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PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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zVice said:
3 : deficient in active properties ; especially : lacking a usual or anticipated chemical or biological actions

aka microbes

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inert

There is little to no usable food for plants in the substrate, which is why you need to start feeding almost immediately and continue feeding every single time you water.

dont see how anything below proves that you should use molasses lol
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Ask on 1 of the coco threads there's loads of peeps using molasses in coco...

Yeh cocos inert but what ever you feed is still there in the coco till you next feed that's why you can water when needed not like true inert mediums like clay pebbles which needs a constant feed....
 
shawnybizzle

shawnybizzle

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PUKKA BUD said:
Ask on 1 of the coco threads there's loads of peeps using molasses in coco...

Yeh cocos inert but what ever you feed is still there in the coco till you next feed that's why you can water when needed not like true inert mediums like clay pebbles which needs a constant feed....
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And using cannazym promotes beneficial micro organizims or how ever u spell it lol. So surely using mollasses along side it would help.... no?
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Yeh the cannazym is good for your micro life an speeds up the breaking down of dead roots, can't see why it won't help but probs no need mate if your using the cannazym an cannas boost or simular...

I've used mascavardo sugar before in coco its pure sugar cane an what molasses are made from it's only a quid from morro's too lol...used it to do a 4day flush before harvest....
 
shawnybizzle

shawnybizzle

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PUKKA BUD said:
Yeh the cannazym is good for your micro life an speeds up the breaking down of dead roots, can't see why it won't help but probs no need mate if your using the cannazym an cannas boost or simular...

I've used mascavardo sugar before in coco its pure sugar cane an what molasses are made from it's only a quid from morro's too lol...used it to do a 4day flush before harvest....
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Yeh man I only use the mollasses last week or so. Because its organic and u can eat it and what not I think surely its better than using all those notes just before your about to consume the goods;-) I don't want all that stinky horrible shit in my bud when I smoke it I want good natural sweet sugars that make your bud taste better!
 
zVice

zVice

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btw not trying to be a dick here, just trying to get to the bottom of this, cos I would like to know the answer too, I thought I did, but we're not all right all the time
unless your name is yorkie ;)

ok so found this, article basically saying that

The results demonstrated that a good sporulation from Trichoderma harzianum could be achieved in only 5 days. It could be interesting to further study the sporulation behavior at moisture levels below 60%, which could result higher productivity of spores in aerated solid state fermentation system.

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-89131999000100010

so I guess if you wanted to increase your trichoderma spores you could ferment your coco in some stinky molasses
the reasons I stopped using molasses was, 1. it stinks 2. personally found it did very little
 
shawnybizzle

shawnybizzle

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@vice yeh I know what u sayin mate I just like it for flush and shit what I'm gonna do is when I'm ready for harvest I'll do all the rest how I normally do then I'll do 1 with no flush + no mollasses just reduced feed to about 600ppm and I'll do a non biast smoke report ;-)
 
zVice

zVice

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ok so by this logic, you add molasses, it increases trichoderma activity


  • The coconut's organic complex contains trichoderma, a mold which works to keep root diseases in check and stimulates root development



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why would this help in the last few days of a plants life? the roots are already developed and should hopefully be disease free by this stage anyway


shawnybizzle said:
Yeh man I only use the mollasses last week or so. Because its organic and u can eat it and what not I think surely its better than using all those notes just before your about to consume the goods;-) I don't want all that stinky horrible shit in my bud when I smoke it I want good natural sweet sugars that make your bud taste better!
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zVice

zVice

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do it blind (ask someone to help with this) otherwise you may be biased by the placebo effect ;)

or even get someone else to try it

will be interested to see the results, I know for me there was no difference whatsoever, but again I may have been biased by thinking it does nothing.

shawnybizzle said:
@vice yeh I know what u sayin mate I just like it for flush and shit what I'm gonna do is when I'm ready for harvest I'll do all the rest how I normally do then I'll do 1 with no flush + no mollasses just reduced feed to about 600ppm and I'll do a non biast smoke report ;-)
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shawnybizzle

shawnybizzle

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zVice said:
ok so by this logic, you add molasses, it increases trichoderma activity


  • The coconut's organic complex contains trichoderma, a mold which works to keep root diseases in check and stimulates root development



    ​





why would this help in the last few days of a plants life? the roots are already developed and should hopefully be disease free by this stage anyway
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Because the last few days of its life it takes it nutrients from its leaves so a week prior to this I want to get all the nasty stuff out and give the plant wait for it mollasses so when it pulls those nutrients out the leaves and stuff its not synthetic nutes left over but organic nutes and sugars that's all
 
mrt1980

mrt1980

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PUKKA BUD said:
Mrt how come your gunna put the pot straight in mate? Why not open it up?
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because im using clay pebbles mate. if i open them up the pebbles will go every where lol

i just had a knock on the door from the police. fucking propper paranoia. the 10 year old was fighting with a boy up the street and they came about that. i hadnt smoked since 7 this morning tho and the mrs came down the stairs and said she couldnt smell anything anyway
 
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IC3M4L3

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sure last night sum1 was saying wait till yorkie posts,thinking hel be backed up about using mollassess in coco lolo,, guess he dident, oh well
 
zVice

zVice

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holy shit... are ye tighty whites brown?



mrt1980 said:
because im using clay pebbles mate. if i open them up the pebbles will go every where lol

i just had a knock on the door from the police. fucking propper paranoia. the 10 year old was fighting with a boy up the street and they came about that. i hadnt smoked since 7 this morning tho and the mrs came down the stairs and said she couldnt smell anything anyway
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shawnybizzle

shawnybizzle

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mrt1980 said:
because im using clay pebbles mate. if i open them up the pebbles will go every where lol

i just had a knock on the door from the police. fucking propper paranoia. the 10 year old was fighting with a boy up the street and they came about that. i hadnt smoked since 7 this morning tho and the mrs came down the stairs and said she couldnt smell anything anyway
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Ah you'll be alright bet your arsehole was twitching tho ha ha
 
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IC3M4L3

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zVice said:
holy shit... are ye tighty whites brown?
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ive had the same shit b4, my lodger was wanted sum time ago so police came he said ok lemmi get my bag so coppers went upsairs with him. stodd right next to my grow room was about week 6-7 flowering exo fuckibng brown wasent the word lol
 
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