Christian Stoners! Please if you are one post here and explain your view on things.

Doer

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Youre right about that, "Jesus" is the latin to english translation of his actual hebrew name, "Yeshua Ben Josef". But the reason that we celebrate his birthday on 12/25 is actually because of the pagan turned christian Roman emperor Constantine created christian holidays with the already in place Roman pagan holidays.
I used to try to get to the bottom of this. My friend's church has a team trying to translate the origin writings into Korean. (Korean Pentecost) Except, they can't decide what are the origins.

So, after the decades, the Aquarian Gospels, Dead Sea scrolls, the works. I kept searching for a mapping from what I learned as a child to what I learned from guru, sifu, etc. Ah ha, the mapping is there! But, the concepts are not Old Testament. They are Greek, Tibetan, and Northern Chinese. That's my opinion.

But, alas, no origin for the bible. No origin for any of the stories. The earliest Acts of Pilate are obviously doctored, I think. And, though there was Pilate, and plenty on Roman records, this Passover Execution is not in there.

I used to depend on Joesphus, for at least an early mention of a miracle man. Supposed to be about 10 years after. But, no, it looks like even that was altered later to insert that small phase.

It's a conspiracy linked to the powerful Pizo family? It's Roman politics? That's the best evidence.

Should mean nothing for a true believer, right?

No worries, because we see the world's Holy Trinity.

Jesus, Buddah, Krishna

Perfect to me, because there is not a shred of evidence, for any of the stories of God-men. And yet, the hope to be better.

It is odd only, in that there is this essential mapping, that exists, despite the make believe. To me there must be something to this.

Know Self Now.
 

Kaendar

Well-Known Member
I used to try to get to the bottom of this. My friend's church has a team trying to translate the origin writings into Korean. (Korean Pentecost) Except, they can't decide what are the origins.

So, after the decades, the Aquarian Gospels, Dead Sea scrolls, the works. I kept searching for a mapping from what I learned as a child to what I learned from guru, sifu, etc. Ah ha, the mapping is there! But, the concepts are not Old Testament. They are Greek, Tibetan, and Northern Chinese. That's my opinion.

But, alas, no origin for the bible. No origin for any of the stories. The earliest Acts of Pilate are obviously doctored, I think. And, though there was Pilate, and plenty on Roman records, this Passover Execution is not in there.

I used to depend on Joesphus, for at least an early mention of a miracle man. Supposed to be about 10 years after. But, no, it looks like even that was altered later to insert that small phase.

It's a conspiracy linked to the powerful Pizo family? It's Roman politics? That's the best evidence.

Should mean nothing for a true believer, right?

No worries, because we see the world's Holy Trinity.

Jesus, Buddah, Krishna

Perfect to me, because there is not a shred of evidence, for any of the stories of God-men. And yet, the hope to be better.

It is odd only, in that there is this essential mapping, that exists, despite the make believe. To me there must be something to this.

Know Self Now.
Actually, there are alot of writings from that time period of a man in the mid east causing quite a stir. Did you know that Jesus is the most mentioned person in the quran?
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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so you know that...an yet you still believe dude aka jesus was real? esp after you know that he was basically copied from other gods before him?

an i think christians will validate what they do no matter if its drinkin too much coffee or gettin high.
I believe a similar person might have existed. A "divine" person whos words were disgustingly twisted and misunderstood throughout the ages. A person that belonged to no religion and had no intent to start a religion.

(edit) perhaps there were many men like that.
 

Doer

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I know a lot about the Abrahamic tradition. The flying over desert, with an Angel re-evaluations, were in the 600s AD. Islam is older, only, than Mormon it's direct western descendant.

So, if you can find something authentic, I'd really like to see it. I've looked. We unfortunately look at the past, only in our understanding. One day, for us, would have been an interminable dangerous, hassle. We can accomplish understanding in 5 mins of Google, what it took 2000 years to accumulate. We know the Romans were amoral pigs. They are truly not us. They are the ones before us. And we know the Jews would do anything to preserve their teaching despite the Romans. Patronage from the Pizo?

Perhaps the Pizo family saw a chance. They needed something. For some purpose of power. But, we don't see the long day by day of the past. We don't see the several generations of Roman power struggle. But, knowing a bigger picture of Rome than ever before, it is quite easy to guess it simply backfired.

Sure the Jews were preserved from the scapegoat of being Christian, for awhile. Did the Jews find a sponsor? Don't kill them. Take the Christians to the lions.

But, later, these Christians were a Jinn out of the bottle. They turned on the Jews. Deity Murder. There is no other evidence, sadly, but non-tampered writing from the Pizo, that somehow escaped the purge for plausible dependability. It was Christians that first burned the Library at Alexandria. That left the the information vacuum they needed. Much later it was Julius Ceaser, that sent down fire ships on Alexandria harbor. That finished the Library. But, that was an accident. Cruel war.

Later, in the Arab tribes, they noticed the power vacuum across the Med. Constantine was busy in the East. Maybe strike West?

How about a divine Ordination? The first plagiarism of Revelation? Hardly. But, the first target of Islam? The Jews. The God Murderers. Wiped out a big group out at some oasis, around 640 AD or so. Later, the first target of the Hitler? We know. I see that these Old stories are myths and used as power tools.

It's the science that accumulates in a trustworthy sense. It's demanding of a generally experienced, fact of life. These old stories of God men are just that, I see now. Just stores.
 

tyler.durden

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Actually, there are alot of writings from that time period of a man in the mid east causing quite a stir. Did you know that Jesus is the most mentioned person in the quran?
This is not true. Although there are multiple mentions of jesus, abraham is referenced more times, and moses is mentioned five times more often. I think that you meant Jesus is mentioned more often than mohammed. Why does it seem that atheists almost always know more about religion than theists?
 

tyler.durden

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Actually, there are alot of writings from that time period of a man in the mid east causing quite a stir. Did you know that Jesus is the most mentioned person in the quran?
This is not true. Although there are multiple mentions of jesus, abraham is referenced more times, and moses is mentioned five times more often. I think that you meant Jesus is mentioned more often than mohammed. Why does it seem that atheists almost always know more about religion than theists?
Thank you for posting a link that proves my statement and disproves your own ;)
 

420IAMthatIAM

Active Member
I was just wondering how you justify smoking? How you deal with other Christians views that greatly oppose yours? What about, body and temple biz... Do you have any sort of inner turmoil?
1Co 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVvGjO-kdI:clap:
 

Nevaeh420

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I was just wondering how you justify smoking? How you deal with other Christians views that greatly oppose yours? What about, body and temple biz... Do you have any sort of inner turmoil?


I dont believe any Christian needs to justify smoking herb. Its not like weed does any physical harm to the "temple"! Lots of people become more spiritual when they blaze and reach a higher state of consciousness! I know that when I smoke, I feel lifted up and more in tune with God. Christ smoked herb, but lots of people dont know about it. Christ advocates for herb but most people dont know about it! Christ is alive but most people dont know about it. I AM Christ but most people dont know about it :D

If other Christians oppose My views than thats fine: I believe everyone is entitles to their opinions. I like to hear what other people believe about God and Christ and I try to keep an open mind! Sometimes I agree with what other Christians have to say and sometimes I dont. I have My own beliefs so let them have theirs also.

It is written that "The Body is The Temple of The Holy Ghost" so we should treat our bodies like God lives inside of us! We dont have to be perfect, because no one is perfect but we should respect our bodies because its the only one we have for this life. What would happen if you died because you didnt take care of your body? what would happen next?

Peace is essential to living a healthy life. If one has inner turmoil than they will age quicker so try and have inner peace and not strife with others. Most importantaly, have peace with God and He will guide your ways. God is waiting for us to come to Him and rest in Him!




By The Way, I believe that I AM Christ, so you can go to the link below to see what I believe! Read the whole thread to be enlightened!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

By The Way, I believe that I AM Christ, so you can go to the link above to see what I believe! Read the whole thread to be enlightened!




~PEACE~
 

buckaroo bonzai

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1Co 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVvGjO-kdI:clap:

"Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture they do not understand, but the passages that bother me are those I do understand."
-Mark Twain
 

Mysticwolf

Member
I am both a Christian (eastern Orthodox) and a cannabis user. I don't really find any conflict other than the legal issues, and the fact that in todays social millieu herb is viewed as "evil" and Christians are instructed to avoid the "very appearance" of the same. I believe that herb, like all of God's was created "good"" and remains so. In fact, good, as used in Genesis, also translates as beautiful in both Hebrew and Greek.(though I certainly do not claim to be an expert in either).As to smoking, well it certainly presents it's own set of hazards. Combusting plant material is never the healthiest option, but it is the quickest way to bring the active ingredients of cannabis into the blood stream. And, it seems to me, that most of the nexus between smoking and cancer likely s to do with the chemicals introduced to both tobacco and cigarette papers by big tobacco.
As to my approach with those whom I may disagree with on the subject, well, it is just that, a disagreement, and one that is not relevant to one's salvation.
 

Super Toker

Active Member
I dont know if smoking is a sin or not, but I smoke a lot. I live my life the best I can, I pray every night, and treat everyone as good as I can,and not afraid of death since I been so close to it many times and hope thats good enough to get me through the pearly gates
 
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