The 12-12 From Seed Thread

bigv1976

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I think it is awesome when people post a pic of there 3 inch cooked plant asking for help and then tell a very well established grower they suck. I wish some people could see how stupid they make themselves look here. Warrior shouldnt be criticizing anyone after posting a pick like that. Throw that thing away and read a book dude.
 

omar924

Active Member
Hello all. I've been thinking about trying 12/12 from seed for awhile now, and I think Im finally going to give it a try. I have a few questions first.
1. what are some of the benefits?cons?
2. what size gallon is sufficient?
3. what are some strains that do well under12/12 from seed.
4. any tips in general.

I have a 600w hps if that helps at all . thanks!
 

KidneyStoner420

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Sv, That is weird. I grew one under the 250 last year and it GRE to about 30 inches and gave me about 2 oz. Ill post pics when I'm on my laptop.
 

Serial Violator

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Sv, That is weird. I grew one under the 250 last year and it GRE to about 30 inches and gave me about 2 oz. Ill post pics when I'm on my laptop.
when i tried to lst it, it might of slowed it up a bit but from the looks of the other plants i lsted i think its just a really short stocky pheno. Iv'e still got another 16 CM seeds so hopefully thenext run will be a little bigger
 

Serial Violator

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Hello all. I've been thinking about trying 12/12 from seed for awhile now, and I think Im finally going to give it a try. I have a few questions first.
1. what are some of the benefits?cons?
2. what size gallon is sufficient?
3. what are some strains that do well under12/12 from seed.
4. any tips in general.

I have a 600w hps if that helps at all . thanks!
save on power as omly using the light 12hrs a day
you can run a perpetual grow with ease
many different strains growing at once(last crop i had 10 different strains in jars
usually around 13 weeks to crop.

most strains do well, lemon skunk ,kiwi, tga stuff has been good 12-12 for me and big bomb are all winners
i grow in 6l airpots some use 10l normal pots and then a few use 10 gallon pots, its upto you what works for you
600w i usually pull around 15oz each crop
 

nameno

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Early one morning,in the middle of the night
two old boys got up to fight,back to back they faced each other,
turned around drew swords & shot each other,
a deaf man he heard the noise & came to see who shot the 2 dead boys.
Now if you don't believe my story is true,
you ask the blind man he saw it to.

I learned that in high school. I learned more but they were x-rated.Peace
 

UKHomeGrow

Active Member
Early one morning,in the middle of the night
two old boys got up to fight,back to back they faced each other,
turned around drew swords & shot each other,
a deaf man he heard the noise & came to see who shot the 2 dead boys.
Now if you don't believe my story is true,
you ask the blind man he saw it to.

I learned that in high school. I learned more but they were x-rated.Peace
Ill have some of whatever you are smoking :mrgreen:
 

GreenSanta

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Hello all. I've been thinking about trying 12/12 from seed for awhile now, and I think Im finally going to give it a try. I have a few questions first.
1. what are some of the benefits?cons?
2. what size gallon is sufficient?
3. what are some strains that do well under12/12 from seed.
4. any tips in general.

I have a 600w hps if that helps at all . thanks!
1.-perpetual grow system with only 1 room
----multiple strains
----way more fun
----Less chance of fuking up (lots can happen when you veg your plants 60 days!
----once the operation is on the go you can harvest plants very often depending how... if you load your room from the start you can harvest every 60 days by starting your next seeds ahead of time.
cons - smaller plants or bigger containers and high humidity
--------whenever you find this one special plant, you only have to option to reveg as you probably had not cloned it.
2.if you use bottled nutes, 3 gallons seems to be ok but I grow in supersoil using 7 gallons, my plants get fairly big.
3. I find all TGA strains are doing very well so it makes me think you want to look for hybrid (50%indica 50% sativa, in my experience, 100% indica dont yield as well and will grow one big bud. Depends what you are looking for.
4.-bigger containers, and run dehumidifier next to your tent to counter high humidity.
----transplant early (from seedlings right into the final container)

you can even make your own seeds using 12/12 fs and only one room.

the only downside with hps vs LEDs is that your plants might not veg as vigorously and it's pretty important to ''veg'' them with lots of good light.
 

KidneyStoner420

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Serial Violator... This was my Critical Mass a couple weeks into flower. You must've got a different pheno than mine. This was back when I had my 250


CriticalMass.jpg



I have a trainwreck that looks about the same height as your critical mass. She's 1 1/2 weeks from her demise. This was under my 600. I started to phase in the smart pots when I swapped to a 600.

Trainwreck 6 weeks1.jpg
 

Serial Violator

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I don't even think its as big as that 2nd pic. Your CM leaves look alot skinnier than mine, ive obviously got a mainly indica bean that time
 

omar924

Active Member
1.-perpetual grow system with only 1 room
----multiple strains
----way more fun
----Less chance of fuking up (lots can happen when you veg your plants 60 days!
----once the operation is on the go you can harvest plants very often depending how... if you load your room from the start you can harvest every 60 days by starting your next seeds ahead of time.
cons - smaller plants or bigger containers and high humidity
--------whenever you find this one special plant, you only have to option to reveg as you probably had not cloned it.
2.if you use bottled nutes, 3 gallons seems to be ok but I grow in supersoil using 7 gallons, my plants get fairly big.
3. I find all TGA strains are doing very well so it makes me think you want to look for hybrid (50%indica 50% sativa, in my experience, 100% indica dont yield as well and will grow one big bud. Depends what you are looking for.
4.-bigger containers, and run dehumidifier next to your tent to counter high humidity.
----transplant early (from seedlings right into the final container)

you can even make your own seeds using 12/12 fs and only one room.

the only downside with hps vs LEDs is that your plants might not veg as vigorously and it's pretty important to ''veg'' them with lots of good light.
can you (or anyone) elaborate on what you mean making seeds?
 

NnthStTrls

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So here's those pics I said I'd post of my home bred cross of Strawberry Blue from World of Seeds. The seeds were put in the dirt on New Years and have been 12/12 the entire time.

I'd say they still have a month and a half before they're done so I do have faith in a decent little harvest. After that it'll be Melon Gum from Dr. Underground with a proper veg time as I'll just be running the one plant.

With the 6 plants I have going, I've got 3 different phenos. The difference can be seen in the leaves below. The last run I did with these I grew 2 plants that were extremely similar except 1 had a sort of chemmy berry aroma while the other had a super lemony smell. I'll know by the end of the week how these are all smelling but I'm not worried about it. Weed is weed. :D

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Anyways, I'll pop another update up here in a week or two once they let me know how they are all going to smell. Keep it green. Peace.
 

Bryon240

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nice...looks real for once in a long while on this thred...........most people lately been postin veg plkants tryin to say 12/12 fs nice
So here's those pics I said I'd post of my home bred cross of Strawberry Blue from World of Seeds. The seeds were put in the dirt on New Years and have been 12/12 the entire time.

I'd say they still have a month and a half before they're done so I do have faith in a decent little harvest. After that it'll be Melon Gum from Dr. Underground with a proper veg time as I'll just be running the one plant.

With the 6 plants I have going, I've got 3 different phenos. The difference can be seen in the leaves below. The last run I did with these I grew 2 plants that were extremely similar except 1 had a sort of chemmy berry aroma while the other had a super lemony smell. I'll know by the end of the week how these are all smelling but I'm not worried about it. Weed is weed. :D

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View attachment 2531333 As with my last grow, all the plants are exhibiting extreme root growth and I have these little guys sticking out from my grow bags everywhere which makes me a happy man.


Anyways, I'll pop another update up here in a week or two once they let me know how they are all going to smell. Keep it green. Peace.
 

zVice

Active Member
Hold up... I'm the one posting stupid shit? Hahaha

You rode the short bus to school didn't you?

nice...looks real for once in a long while on this thred...........most people lately been postin veg plkants tryin to say 12/12 fs nice
why even post if you are goin to say dumb shit...lol
when a daddy plant loves a mummy plant very much...
can you (or anyone) elaborate on what you mean making seeds?
 

NnthStTrls

Well-Known Member
can you (or anyone) elaborate on what you mean making seeds?
Well you're gonna need pollen to make seeds. That's a given. How you obtain that pollen can come from a few different methods.



If you want to make regular seeds which are seeds that will produce both male and female plants, then you'll need a male plant to collect the pollen from.

If you want to make feminized seeds then you will have to obtain pollen from a female plant. Yes that's right. Female plants can give you pollen too. In order for that to happen you need your female plant to produce some male flowers and to do that requires any of these 3 methods.

#1. The method that is most frequently used for producing reliable female seeds is to let a few buds on your plant keep flowering after you've harvested the rest of your bud when it was ready. Your plant will feel the impending doom looming upon it and produce some male flowers in a desperate attempt to self pollinate. When the male flowers are ready, you collect the pollen and store it to pollinate the next plant you grow. Because the pollen came from a female plant, the seeds it will produce will be at least 98% female.

#2 Another method to use is the Colloidal Silver method. I won't go too deep into it but using a prepared compound(search colloidal silver) to spray a few of the buds on your plant will cause them to do what method #1 does. Again save the pollen to pollinate your next plant.

#3 This method was one I didn't know about until my last grow but it has turned out pretty solid so far. If your plants are showing only female sex and you put them under real stress, this can cause them to produce some male flowers. At the beginning of flowering on my last grow the plants experienced a few nights in a row of really, really low temps. A few days later I noticed that a few nodes had begun to spit out hermaphrodite flowers. I was unhappy at first but did a shit ton of research into it. What I found lifted my spirits as it turns out the pollen created by those flowers would produce mostly feminized seeds as well. The bonus there was that I could actually use the pollen on that round of plants instead of collecting and storing it for next time. So that's what I did and now I have a ton of those seeds. More than 12 have been grown out and they have been female so far. With the 6 plants I'm running now I actually had 1 male preflower growing out of 1 side of 1 node. I plucked it and all is well.

The final method is one that isn't recommended. If you have a plant that naturally shows hermie traits you can use that pollen. Problem there is that the seeds you will produce will mostly be hermie as well. If you don't mind seeds in your weeds then by all means press on but you'd be much better off using one of the above methods. The top 2 being the most commonly preferred.

I'll be using method #1 to obtain some pollen from my current run to cross with my next plant which will be Melon Gum from Dr. Underground. Strawberry Blue x Melon Gum sounds good to me. I'll probably use method #1 again on the Melon Gum to obtain some of that pollen so I can back cross as well as pollinate my Fruitylicious when I run that after the Melon Gum. Blue Fruitberry Melon. :D
 
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