World Of Hempy

Txchilies

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To the untrained eye male flowers look a lot more like a typical flower than females...especially when they open. Maybe whocares could snap a.close up? Are there small fuzzy white hairs growing out? Or is it a cluster of football shaped pods with small yellow/white flowers?
I posted a link of a picture that shows early stage male flower. Whocares plant is to young to have matured male that has released pollen. Check post #3441 to see a good male plant.
 

Shivaskunk

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I posted a link of a picture that shows early stage male flower. Whocares plant is to young to have matured male that has released pollen. Check post #3441 to see a good male plant.
yeah im not sure how old her plants were when put into 12/12. I have had a seedling pop an open male flower a month before any of the others came clowe to showing sex. As in the plant was about a month old and not mature but it popped a flower.
 

supchaka

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I test some crazy shit sometimes... Did you know that a full bladder of piss into 3 quarts of water is nearly 2000ppm?! Im not saying anything else for now ;)
 

Moebius

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I really like the look of these Canna Products. I think i'll give one or two of them a try, I think they can be used along with existing base nutes. part of the Canna Mononutrient range

Single mineral elements additives. If your plants are suffering from a deficiency problem then this may be the answer!

Available:
- Canna Ca 15% (Calcium) 1 ltr
- Canna Fe Plus (Iron Chelate)
- Canna MgO 7% (Magnesium Sulphate) 1 ltr
- Canna N 20% (Nitrogen) 1 ltr
- Canna P 20% (Phosphor) 1 ltr
- Canna K 20% (Potassium) 1 ltr
- Canna Trace Mix



Canna N 20% - This mineral fertiliser contains 27% N. (Contains: ammonium 6%,amid nitrogen 11% and nitrate 10%. Contains also MgO 2.5% and CaO 6.5%).



Canna MgO - This mineral fertiliser contains 7% MgO and 14% SO3



Canna Trace Mix - is a mineral fertiliser, which is extremely suitable as a supplementary nutrient to stimulate the growth and bloom of the plant. Besides that it can serve to reduce the deficiency of trace elements. This mineral fertiliser contains various trace elements.(0.06% Fe (DTPA&EDDHA), 0.07% Mo, 0.06% Cu, 0.6% Mn, 0.3% B and 0.3% Zn).

 

Moebius

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I can see how the Trace would be a benifit but I'm not sure I'd like to dabble with the others to much.
Come on man! ... Wheres the nutty professor in you?

Looks like great fun to me! LOL

edit:
Weirdly, Trace doesnt contain the Calcium. .. and neither does the MgO
 

Txchilies

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Chaka I can only imagine you did this expirement, I was wondering though was the urine measured? As they say alittle goes along way, I'm not sure but I think it is suppose to be mixed at 5 to 1.
 

Moebius

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Chaka I can only imagine you did this expirement, I was wondering though was the urine measured? As they say alittle goes along way, I'm not sure but I think it is suppose to be mixed at 5 to 1.
The data is all available on google LOL. ppm of milk, water, urine etc.
 

Txchilies

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Well, it would be fun to find the right mix of nutes to make plants explode and go crazy I must admit. But at the moment I'm busy trying to nail down some strains and pheno's from cross breeding. That would make to many irons in the fire.
 

supchaka

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Chaka I can only imagine you did this expirement, I was wondering though was the urine measured? As they say alittle goes along way, I'm not sure but I think it is suppose to be mixed at 5 to 1.
Lol it went like this... I was busy doing shit in the garage and forgot to water the plants. So I'm mixing up the water for my soil plants, and had to pee really bad! So I was like hmm I have this empty bottle here no need to go in the house! Better yet why don't I just check the ppm of this when added to water. I ended up diluting it down to 1000ppm which also included some real nutes so I'd imagine it won't do much if anything. Not so much of a test lol. Ill have to give it pure diluted piss and nothing else if I really want to see! I may, I do weird shit and I've heard of people using it before :)
 

Moebius

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Further to some of our recent purple discussions - some 'stoner' thoughts I just had.

I remember at school being taught the leaves in fall don't actually turn purple 'per se'. What happens is that they loose the chlorophyll (green pigment) leaving the red pigments showing. The red/purple was always in the leaf.

So in my Hempy without holes, is this what happened? A lockout of the elements responsible for chlorophyll production? Since Mg is known to be key in chlorophyll this has to be key to the missing green pigment.

I think another element must have been responsible for blocking the uptake of the Mg. Since the buds were large and covered with frost, and also I was feeding Bloom Solution I'm guessing it was an excess of (P) Phosphorous or (K) Potassium.

Whatever the reason, I think it would be cool to mess with these mono-nutes to see if I can chemically induce the plant to show color or bigger/frosty bud.
 

Moebius

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some have even gone the humanure route. If one tried that in Hempy they would probably end up in a mental institution.

Saying that, the 'organic coco hempy' I have smells like dog mess. Its nasty.
 

Moebius

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This is quite an interesting excerpt from Wikipedia.

Why green and not black?

Black plants can absorb more radiation, and yet most plants are green



It still is unclear exactly why plants have mostly evolved to be green. Green plants reflect mostly green and near-green light to viewers rather than absorbing it. Other parts of the system of photosynthesis still allow green plants to use the green light spectrum (e.g., through a light-trapping leaf structure, carotenoids, etc.). Green plants do not use a large part of the visible spectrum as efficiently as possible. A black plant can absorb more radiation, and this could be very useful, if extra heat produced is effectively disposed of (e.g., some plants must close their openings, called stomata, on hot days to avoid losing too much water, which leaves only conduction, convection, and radiative heat-loss as solutions).[SUP][7][/SUP] The question becomes why the only light-absorbing molecule used for power in plants is green and not simply black.

The biologist John Berman has offered the opinion that evolution is not an engineering process, and so it is often subject to various limitations that an engineer or other designer is not. Even if black leaves were better, evolution's limitations can prevent species from climbing to the absolute highest peak on the fitness landscape. Berman wrote that achieving pigments that work better than chlorophyll could be very difficult. In fact, all higher plants (embryophytes) are thought to have evolved from a common ancestor that is a sort of green alga – with the idea being that chlorophyll has evolved only once. [SUP][8][/SUP]

Shil DasSarma, a microbial geneticist at the University of Maryland, has pointed out that species of archaea do use another light-absorbing molecule, retinal, to extract power from the green spectrum. He described the view of some scientists that such green-light-absorbing archae once dominated the earth environment. This could have left open a "niche" for green organisms that would absorb the other wavelengths of sunlight. This is just a possibility, and Berman wrote that scientists are still not convinced of any one explanation.[SUP][9][/SUP]

Astronomer and mathematician Fred Hoyle conjectured that chlorophyll was likely to be an interstellar molecule, pointing out the similarities of its light absorbing properties to interstellar dust.[SUP][10][/SUP]
 

Shivaskunk

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My clone girls are finally getting hungry..well the skunks at least. Fed them 1000 ppm of the usual with someaquashield just cause it was laying around. Fed em enough that a good quart drained from each.securedownload-299.jpg you can see that the skunks needed a good N boost before i cut back on N seems like sandwidow is a lighter feeder..but they both got 1000 ppm. Gods gift not pictured is much like bluedream when it comes to stretch and N. It and some of my seed plants are a bit light (not as light as pic shows though). Since im cutting back on N very soon i hit the seed plants that needed it with 1600 ppm heavy on the micro with some grow in it. Got everything from tall n lanky to short and bushy..and one or two that look like they would be awesome sog plants. cheerssecuredownload-372.jpg
 

808killahz

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Further to some of our recent purple discussions - some 'stoner' thoughts I just had.

I remember at school being taught the leaves in fall don't actually turn purple 'per se'. What happens is that they loose the chlorophyll (green pigment) leaving the red pigments showing. The red/purple was always in the leaf.

So in my Hempy without holes, is this what happened? A lockout of the elements responsible for chlorophyll production? Since Mg is known to be key in chlorophyll this has to be key to the missing green pigment.

I think another element must have been responsible for blocking the uptake of the Mg. Since the buds were large and covered with frost, and also I was feeding Bloom Solution I'm guessing it was an excess of (P) Phosphorous or (K) Potassium.

Whatever the reason, I think it would be cool to mess with these mono-nutes to see if I can chemically induce the plant to show color or bigger/frosty bud.
Yes sir... this is what i was talking about... no drainage = toxic medium = nute lockout = nute deficiency = break down of chlorophyll = purpling in purple gene strains. I know some people purple there buds this way but it really isn't beneficial to your plant at all.
 

jela10

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Lol it went like this... I was busy doing shit in the garage and forgot to water the plants. So I'm mixing up the water for my soil plants, and had to pee really bad! So I was like hmm I have this empty bottle here no need to go in the house! Better yet why don't I just check the ppm of this when added to water. I ended up diluting it down to 1000ppm which also included some real nutes so I'd imagine it won't do much if anything. Not so much of a test lol. Ill have to give it pure diluted piss and nothing else if I really want to see! I may, I do weird shit and I've heard of people using it before :)
Chaka, was your "pee-pee-M" meter a .5 or .7 conversion factor? Also beware of the cleanliness of your mixing container...any remnants of past nutrient mixes around the opening of the bottle can cause "tip burn".
 
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