Most Underrated Breeders

HazeHeaven

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Sweet seedz hit a home run with their Cream Caramel (seems like they try all kinds of pollen to hit it with now) other than that, i've never tried or heard anything special about any other strains ...except for maybe their SAD. World of sseeds Strawberry Blue imprressed the fuck out of me although it's a strain that's rarely recognized even by them .... never tried the WR X Mazar, but they say it's goood medicine.


How about Mandala, Sagramatha, .....also very impressed with Jordan of the Isle's selection. Blue Chemo sounds like a mad man..... Oh don't forget Next Generation
Me too. Strawberry Blue was some euphoric, giggly, happily potent stuff. Very dense, very unique high/stone, and great taste/smell also. I've had a lot of "elite" genetics and the Strawberry Blue is WAY up there towards the top of the best I've had....And it was freebee too :hump: Don't know why they don't push it more. Never had anything else by them but have to imagine something that good would be worth promoting.
 

silverhazefiend

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Lol u guys are funny

And I agree just agree to disagree ..

Here's my 2 cents ...I never grew any sannie strains ..but anybody who has smoked ..ECSD ..REAL ogs ..and shit loads of hazes and chem hybrids ..I wouldn't even GROW killing fields ..it might be strong to some but when ur talking about super potent super dank shit ..KILLING FIELDS is not even in the same room ! Of that convo ..eveeybody is entitled to there opinion ..everybody has a diff high tolerance ..so how can u be mad at some ones opinion ?
 

tree king

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Lol u guys are funny

And I agree just agree to disagree ..

Here's my 2 cents ...I never grew any sannie strains ..but anybody who has smoked ..ECSD ..REAL ogs ..and shit loads of hazes and chem hybrids ..I wouldn't even GROW killing fields ..it might be strong to some but when ur talking about super potent super dank shit ..KILLING FIELDS is not even in the same room ! Of that convo ..eveeybody is entitled to there opinion ..everybody has a diff high tolerance ..so how can u be mad at some ones opinion ?
thank you silverhaze! the thing is though i feel like i got tricked cause its supposed to be half jack herer which is a haze hybrid plus sannie told me it was real potent before i bought it. thinking back on it now i think alot of these europeans are making selections for yield and taste and not potency. the name of his main strain is called sannies jack which is half of kf and its not powerful, he must of backcrossed that shit 6 or 7 times so he selected what he wanted from sensi's jack herer and thats not potency know what im sayin
 

althor

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Lol u guys are funny

And I agree just agree to disagree ..

Here's my 2 cents ...I never grew any sannie strains ..but anybody who has smoked ..ECSD ..REAL ogs ..and shit loads of hazes and chem hybrids ..I wouldn't even GROW killing fields ..it might be strong to some but when ur talking about super potent super dank shit ..KILLING FIELDS is not even in the same room ! Of that convo ..eveeybody is entitled to there opinion ..everybody has a diff high tolerance ..so how can u be mad at some ones opinion ?

Atleast you admit you have never grown it. I grow OGs and hazes and more strains than I could possibly try to list. While KF is a much different buzz than OG that doesn't mean KF is weak. That is just silly to even suggest that.
 

kindnug

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I've had all the OG/Sourd Hybrids at the dispensaries but they still don't compare to the outdoor Skunk bagseed my friends and I grew in the 80's. The buds were as big as my arm when dried and very dense/sticky.

You could smell the plants over a 1/4 mile away and the buds would be so huge and dense > not rock hard nuggets.
Burned better in papers than the rock buds nowadays and it would put me in another world for 4-5 hours then sleepytime.

I wish I still had that pheno. from that time>it was one of a kind and I didn't know/care about cloning back then.

You can't smell OG/SourD much through a glass jar> That Skunk would stink up my entire house while inside sealed jars.
I don't even think dispensaries would stock it because it smelled that strong!It was more sativa than todays skunks.
 

puffntuff

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The real deal ohio strain Death Star reeks like that. Quadruple bagged and jarred and my whole fucking house smells
 

hsfkush

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What did I do wrong to my Mosca C99? I grew out a 10 pack and got 3 females. Looked awesome, smelled awesome, smoked awesome. ZERO... and i mean ZERO high.
Perhaps your tolerance to cannabis is much higher than most? I smoked the original brothers grimm c99 and for exactly one hour straight I couldn't stop laughing. I had muscle aches in my stomach for almost a week after from laughing so much.

I've also smoked a lot of stuff that was said to be potent and long lasting, but after the first initial smoke, It wouldn't last very long. I get tolerance build up very quick and I find it difficult to find a strain which hits me over and over again. However, the ones I have found are L.S.D, Stawberry Diesel, C99 and White Rhino. Those strains I just kept getting high/stoned off of them, even after a week of smoking L.S.D, I still get baked out of my brains on it!
 

Jogro

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Just ordered Williams Wonder, Green Crack and Pyscho Killer. It's like you read my mind!!
If you haven't already, please see my signature line for some pretty detailed grow reports on Sickmeds Williams Wonder and Green Crack S1.

The title of this thread is supposed to be "most underrated breeders".

I think Red from Sickmeds will be the first to tell you that he didn't breed William's Wonder. But he *did* spend quite a bit of money and time literally bringing this one back "from the dead" as a legendary inbred commercial strain from the late 1980s back to something you can buy ceeds for today.

IMO that's a much more impressive feat as a "breeder" than some guy who crosses a couple of existing clone only or commercial lines, into an F1, gives the cross some new name, then calls it his own.
 

Jogro

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What did I do wrong to my Mosca C99? I grew out a 10 pack and got 3 females. Looked awesome, smelled awesome, smoked awesome. ZERO... and i mean ZERO high.
How much experience growing do you have?

Without knowing specific details of your grow, reasons for low potency can include:

a. Poor genetics.
b. Early (or really late) harvest
c. Insufficient lighting during flowering, or poor spectrum lighting.
d. Poor temperature during flowering (too hot or too cold).

Obviously, there is a subjective factor too. Some strains induce tolerance quickly and if you're accustomed to smoking really strong stuff all the time, something less may seem unsatisfying. But if you usually smoke a variety of things, and most are OK, but one clearly isn't, that's the buds, not your tolerance.
 

apollo4

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With everything being said,the big old co,lost killed,most of their prized gems .theyre not what they once was.alpine seeds,kushman seeds ,oga , rare dankness leading the best seed game.
 

Corso312

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Gronk
3000........



How many days in flower? Only thing I can think of is you pulled em 2-2.5 weeks early.
 

Natural Gas

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With everything being said,the big old co,lost killed,most of their prized gems .theyre not what they once was.alpine seeds,kushman seeds ,oga , rare dankness leading the best seed game.
Hello apollo4, I do not know what criteria you use to define the best in the ceed game or who is leading in it...I also don't wish to engage in any controversy. I would, however, like to share with you some banks (and old time breeders) with product you may want to try and, perhaps, broaden your horizon. They do lack one aspect in the "ceed game" that aspect is "Hype"...Their products (very reasonably priced by the way) coupled with a reasonable application of experience might broaden your horizon, too, when it comes to using the "best" term...Woodhorse and Motarebel at meduser.ca ($40 for 10 ceeds of the original Herijuana) or the folks at Breeder's Boutique (Dog, Psycho Killer, Dippy Ellsy) and michael at Sickmeds...Google 'em...This is only three of many leaders...I trust you agree that one can not have too much knowledge or experience...Oh! and Rare Dankness is among the leaders in the ceed game...All the best.
 

Natural Gas

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Gronk3000...Don't give up. I've grown Mosca C99...Love it...Checked my grow journal. Bought 10 pack from "Seedsman" November 2011...All 10 sprouted. 4 males...16 week fairly easy first round. Cloned and dialed in to harvest one plant per week for nine months...Super smoke, good yield...My only cautionary note concerns light distance...Had leaf bleach with lights under 30 inches...Buy a book. A good place to start is Jorge Cervantes, "Marijuana Horticulture". Grow the same plant over and over till you get it dialed in. Don't need to begin with a $20 ceed...It is a very forgiving and easy plant to grow. Your product will get better as you gain experience...Smoking pot may not be addictive but growing it might be...FWIW
 

Corso312

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I have three c99 bx1 mosca. 4 week in flower now...the mom is 7 week in flower n looking nice...kinda a bitch to clone...the cuts sat in dome for 20 plus days b4 rooting.
 

Natural Gas

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I have three c99 bx1 mosca. 4 week in flower now...the mom is 7 week in flower n looking nice...kinda a bitch to clone...the cuts sat in dome for 20 plus days b4 rooting.
Corso, My journal says 14 days from cutting to gallon pots...After I take the cuttings I let sit for a day in about three inches of water into which I dissolved three regular aspirin (3 aspirin/one quart water) then Rapid Rooter (Rooters soaked in same aspirin water) method under 24hr T5...Clone rate is 80-90% No dome...Mist couple times a day when I think about it with a foliar solution I use...If you want my recipe just ask.
 
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