9.00 minimum wage is not enough...

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
oh, i'm sorry. your information comes from ricardo alonso-zaldivar, contributor to theantiobamablog.com, whose fellow contributors include freedomworks, theblaze, the john birch society, and WND.

how could it not be the most pure and credible info ever? :lol:

http://antiobamablog.com/author/ricardo-alonso-zaldivar/

and you and him predicate your whole argument on "could be" and give two examples not related to the overwhelming majority of the insurance buying public.

i'll hold off on calling you a cunt, but you know i'm thinking it.
Problem for you is... It doesn't change the facts does it? NOPE, it doesn't. I'm waiting for that apology.
 

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
oh, i'm sorry. your information comes from ricardo alonso-zaldivar, contributor to theantiobamablog.com, whose fellow contributors include freedomworks, theblaze, the john birch society, and WND.

how could it not be the most pure and credible info ever? :lol:

http://antiobamablog.com/author/ricardo-alonso-zaldivar/

and you and him predicate your whole argument on "could be" and give two examples not related to the overwhelming majority of the insurance buying public.

i'll hold off on calling you a cunt, but you know i'm thinking it.
That's what you do. You behave like a little boy, you pout and call names- so very like you.
 

silasraven

Well-Known Member
are you insane. that is enough for anyone to make a good wage off of. i lived off making 7.25 and hour for my first place. id like more than 9 for mim wage, it would be a lot better.
 

silasraven

Well-Known Member
I think we should consider the role of women in society from www.islam.com
What do you think winter woman?
role of women ,,,, hmm let me think. gross purly gross, most assume the wife role the first chance they get and then wine that they dont get treated fairly. since time began women were pushed to the side because they let themselves get pushed aside. Take over women and let the house be split in 2. half for man to take care of and half for women. both cook,clean, work, shop, take care of the house,ect. change the idea of role in general and things will get better
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
are you insane. that is enough for anyone to make a good wage off of. i lived off making 7.25 and hour for my first place. id like more than 9 for mim wage, it would be a lot better.

Kinda depends on where you live doesn't it? If I am in an area where the cheapest place I can rent is a thousand dollars, then seven bucks and a quarter won't cut it if I want to eat as well.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Problem for you is... It doesn't change the facts does it? NOPE, it doesn't. I'm waiting for that apology.

Looks like Obama care will foot at least part of the bill for smoking cessation programs. Smoking is a choice, smoking costs society, why should I have to pay for someone elses dangerous habit? I don't care where information comes from, it is opinions that are suspect depending upon where they emminate.

Of course, of late, news sources have been known to distort the truth and unfortunately we have seen more of this distortion on the right than on the left and so just on this basis, sometimes rightists sources, especially ones that are funded by very self serving groups or individuals, can be suspect.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Looks like Obama care will foot at least part of the bill for smoking cessation programs. Smoking is a choice, smoking costs society, why should I have to pay for someone elses dangerous habit? I don't care where information comes from, it is opinions that are suspect depending upon where they emminate.

Of course, of late, news sources have been known to distort the truth and unfortunately we have seen more of this distortion on the right than on the left and so just on this basis, sometimes rightists sources, especially ones that are funded by very self serving groups or individuals, can be suspect.
So is fucking which is more dangerous and costly than smoking. What about professional athletes? Military volunteers? Drug users? Wanting a social program with bias is a good fucking start yes?
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
So is fucking which is more dangerous and costly than smoking. What about professional athletes? Military volunteers? Drug users? Wanting a social program with bias is a good fucking start yes?

You are going to have to show me numbers with that fucking > dangerous than smoking.

This "why should I have to pay" has been the constant moan of the right since Obama care started being talked about, so how is my asking "why should I pay for a smoker" any different than someone saying "why should I have to pay for his care".


There are other ways to deal with smokers than raising their rates. Professional athletes can afford individual private insurance, the military has always provided for their own (well sort of) and they should continue to do so.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member

canndo

Well-Known Member

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Don't know where you are headed. A big enough pool should take care of everything - and that was the original point.
You know damn well where I am headed but the socialist in you is setting alarms off. The people you're so desperately trying to help is the ones that causing the cluster fuck to begin with. This is the socialist flaw.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
You know damn well where I am headed but the socialist in you is setting alarms off. The people you're so desperately trying to help is the ones that causing the cluster fuck to begin with. This is the socialist flaw.

Lay it out for me nonthiest, the socialist in me is slowing me down.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Increasing the minimum wage is retarded, it causes real inflation and nobody ends up any better off.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Yes reducing wages works much better
I'm not arguing against a minimum wage, but increases have to be carefully thought out so as not the screw the very people you're trying to make better off.

Its a numbers thing Chesus, stop being a little bitch.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Increasing the minimum wage is retarded, it causes real inflation and nobody ends up any better off.
We all know that in the long run Federal minimum wage laws don't help the working poor, but in the short run it does and we currently are forced to deal in the very short term.
 
Top