True I could fit more plants and possibly veg less with the 1000.
Those dual bulbs do look intriguing if I choose the 1k that's what I'll use.
Is one 600 watt enough for a few trees?
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Those dual bulbs do look intriguing if I choose the 1k that's what I'll use.
Clown Baby
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the dual bulbs are essentially a 600w hps and a 400w mh. It's not the true output of either a 1000w mh or hps.
1itsme
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im doing 5 plants @ a 600w vert atm with the plants trained to trellises i made with bamboo and wire (looks like a ladder) so the plants are flat facing the light like a scrog. this is my first vert attempt but it looks to me like i could get 7-8 plants around the bulb without getting too far from it. i dont see light penetration being an issue if you screen the plants or trellis them. the differences between a 600 and 100 watt bulb are 3ft vert vrs 4 ft vert of full light and also a bigger circle for the 1000. the 1000 costs 40% more to run and puts out alot more heat. you could get away with bigger plants with the 1000 esp if you dont train them. personally i like the 600 and would run 2x 600 in a figure 8 before i would consider a 1000, but thats just my opinion. 1000's do seem to have an advantage in bud density tho, altho idk if thats tru in a vert setup as well. the way i set up eath plant is getting almost 6 sq ft of good light area, vrs maybe 1.2- 1.6 sq ft in the horozontal setup i was using b4.
Alexander Supertramp
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Turning your pots each day will help better your yield. Not a grand amount but still an improvement. And it dosent cost a penny to turn a pot, free additional yield.
I use to do the 1/4 turn a day. But now I do a half turn at lights on. And then another half turn at the half way through lights on. Each half of the plant gets equal time directly exposed to the light each day.
Ou8aCracker2
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If doing vert properly,you shouldn't turn your plants,at all...
When doing a donut with or without screens,one would want to veg vertical because when you veg vertical the plant kinda bends toward the light and branches will do the same.Hack off the back branches that won't get any/much light (and would steal energy from prime branches/budsites) or train them to the front of the plant where they will get more light.
Now when growing horizontal you may want to turn the plants on the outer edge of the footprint 1/4 turn a day for uniform secondary branch growth,ir even if you're growing under a vert parabolic hood (which isn't as good as bare bulb IMO...and most growers using parabolics are stil growing using a horizontal canopy rather than a vertical canopy.
If wanting to do 4'-6' + trees (actual trees) I think Heath Robinson had it right...Five bulbs total,one in each corner of a room with one in the center,hung vertical bare bulb,with four plants in the room,one on each wall (no need to turn plants but you could if you wanted to) so it would look like this:
(X= bulb,O= plant)
X O X
O X O
X O X
When doing a donut with or without screens,one would want to veg vertical because when you veg vertical the plant kinda bends toward the light and branches will do the same.Hack off the back branches that won't get any/much light (and would steal energy from prime branches/budsites) or train them to the front of the plant where they will get more light.
Now when growing horizontal you may want to turn the plants on the outer edge of the footprint 1/4 turn a day for uniform secondary branch growth,ir even if you're growing under a vert parabolic hood (which isn't as good as bare bulb IMO...and most growers using parabolics are stil growing using a horizontal canopy rather than a vertical canopy.
If wanting to do 4'-6' + trees (actual trees) I think Heath Robinson had it right...Five bulbs total,one in each corner of a room with one in the center,hung vertical bare bulb,with four plants in the room,one on each wall (no need to turn plants but you could if you wanted to) so it would look like this:
(X= bulb,O= plant)
X O X
O X O
X O X
Ou8aCracker2
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The corners kind of act as a hood/reflector if you will,seeing as everything that isn't green should be covered in reflextix,mylar,or reflective film of choice.
I believe Heath did a run with the 5x 600w HPS's with only two plants in the room...one at one end and the other at the opposite end...each plant weighed something around 72 ounces each...that's a lot of weight.I think he said something about how each plant used the equivelant of 900w...I'll try and find the thread for you.
Ou8aCracker2
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Here you go https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=181239
He used a 12'x11' room,but only half of it.He hung 5x 600w HPS Bulbs vertical with two plants in this fashion (plants=X and lights=O)
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And harvested 76oz per plant...considering each plant gets about 1500-1800w of light that's a 1.18 to 1.41 GPW.
He said he vegged for 8 werks with a 400w HPS hung bare-bulb vertical between the two plants...check out the thread there's a ton of info in there and when it comes to growing vert,HR is the man...plus if you search the net for his threads he gives out plans on practically all his setups.
He used a 12'x11' room,but only half of it.He hung 5x 600w HPS Bulbs vertical with two plants in this fashion (plants=X and lights=O)
0.....................................0
.........x........0..........x
0......................................0
And harvested 76oz per plant...considering each plant gets about 1500-1800w of light that's a 1.18 to 1.41 GPW.
He said he vegged for 8 werks with a 400w HPS hung bare-bulb vertical between the two plants...check out the thread there's a ton of info in there and when it comes to growing vert,HR is the man...plus if you search the net for his threads he gives out plans on practically all his setups.