Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

[Uncle Ben]

5 days of darkness definately would contribute to the yellowing. It's all related to a carbon flag, the health and subsequent retention of a leaf that is. Ever wonder why a plant eventually drops non-productive leaves, whether it be from pest issues, old age or environmental such as your darkness case? it's because the C02 assimiliation/process is so low or non existent that it sends a hormonal flag to the plant to get rid of it.

You asked about the NPK values I use....I use whatever it takes to produce and maintain the most healthy leaves until harvest. Don't worry, you'll eventually get what I mean.

High P foods not only induce micro deficiencies but increase stretch.

UB

 

[Bud Brewer]

5 days of darkness definately would contribute to the yellowing. It's all related to a carbon flag, the health and subsequent retention of a leaf that is. Ever wonder why a plant eventually drops non-productive leaves, whether it be from pest issues, old age or environmental such as your darkness case? it's because the C02 assimiliation/process is so low or non existent that it sends a hormonal flag to the plant to get rid of it.

UB

Same thing with bud in the dark you finally figured it out.

 

[HeartlandHank]

....it's because the C02 assimiliation/process is so low or non existent that it sends a hormonal flag to the plant to get rid of it.

.... Don't worry, you'll eventually get what I mean.


UB

That is interesting. The plant judges the leaves worth by it's use or lack of using Co2. Fun Fact right there..

I know what you are saying... When I grow a monoculture for the purpose of production I begin to pay attention to the plant and what it "wants".
When I am growing a pack of seeds out for the purpose of selecting a mother I am working towards one nutrient mix that is a happy medium. I just don't have time to mix 6 separate feeds for 6 plants.
With 6 genetically unique plants, the plants that are the odd plant out (as far as nutrient needs) end up suffering a little bit. This one was the furthest from being the ideal fit to my 1 for all nutrient solution.

However, when leaf problems come up I frequently go looking for answers and end up causing more harm. Also, it is tough to break the habit of doing what I "know" rather than what I see in front of me.
I suspect this plant will be one that I keep around for cuttings for some time. So, I'll get it figured out.

 

[Kite High]

actually it is when the leaf can no longer function to manufacture a certain chemical the name of which presently eludes me, is when it will be dropped...hence why yellow leaves may be retained even when photosynthesis has ceased

 

[Kite High]

5 days of darkness definately would contribute to the yellowing. It's all related to a carbon flag, the health and subsequent retention of a leaf that is. Ever wonder why a plant eventually drops non-productive leaves, whether it be from pest issues, old age or environmental such as your darkness case? it's because the C02 assimiliation/process is so low or non existent that it sends a hormonal flag to the plant to get rid of it.

You asked about the NPK values I use....I use whatever it takes to produce and maintain the most healthy leaves until harvest. Don't worry, you'll eventually get what I mean.

High P foods not only induce micro deficiencies but increase stretch.

UB

hell high P can inhibit iron uptake and N availability as well...yep 3-1-2 in the stretch phase greatly diminishes stretch...fact

 

[Poe Kerbuddons]

In a moment of anger I plucked nearly all the withered and burnt fan leaves from a plant. All the bud was small and very fluffy; as a direct result, I'm sure.

 

[Bud Brewer]

I think the thing that caused the withered and burnt leaves didn't go away when you took nonfunctioning leaves off what happened?

 

[yesum]

So unrelated, but Uncle Ben, what are your top strains you like to smoke. I remember Black Domina and maybe GDP?

Anyways, I just smoked some BD I grew and it is one of the strongest indicas I have smoked. I added uvb light to the grow and let it go 12 weeks.

All the different strains I ran with the uvb are really strong but this BD is a bell ringer. Mine was called SAD from Sweet Seeds, a pheno of BD they selected.

 

[Uncle Ben]

So unrelated, but Uncle Ben, what are your top strains you like to smoke. I remember Black Domina and maybe GDP?

Anyways, I just smoked some BD I grew and it is one of the strongest indicas I have smoked. I added uvb light to the grow and let it go 12 weeks.

All the different strains I ran with the uvb are really strong but this BD is a bell ringer. Mine was called SAD from Sweet Seeds, a pheno of BD they selected.

Strongest, most fruity, heaviest yielder? My cross of C99 X Peak19. These are large bush plants, check 'em out:



Black Domina, forgot about that one. Used to be popular years ago. Trends come and go in this biz. I wish I had a pure indica to play with. Closest thing to indica was Peak19 and most of those had a very strong skunk smell that you could detect a mile away. Weird.....I grew out some Peak19 backcrosses outdoors and the pheno went almost pure sativa. They have Colombian in them, or so says Sagamartha:



Mexican is pretty hard to beat too.

Good luck,
UB

 

[cannawizard]

Strongest, most fruity, heaviest yielder?

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Mexican is pretty hard to beat too.

Good luck,
UB

--I'll take some of that Mexi ~ her fingers just say, "space cadet".. i remember black domina.. always wondered what happened to that strain..

 

[Uncle Ben]

--I'll take some of that Mexi ~ her fingers just say, "space cadet".. i remember black domina.. always wondered what happened to that strain..

That last photo is a Peak19 backcross. The Colombian phenotype really showed up for some reason.

I agree with Mel Frank when he says, "Mexican can be some of the best pot you've ever grown." It gets a bad rap because of crap they buy in a baggie, as if that's even close to the potential of those seeds staring back at them.

 

[Bud Brewer]

I just put my ladies out of their misery I defoliated them 6 or 7 times I think I got a tiny yield for two plants luckily I still have at least an oz of popcorn on each of the still 3 foot high and wide bushes.
I think I can get just as much bud the second time I flower with no veg time.



Wrong pic that is just one plant

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

3 plants from 3 gallon containers, 400 watts. Less than 90 days rooted clone too finish. Almost zero popcorn, just firm, fat, sticky buds top to bottom.

 

[Bud Brewer]

Nice bud but you would need all three to add up to one of mine and I still have three foot bushes to reflower no veg I think I will get just as much the second time.

 

[Slab]

You will not get a second set of flowers from the same nodes.

 

[Kite High]

unsubbing...too much stupidity for me to stomach any longer....have a great existence everyone

 

[Bud Brewer]

I got so many pics it's stupid If people want to know how when and what was done just ask.

This was all done in coco compost mix with homemade organic nutes only. Cost in total about 40 dollars and I will keep using the soil and nutes for a reflower and if I can do a third I will but the soil will still be good no chemical build up.

I have seen 5 gallon bucket photos so I couldn't resist, many will think this is a whole plant, not just the colas mixed in that wall of hanging bud on the ends.






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[Bud Brewer]

You will not get a second set of flowers from the same nodes.

They many be hungry and light deprived, but they are still about 3 feet high and wide with hundreds of bud sites that look about two weeks old waiting to explode into new growth once I trim the last few onces of popcorn nothing hanging has popcorn.

I will get about as much the second time maybe more because they are going to be turned around and tied so I can drop the light and get more out of it.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Nice bud but you would need all three to add up to one of mine and I still have three foot bushes to reflower no veg I think I will get just as much the second time.

Bullshit. Get over yourself. You've turned into a big mouthed bore.

UB

 

[yesum]

Strongest, most fruity, heaviest yielder? My cross of C99 X Peak19. These are large bush plants, check 'em out:

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Black Domina, forgot about that one. Used to be popular years ago. Trends come and go in this biz. I wish I had a pure indica to play with. Closest thing to indica was Peak19 and most of those had a very strong skunk smell that you could detect a mile away. Weird.....I grew out some Peak19 backcrosses outdoors and the pheno went almost pure sativa. They have Colombian in them, or so says Sagamartha:

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Mexican is pretty hard to beat too.

Good luck,
UB

Got you and Uncle Buck mixed up, he had those strains as favs, along with Godbud. I have grown out Maple Leaf Indica and now Afghani #1 but have not yet smoked the Afghani. MLI is a good stable indica. The f2's I made look and smoke just like ones I got from the f1's.

Panama Red from ACE is a good sativa that is supposed to be pure. Pure enough for me. Takes me right back to late 70's and Oaxacan red.