Butane Extraction – Bullshit ??

[Timmahh]

Bullfuckingshit. N butane has a higher boiling point than Iso butane so you would maybe have more residual solvent with the n butane than the iso butane. It's all about the proper purge. All the loop systems do is allow solvent recovery and lower incidence of flashing. But to say ISO makes poison and N butane does not just indicates you don't know jack squat.

you are correct.
The only difference between butane in a bic, and butane in a hospital is quality control and filtration for purification.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Ya, not going to work. that is a piss poor position to argue from.

Tell you what, I ll take your bet, Straight Butane against Straigt Water, Pour up a 16 oz glass of each at 70*f, you drink the water and i ll drink the butane after a short prayer. once the prayer is done, we ll chug our glasses, and see who stands the longest.

Point is, by the end of the prayer, you ll have to drink 16 oz of water, and i ll have an empty glass, as ALL the butane would of evaporated away.

Do that is a room that is 300*f, and you too will have an empty glass. Do it at 3*f, and now we have a problem.......

Your arguement is MUTE, because you do not take into your argument, all facets of each solvents properties.


Do you even know water IS classified as a Solvent?

Split hairs much?

Google is your friend. Look up butane ingestion. There is an emergency response protocol to it as long as my arm. It also states that it could result in death if not treated immediately. Now, I'm not suggesting that the trace amounts of it left in bho would cause any serious harm, but my response was directed at the comment "Insofar as safety is concerned, Butane and Water kill you the same way - suffocation. As long as you can avoid burning yourself to death, Butane toxicity is a Red Herring." Butane can in fact be toxic, and is in no way similar to water in that regard.

Again, red herring my ass.

 

[Kite High]

Split hairs much?

Google is your friend. Look up butane ingestion. There is an emergency response protocol to it as long as my arm. It also states that it could result in death if not treated immediately. Now, I'm not suggesting that the trace amounts of it left in bho would cause any serious harm, but my response was directed at the comment "Insofar as safety is concerned, Butane and Water kill you the same way - suffocation. As long as you can avoid burning yourself to death, Butane toxicity is a Red Herring." Butane can in fact be toxic, and is in no way similar to water in that regard.

Again, red herring my ass.

Water too is toxic. http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/hydrationandfluid/a/Hyponatremia.htm

the point here being that butane extractions are some how not as "pure" as water extraction and this is simply the reverse of reality

 

[st0wandgrow]

Water too is toxic. http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/hydrationandfluid/a/Hyponatremia.htm

the point here being that butane extractions are some how not as "pure" as water extraction and this is simply the reverse of reality

Yes Kite High, bravo. I was waiting for someone to trot out the fact that if you were to drink an astronomical amount of water in a short time, you can throw your body chemistry off to the point that you could die. You could also drown in a bowl of Cheerios too, but neither scenario is very plausible.

I never made any claim that bubble hash was more "pure" than bho. You're pulling that out of your arse. My point was that *I* prefer to extract trichomes without the use of a chemical that is not only toxic, but can also be dangerous to work with. I even went on to concede in a subsequent post that bho had a higher THC percentage than bubble hash! I'm failing to see where I've made any misrepresentations in this thread...

 

[abe supercro]

what are the casings of the resin glands made of?

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

The U-tube below is on using Everclear , I would think it would be better for ingesting if its being made for health reasons but probably not worth a shit if its being used to get high , they cook it off for 3 hours and then extract the oil , so would Butane be better for one oil and Everclear better for the other ?

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2TRc99VhHRY&NR=1



Abe , that’s a good question , I cant find anything on that , shows you think way outside the box , that’s cool .

 

[potsnoberry]

Split hairs much?

Google is your friend. Look up butane ingestion. There is an emergency response protocol to it as long as my arm. It also states that it could result in death if not treated immediately. Now, I'm not suggesting that the trace amounts of it left in bho would cause any serious harm, but my response was directed at the comment "Insofar as safety is concerned, Butane and Water kill you the same way - suffocation. As long as you can avoid burning yourself to death, Butane toxicity is a Red Herring." Butane can in fact be toxic, and is in no way similar to water in that regard.

Again, red herring my ass.

Again, you're an ass, and a stubborn stupid one at that. You really don't know what you're talking about and are such an angry nit I see no benefit in enlightening said twit...

but for the smart folk out there, terpenes are produced in the bulbous trichome a, CBD's in the capitate sessile trichomes - neither of which can be sieved by bubble bags.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Again, you're an ass, and a stubborn stupid one at that. You really don't know what you're talking about and are such an angry nit I see no benefit in enlightening said twit...

but for the smart folk out there, terpenes are produced in the bulbous trichome a, CBD's in the capitate sessile trichomes - neither of which can be sieved by bubble bags.

Instead of the name calling, post up some proof that ice water extraction leaves the terpines and cbd's behind.

I'm always open to learning something new ......

 

[Huel Perkins]

Again, you're an ass, and a stubborn stupid one at that. You really don't know what you're talking about and are such an angry nit I see no benefit in enlightening said twit...

but for the smart folk out there, terpenes are produced in the bulbous trichome a, CBD's in the capitate sessile trichomes - neither of which can be sieved by bubble bags.

False.....

 

[Timmahh]

Have some BHO properly purged tested for contaminants, and then have that bubble hash tested Unless you are using Distilled, or RO water, you will find more contaminants in the Bubble Hash. Also it will have a fair bit of flavor due to the removal of the waxes in the water processing, but not all the oils.

Obviously only a few here are aware Butane is used Copiously in the Food Processing Industry, and even less have an understanding of Chemistry. the Biggest Issue with BHO is proper ventilation so one doesnt blow oneself up. Along with the recapture of the butane, the lack of vapor created in the evaporation process, thus decreased chance of explosion is where the recapture units like the Tansumi and the other unit comes into play.

Of course a full purge is key. but that is not a hard issue to tackle correctly.

Fwiw, Alcohol is cited as the cause of 75000 deaths a year due to health issue, sclerosis of the liver, stroke, heart disease ect....

I thought I had eluded to the fact too much water will kill someone previously, but maybe i was just thinking it and didnt mention it. But the point being, anything can and will kill you in the right situation. Water, alcohol, air, butane, peanut butter, strawberries, honey ect...
But having an Unfounded FEAR of Butane is as OCD of having an Overactive fear of Germs, where one has to wash their hands 1000 times a day... Point is, your body has more GERMS on it that will/can kill you than butane has ways to kill you.

Shit, everyone has a bacteria in their stomachs, and if it were to somehow get to your brain, you would have swiss cheese for a brain in less than a week.

 

[Murfy]

i thought-

the reason this unit was made to food prep standard was its use in making food grade extracts.

 

[Timmahh]

that is my understanding as well Murphy. The end result of the Tansumi unit was to make the unit so it would qualify through the very regulated food service/production industry.