decades and want to share it with everyone for $3. I win the stanley cup on my couch every yr, simple.

plants can produce upto 50,000 seeds in 1 go..

Bonequicha said:

a plant grown to full maturity between 3 and 5 feet tall respectfully,

thanks to everyone who had a positive answer, this post was merely to point out that vegetable seeds pack of 20 costs like 4 dollars and pack of mmj seeds costs like 100 see what im sayin?

kinda seems like a monopoly, it's not that hard to put a production room into full scale seed and thats many seeds

i just see an even bigger opportunity for them to supply in numbers rather than being greedy and who cares if the profit margin suffers its not really about that anyways, o well when will they ever learn?

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When you start selling vegetables for 10-20 bucks a gram, their seeds will go up in price as well.

Not that I am defending DJ prices, I personally wouldnt spend the money on it. His name is big because he did some good work many years ago. Plenty of strains just as good for much cheaper these days.