Harrekin
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GAYprotection doesn't think, that's the point.
He just regurgitates what his homeopath tells him.
Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013
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He just regurgitates what his homeopath tells him.
Figong
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This doesn't surprise me at all, based on previous posts.
Dr Kynes
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so, you see yourself as ghandi, and all your opponents and questioners as hitler.I woke up this morning to the radio blaring Al Gore seemingly lecturing me on the virtues of 'spidergoat' farming...for a brief moment thought I died and woke up in 'hell'then I remembered hearing about this bit a year or so ago...
BBC News - The goats with spider genes and silk in their milk
I was reading this letter this morning and somehow I couldn't help replacing the recipients to be Monsanto et al and the issue of the war over the gene pool...
how terribly enlightening.
that explains a lot.
Figong
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I guess that means we win, heil? hahahaha
Dr Kynes
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this thread has been subject to so many halfassed godwins already that the Law has lost all power.
we're through the looking glass here people....
claiming he is like ghandi is a new one though.
DNAprotection
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Monsantos Patents on Life
By Katherine Paul, Ronnie Cummins
Organic Consumers Association, Feb. 27, 2013
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_27105.cfm
Excerpt:
"The real issue is this: Why have we surrendered control over something so basic to human survival as seeds? Why have we bought into the biotech industrys program, which pushes a few monoculture commodity crops, when history and science have proven that seed biodiversity is essential for growing crops capable of surviving severe climate conditions, such as drought and floods?"
By Katherine Paul, Ronnie Cummins
Organic Consumers Association, Feb. 27, 2013
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_27105.cfm
Excerpt:
"The real issue is this: Why have we surrendered control over something so basic to human survival as seeds? Why have we bought into the biotech industrys program, which pushes a few monoculture commodity crops, when history and science have proven that seed biodiversity is essential for growing crops capable of surviving severe climate conditions, such as drought and floods?"
DNAprotection
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Imagine the opportunity cannabis has the potential to provide Monsanto et al in their effort to control seeds.
What better way to begin the process of all seeds needing to be gov approved than to start with a species that is already illegal?
If we had fought in court for our self evident unalienable rights to posses and plant seeds when gov first began to impose on these rights we wouldn't be waiting for congress to further harm us in this area by way of 'legalization' and whatever that ends up meaning after the smoke clears.
Its never to late to stand up and fight for whats right until we no longer recognize what is right.
What better way to begin the process of all seeds needing to be gov approved than to start with a species that is already illegal?
If we had fought in court for our self evident unalienable rights to posses and plant seeds when gov first began to impose on these rights we wouldn't be waiting for congress to further harm us in this area by way of 'legalization' and whatever that ends up meaning after the smoke clears.
Its never to late to stand up and fight for whats right until we no longer recognize what is right.
echelon1k1
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Time to let this thread go...
Harrekin
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You argue for biodiversity yet argue against GM?
You realise there will come a time when we'll HAVE to modify crops simply to introduce new genetic material to the ecosystem?
Also, Monsanto banned heirloom varieties? I didn't realise they'd the power.
Canna Sylvan
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You mean naturopath? I don't think DNA is that dumb.
Figong
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Fuck their approval, given... I am in a medicinal state but I will not have anyone telling me that because they own all the rights, genetics can only produce X % of THC, THCV, CBN, etc - simply won't happen. That said, if Monsanto goes near the cannabis field, they would have very big issues, and be sitting on something useless.
As for your last statement of fighting for what's right, until we no longer recognize what's right. Right is natural plant growth, natural (or mostly natural) conditions based on growing cases.. not modifying plants to do things they shouldn't, and fucking with the genetics to the point that the government at any point with Monsanto sock puppet in their pocket could modify plant strains heavily to control THC/V, CBN, etc. This would cause a revolt, and more then a few geneticists world-wide would band together to create a superbug that was a hunter/killer of Monsanto cannabis. -bet on it-
Harrekin
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GAYprotection is a joke.
We merely return to this thread to submit him to more ridicule for his BATSHIT crazy stories.
Figong
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No kidding, this is getting somewhat crazy at this point... how about we just let Monsanto go bankrupt from previous failures, and put an end to this thread?
Harrekin
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True that, once they realise it isn't actually all it's cracked up to be they'll just tell Monsanto to go fuck themselves.
But just cos they (Monsanto) are dicks doesn't mean we ban genetic research.
Doer
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That's right, there are some farmers hooked in. Probably liked the primrose path of trust. Maybe went for the sweetheart, long term deals.
Maybe, like most everything else, it's complicated. And then Mother Jones makes it seem rabid.
Being business contract experienced, I imagine it goes a little bit like this:
Sure, just buy the seed like you always. But, magic corn is very expensive.
And it is new, so we don't know really all about it's yield, yet. (seems reasonable but the typical sales lie and I have told them all and made up a few new ones)
So, we have this deal where you don't pay much up front for seed corn, but you pay a royalty (say what>>!!!??)
Oh don't worry about it. In case you have lower yields (huh???) Yeah, you would not want to pay Cadillac prices for all that seed corn if it doesn't yield. RIGHT???
So, they sign. No Money Down. Good Credic, bad Credic! Lookee Ma, this feller goona save r' farm!
And it yields like a sonofabitch, so that 20 year royalty contract......It just ain't fair.
Maybe, like most everything else, it's complicated. And then Mother Jones makes it seem rabid.
Being business contract experienced, I imagine it goes a little bit like this:
Sure, just buy the seed like you always. But, magic corn is very expensive.
And it is new, so we don't know really all about it's yield, yet. (seems reasonable but the typical sales lie and I have told them all and made up a few new ones)
So, we have this deal where you don't pay much up front for seed corn, but you pay a royalty (say what>>!!!??)
Oh don't worry about it. In case you have lower yields (huh???) Yeah, you would not want to pay Cadillac prices for all that seed corn if it doesn't yield. RIGHT???
So, they sign. No Money Down. Good Credic, bad Credic! Lookee Ma, this feller goona save r' farm!
And it yields like a sonofabitch, so that 20 year royalty contract......It just ain't fair.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
You are equating "right" with "natural". I question that.
Sent from a colossally artificial bit of electronics. cn
Canna Sylvan
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Are you eating or smoking those electronics. Derp.
Figong
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Yup, that statement would be correct in what I typed (personal opinion). - 'right' is 'natural', or as close to it as possible. This is completely separate than anything electronics-based, in terms of focus. I'd rather eat what I would consider natural / heirloom .. same with cannabis as I won't have profiteering gluttons trying to cause more headache than the cannabis-using community already gets by throwing new rules/regulations/etc on top of the bullshit many states/countries are already trying to fight for. Just seems to make sense that a simplification of it at that point is easier. Don't you agree?
Harrekin
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You can choose what varieties to buy, don't buy GM ones.
Some people don't give a fuck, let them buy whatever they want.
Why do you hate consumer choice?
Figong
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I don't hate consumer choice whatsoever, if people want to end up getting GE Monsanto cannabis that's 1% CBD, and 4% THC, they're more then welcome to do so.. they just better not bitch when they don't get the intended/expected effects of it, due to Monsanto being a gov't controlled sock puppet is all.