FinShaggy's BeanSprouts

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Finshaggy

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Fin your missing the point of a control lol.. A control would be to grow a mother and pick clones from her..
You are missing my entire timeframe. My only way to possibly have a control is to have gotten clones at some point, which I still may do if I find a way.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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1) It will be better when I am closer to harvest, and when I make hash. Right now is just the "Troll Fanfare" or whatever you would call that. When I start doing shit it will be a lot more, and a lot better stuff :) As well as rally stuff :) (2) Not "to save money", because I "didn't have enough money". (3) I have been moving a lot, and I am in Colorado now (snowing now). Outdoor hasn't been as option in like 3 years. But maybe this year...
yes moving around would make outdoor growing difficult. sry to hear that. hope its cool where u are now. it honestly should be snowing here in MI too, hah.
are you just using "bagseed" atm? its how i got started... helped teach me a thing or two before i shell any of my hard earned $$ towards genetics. id still be relying on bagseeds if i didnt end up with so many hermies indoor from them. i still try to use them outdoor tho, ive never had any hermies outdoor so far. thank goodness.
 

brewer7

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You are missing my entire timeframe. My only way to possibly have a control is to have gotten clones at some point, which I still may do if I find a way.
Even if you buy clones at some point, it will mean nothing in regards to your experiments on your current plants. The only way you can draw any valid conclusion is to grow identical plants, not similar plants, or just another plant, but identical plants. Grow some in an optimal accepted growing method. Grow the others with your weird "stress techniques." Then compare the results.

You could have grown a mother and taken some clones already in your time frame. Piss poor planning makes your experiments meaningless.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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I was just reading something about the banana peels along with no stress the 3rd and 4th week of veg for a higher female to male ratio.
I have never seen a male either now that I think about it. My first time growing (5 years ago) I planted 10 regular Nirvana big bud seeds and they all ended up female.

I use to do the banana religion, Put ripening bananas in with your seedlings for the first few weeks of life and the bananas release Ethylene gasses which have been shown to encourage plants to grow female.

I have no idea if this is true or not, It could have just been luck that I ended up with all females. But 10 out of 10 made me have some faith in it.



wow i never knew this... for some reason i get SO many more males than females outta reg seeds. ugh... ive gone thru 7 nirvana papaya's w.o a single female. went thru about 4 afghan seeds back in 2004 from nirvana no females. got one female BB x NL. only damn reg seed ive ever had go female come to think of it. i have a couple psycho killers from the breeders boutique that im hoping are female, we shall see if i finally make it past one female.
 

Totoe

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Also clones themselves would make a shitty control group. The best way to structure this for a study would be to take a single mother plant and make atleast twenty clones from it. Then make ten clones the experimental group, and ten more clones the control group. This would control for genetic variation. I mean, if hes growing FinShaggy buttbomb indica and uses a control group of kali mist clones, the genetic variation alone would include so many variables that the experiment would be shit science.
 

brewer7

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He has 6 control plants already. Unless he was just lying..
LOL.

In his first video, he was talking about his plants, saying something like, "That one looks like an indica, the rest of them look like sativas or hybrids. That one's got some fat round leaves."

Even IF this mysterious control group exists, it would be a very shitty control since he's got some mixed bag genetics going on.
 

dbkick

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wow i never knew this... for some reason i get SO many more males than females outta reg seeds. ugh... ive gone thru 7 nirvana papaya's w.o a single female. went thru about 4 afghan seeds back in 2004 from nirvana no females. got one female BB x NL. only damn reg seed ive ever had go female come to think of it. i have a couple psycho killers from the breeders boutique that im hoping are female, we shall see if i finally make it past one female.
dunno how much truth is here and the dude that wrote it up doesn't seem real well with english BUT he certainly seems to know a lot about growing weed.
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/how-to-improve-female-male-ratio-of-cannabis-plant.html
 

Mechanical

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He has 6 control plants already. Unless he was just lying..
LOL.

In his first video, he was talking about his plants, saying something like, "That one looks like an indica, the rest of them look like sativas or hybrids. That one's got some fat round leaves."

Even IF this mysterious control group exists, it would be a very shitty control since he's got some mixed bag genetics going on.
I'm sure he doesn't. He will probably say something like they are at someone else's house or in another room now that his lie is called out. That would make them even further from a control. I just can't wait till he says something about it lol.
 

Mechanical

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Very nice db!! If those were his I'd say "well fuck he knows what hes doing" and never post in here again.. Unfortunately you can see his other grows and know there is no way he can produce gorgeous plants like those!!
 

Finshaggy

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The only way you can draw any valid conclusion is to grow identical plants, not similar plants, or just another plant, but identical plants.
You are very mistaken. In your "perfect world" everyone just has a mother plant, and has no need to ever grow any other strain. I'm sorry, but I don't just plan on stressing plants, I plan on breeding them as well. Meaning for the next 10-30 years, I'm not going to have much of the same IDENTICAL plants EVER. :lol:
 
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