Are there any religious tokers out there?

Hugo Phurst

Hugo Phurst

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The Growery said:
And if so, how do you justify it since according to Christians marijuana is a temptation from the Devil.
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So I don't have to read the whole Bible....Book, Chapter, and verse please. Elsewise it's just somebody's rhetoric.

Jesus hung out with all the low-lifes and partiers of his time, we know that he drank and that his girlfriend/wife was a prostitute...so how's it a stretch that he smoked herb too.

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. - Laurence J Peter.

Peace
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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It is a sin to become intoxicated from any substance in the bible... take it or leave it. But most people just ignore the parts about the bible that they don't like in order to justify their own behaviors. Either way, it is your decision.
 
Mister Sister

Mister Sister

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Hard to say because I'm not religious.

I will say this, I know that I do not need MJ, but I have still used it. If all paths lead to the same end eventually, it's hard to justify the argument in either direction.

As an addict, MJ has proven to be very ego-satisfying. I have been known to make up any number of excuses to condone my use of it. If you believe in the correlation of the devil and the ego (as I do) then it would seem that the bible is 'right' in a sense; It is absolutely a temptation. But at the same time it is a teacher.
 
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ilikecheetoes

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Zaehet Strife said:
It is a sin to become intoxicated from any substance in the bible... take it or leave it. But most people just ignore the parts about the bible that they don't like in order to justify their own behaviors. Either way, it is your decision.
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chapter and verse please. Doesnt it qualify intoxication with beating your wife and other shit you arent supposed to be doing like being a sloth? cassia is in the holy annointing oil
Although this is old testament meaning only Jews have to live by this law:
Exodus 30, verses 22-30: 22 Then the LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. . . .30 “Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests.”


 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Who would worship a god that had a rule that if you break it sends you to an infinite place of torment and torture?

In what reality could such a being still be considered omnibenevolent?
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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ilikecheetoes said:
chapter and verse please. Doesnt it qualify intoxication with beating your wife and other shit you arent supposed to be doing like being a sloth? cassia is in the holy annointing oil
Although this is old testament meaning only Jews have to live by this law:
Exodus 30, verses 22-30: 22 Then the LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. . . .30 “Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests.”
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You know what i hate more than anything, as an Atheist, i have read the bible front to back multiple times... and 99% of every Christian i have ever met has never read the entire thing, or lies about reading the entire thing, which is sin in itself.

Please, familiarize yourself with your faith if you wish to be a true follower of a certain religion. But like i said before, Christians usually take the parts out of the bible that they like, and ignore the rest, in order to justify their behavior in the eyes of the lord.

Thessalonians 5:6-8 - Being sober is the opposite of being drunk and is associated with being alert and watchful.


Peter 1:13-17 - Be sober, gird up the loins of your mind so you can avoid lusts and be obedient and holy. This requires being alert.


Peter 5:8,9 - Be sober so we can be on guard for the devil, resist him, and not be devoured by him. Realizing how dangerous Satan is, we should keep our minds clear so we can recognize his deceit and resist his temptations.


Corinthians 9:25-27 - Bring our bodies into subjection to our minds, exercising temperance (self-control) like athletes in training, so our bodies will be properly guided by our minds.


Proverbs 4:23 - Keep your heart (mind) with all diligence because it must decide the issues of life.


Struggling against evil is difficult and dangerous at best, even with the clearest of faculties. That is why God has forbidden intoxication. There are other ways to violate these principles, but drug abuse is surely one way.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Zaehet Strife said:
You know what i hate more than anything, as an Atheist, i have read the bible front to back multiple times... and 99% of every Christian i have ever met has never read the entire thing, or lies about reading the entire thing, which is sin in itself.

Please, familiarize yourself with your faith if you wish to be a true follower of a certain religion. But like i said before, Christians usually take the parts out of the bible that they like, and ignore the rest, in order to justify their behavior in the eyes of the lord.
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They don't need to read the bible since they just have to use google to "justify" their actions. Wanna kill somebody but you don't wanna read the bible to check if god is fine with murder?
Just google bible verses about murder and interpret it your own way. Bam, you've just justified your actions without knowing anything about the bible. :)
 
nameno

nameno

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I don't believe in religion,it's the relationship that's important to me.IMO that's what is important. About cannabis,I tried to find a way to justify smoking to no avail.I have learned to bless it before I partake. It also raises my spirituality. I have been bankrupt money wise & I've been bankrupt spiritually,money is easy to get back,the other one (spiritually) is more important. The use of many things are for our benefit,it's the abuse he doesn't like.Every word in the BIBLE is GOD breathed.
 
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silasraven

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The Growery said:
And if so, how do you justify it since according to Christians marijuana is a temptation from the Devil.
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its not, it was given to us by God and when a boozer doesn't like it they pray with witch craft , thats 2 separate words for a reason, for it to be screwed up because they are jealous God trusted us with it and not them. dont put this on Christians like that. so some bible thumper has a hard on for the book and cant give up not searching for God in it but search without objects to seek him. there a verse in the bibile there is not life in the readings of Christ but in Christ himself. they hate you because they feel because you are calm and collected in mind body and spirit God gave you something special. it the "im bigger than you because im a pastor" syndrome. God told me to speak against these churches of hell. put faith in God not man.
 
thatboyis1uvakind

thatboyis1uvakind

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Christianity is just a religion...like buddism....etc etc etc.....ppl like to feel like they "belong" to something....religion is just a belief. ....founded upon "stories".....none of its real......if u choose to believe these stories an participate in these things good for u...hope its working for u...but keep this in mind...in the book it says we we were made like god....in gods image....if thats so then its only in our nature to be god like...perfection...to attain divinity. ...which we cannot.....its all just a fucked up sick joke man......aliens put us here....duh
 
thatboyis1uvakind

thatboyis1uvakind

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But to answer ur question if there is a god hes def not anti weed....weeds good man...it calms the spirit....eases the soul..the mind....theres are things on this planet that are devilish...weeds def not one of em
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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I smoke religiously, I don't see why it needs to be justified by Christian standards, but if you need some reason for it to be justified, in the Bible it says we are ordained over all animals and the seed bearing plants are GIFTS from god to us. So I justify it like anyone else justifies accepting a gift from god. Why do you accept your child's birth? Why do you accept what planet you live on? Why do you accept that you have to breath all day, eat every now and then, and shit?
 
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