Dr Bob , do MI doctors give elevated plant counts ?

ProfessorPotSnob

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What was the end results for those victims , did the court allow the trim to be counted as part of the 2.5 ounces ?
Sad to say yes and he served time .. Its all documented on the MMMA , or it was before the hack over there .. Not sure there but its true and many people came from around the state to support him during his trials , I was one of the many ..

They were initially intending to charge him for a chocolate medible cake , that was dropped but they still used his self claimed unusable bag of trim as weight and charged him with running a drug house along with a few other B.S. charges ..
 

Huel Perkins

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Leo will consider dry leaves "usable", with or without trichomes. In their eyes, everything except stems, roots and seeds is dope...

Sad and ignorant, but true.
 

NEEDMMASAP

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Sad to say yes and he served time .. Its all documented on the MMMA , or it was before the hack over there .. Not sure there but its true and many people came from around the state to support him during his trials , I was one of the many ..

They were initially intending to charge him for a chocolate medible cake , that was dropped but they still used his self claimed unusable bag of trim as weight and charged him with running a drug house along with a few other B.S. charges ..
Wow thats a bummer , I checked to see the exact meaning of usable

“ Usable 1# capable of being used ---- 2# convenient and practicable for use


I can see if the trim was cured it could be used and maybe counted , but is it possible to use fresh trim ? If its not usable how could they count it as part of the 2.5 Ounces ? Is it possible that the victim was so far over weight that not counting the trim would not have mattered ?
 

Huel Perkins

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To law enforcement anything dry is usable, they have no idea what cured even means.

If the trim is fresh (not yet dried) they technically should not count it as usable but do you really think you can trust Leo to make that call...
 

mrbungle79

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curing has no bearing on what is usable. you don't need to cure your pot to get medicated. and i would't wanna have to use the "it's not dry though" argument either
 

NEEDMMASAP

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To law enforcement anything dry is usable, they have no idea what cured even means.

If the trim is fresh (not yet dried) they technically should not count it as usable but do you really think you can trust Leo to make that call...
I see what your saying BUT
Something is terribly wrong with this situation , if I am a legal patient and have a plant ready for harvest , and say it’s a 3oz yield ( bud ) and 1oz ( trim ) I am now subject to arrest , because I harvested a legal plant ? a few hours ago while the plant was in the grow room I was legal . How could any court think that would somehow be a just law ?
 

Figong

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I see what your saying BUT
Something is terribly wrong with this situation , if I am a legal patient and have a plant ready for harvest , and say it’s a 3oz yield ( bud ) and 1oz ( trim ) I am now subject to arrest , because I harvested a legal plant ? a few hours ago while the plant was in the grow room I was legal . How could any court think that would somehow be a just law ?
If you're in Michigan, you'd get hit for the bud alone, not even factoring the trim with 3 oz.
 

medical/420

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If i ever get busted with Pounds of BUDS , I will tell them it is Waste product and that i was going to dispose of it in a series of small controled fires.
 

NEEDMMASAP

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curing has no bearing on what is usable. you don't need to cure your pot to get medicated. and i would't wanna have to use the "it's not dry though" argument either
I’m beginning to think the damn law is a form of entrapment , I think when I get to start growing and I harvest a plant everything except 2.5 oz is going into a freezer or better yet or maybe 2oz of bud to cure and .5 oz into oil and the rest into the freezer . America the land of the free , , I used to teach that to my kids and now I’m thinking what a crock of shit . Why not start a growers ( caregivers ) union and set a price for your time to be included in your cost of being a caregiver ?
 

Rare D MI

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Yes the trim is useable. Usable as medicine, no. I think it would be a pretty simple argument in court. Explain the fact that the actual medicine is only 10-25 % of the trim weight. And wet leaf frozen waiting to be spun for hash would definitely not be counted, even though its it's usable more extract, it's not usable medicine. Are you trying to tell me the 3 day period of it drying out is the difference between legal an not legal??

The curing argument is perfectly viable. Being as. Haven't regulation here, no entity has the rights tell us, when our medicine has reached it's full potential. Maybe you need something to put you to sleep so it needs a 4 month cure to get the cbn level up high enough. Dating things you have stashed away is important.
 

Uncle Pirate

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Never had a run in with the cops have you? You go right on ahead and keep thinking a big ass bag of trim won't cause you trouble if the cops found it, but don't tell others it's safe to do. Simple argument in court? Who wants to go to court for being an idiot with trim? Just like when you said to put the weed under the car seat, that it's the same as the trunk. Stop talking out of your ass, stick to selling beans.
Yes the trim is useable. Usable as medicine, no. I think it would be a pretty simple argument in court. Explain the fact that the actual medicine is only 10-25 % of the trim weight. And wet leaf frozen waiting to be spun for hash would definitely not be counted, even though its it's usable more extract, it's not usable medicine. Are you trying to tell me the 3 day period of it drying out is the difference between legal an not legal??

The curing argument is perfectly viable. Being as. Haven't regulation here, no entity has the rights tell us, when our medicine has reached it's full potential. Maybe you need something to put you to sleep so it needs a 4 month cure to get the cbn level up high enough. Dating things you have stashed away is important.
 

bloodytrichomes

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no wonder the doc thinks he is smart .all this back n forth about whats in front of your face ..its in black and white .read and learn google is great try it
 

stumpjumper

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I think people should stop putting their own spin on this, it is clearly written in the law that trim is going to be considered useable.

How are you going to argue that your uncured buds aren't potent enough yet, maybe not for you, but for the next guy they are so that would make them useable. It might not be useable to you but it is to someone, that's all that will matter to any prick leo or judge. Same with trim..

Of course if you have the extra time and money to be a test dummy in the courts please do and get this definitively cleared up. :)
 

HomeLessBeans

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Up here they hav swept leaves off the floor and counted it. LEO does not follow any rules but their own.

I work for trim,it's why I use 6 gallons of alcohol at a time.
 

DemonTrich

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please post the LAWS or bylaws that state trim is USABLE and counts as your 2.5oz per patient stipend. i have nto been able to find any such ruling, nor have my past 2 cg's or the other 3 local growers i ask questions to.

thanks

i want HARD concrete evidience of said law, not an interpretation of said law in an individuals eyes of it. word for word or it doesnt exist.

if this were true, nearly EVERY grower would be in violation of said law after a harvest or by general clean up of their grow room(s).
 
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