drolove
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haha ya we dont even like that month. especially not now!and we give them the shortest month
"Colored only" after school tutoring
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I really hate that excuse, "set back"...get oger it already, we're sorry! Things are much different now, everyone has an equal opportunity now, and these kids who use this to act out (not saying this is the situation here, prolly just a statistics a thing).
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Stop living in the past..
UncleBuck
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it's not over. the legacy lives on in de facto segregated neighborhoods, low SES, and unequal access to opportunity.
it's not called an excuse, it's called the result and the reality of hundreds of years of treating one set of humans as subhuman.
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So it's all about were you're born then? I just know when I was in school, alot of black people that lives in the suburbs with better homes than me use that excuse, THOSE are the kind of people I'm talking about, and there's poor white kids too with the same limited opportunities.
UncleBuck
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i'm not talking about your anecdotal experience.
for example, try to explain the achievement gap by referring to skin color only, no other factors. tell me what you come up with.
Rancho Cucamonga
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I'd be more accepting if they had used the words "indigent only". We talk about how race shouldn't matter yet it's still used to separate and segregate. Hypocrisy rules.
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You're talking about the past, yes white people have had it easier bit I'm talking about the opportunities now 2013, it's really easy to say "fuck you cracker, I'm not gonna listen to a white man!" and then they wonder why the kids don't learn anything. It's just something I've experienced, prolly alot more different in places like Chicago or New York, I dunno. I do know our education system here sucks for all races lol, so I guess everyone has an excise anyway.
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Yeah and out of all the nice ways to say it gently they pick a word from the 60s lol, not wise, shouldn't be only tho, all children deserve to have that.
UncleBuck
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the achievement gap still exists. we are not talking about the past.
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Looks like you were to me, yes of course there is an achievement gap, that's not what I'm talking about, and then you said about how it's still happening now because of the past, I just don't understand your meaning, everyone has the same opportunities.
dbkick
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amen , it's just aurora is more colored than most areas around here.
RainbowBrite86
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I can see both sides of this argument, but I'm actually with Bucky on this one. I mean, OK, we (being white people) always look at it like "It's not our fault." And it was many, many years ago and I get that laws are different now and all that good stuff. BUT. Think about it from a different perspective. This didn't just happen yesterday, but that's kind of the problem for them. This wasn't one generation of people that had their entire course of life changed. There are huge gaps between races, financial, educational, and otherwise, that can almost exclusively be attributed to the poverty their families were forced into. And the argument I always hear is "they're not poor because of slavery, they're poor because of bad choices they made." Well, ya! What choices would YOU make if your family needed food? I mean, this has a lot of frustration behind it for them. Even after slavery ended, being black or any kind of minority meant no good jobs were open to you, if you were even lucky enough to find one. They didn't get pensions, they barely made anything as far as wages go, they couldn't save money. They couldn't send their kids to college even after their kids were allowed to go. So, great, we mixed everyone into public schooling. Whoopee. Now how many black students had to leave school early so they could work to help their family? Don't say they should have stayed in school. Sometimes, that's just not an option. Hungry bellies won't stop growling while they wait for you to finish school. So we have all these generations of black people who had next to no hope of ever getting out of a cycle of poverty, and then we throw out a few bones like Black History Month and expect everything to just be OK for them. Well, it's not. They were held back so long that it's going to take a LOT of help to make things truly "equal".
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So you're born poor, I was poor as shit too but was raised with good morals. Lol, leave school to help their families? Or to join a gang...this isn't the 70s, it's 2013,the government helps more. My mom raised 2 kids, by herself, worked 2 jobs at times and went back to school. So there are no real excises to pull the race card anymore, maybe it's because she got her tubes tied instead of having 13 mouths to feed? It's all about the decisions you make.
RainbowBrite86
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Everyone has the same opportunities NOW. I think of it like this: My grandfather had a job he worked at for 60 years. If he'd been black, he probably would not have had steady employment if he'd had any at all. He got a pension when he retired. Had he been black, he wouldn't have gotten that. Because he had income when my father was growing up, my father was able to stay in school, even got to go to college. Not if he'd been raised black, though. My grandfather died, passed that money down to my dad, and bingo, I can go to college without disturbing my dad's finances one bit. There is no chance of that happening with poverty that's been handed down through that many generations. These kids are born and by the time they're teenagers they're working to pay off the debts their parents incurred just from raising them. We can't pretend like the past hasn't affected the present just because we don't want to be blamed for it. No, it's not our fault. But yes, it is wrong, and it is happening, and we do need to help fix it.
RainbowBrite86
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Ya. The government helps more. And then we snub our noses at them for taking the help.
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That's only Republicans that do that lol.