nuckyt
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I gotta agree with Kermit The Frog man LEDS suck
New to rollitup.org - New CFL Grower - Think I may have issues already. Help!
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Bakatare666
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Where you been man?
Let's see what you been up to.
natro.hydro
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man we were over this argument, everyone thinks they are right.... I personally do not see as close of node growth with mh or hps as led or when done properly cfl/fluoros. No need to start trolling.... Lets see some of your plants tough guy.... I am not using leds atm but here is a shot of my girls under my Inda-gro, and actually it has leds for supplement since I just put a pfr pntoon in.
No hate but you come in to halos thread and rehash old shit from like a month a go just to stir shit up.. and I find myself asking who cares or who even asked for your opinion on LEDs? Got any links for these horrendous grows or maybe the name of the light they used. I took a gamble on some cheap chinese lights and got burned on it, it only happened once and now I know what to look for. I thought I could get them cheaper than the inflated prices we see here, and you can but you have to sift through the shit cuz there are tons of companies... A little knowledge about the new generation of leds hitting the market and I think you would be singing a different tune, obviously not everyone has the money for bleeding edge tech but after a few harvests why not reinvest in your girls?
No hate but you come in to halos thread and rehash old shit from like a month a go just to stir shit up.. and I find myself asking who cares or who even asked for your opinion on LEDs? Got any links for these horrendous grows or maybe the name of the light they used. I took a gamble on some cheap chinese lights and got burned on it, it only happened once and now I know what to look for. I thought I could get them cheaper than the inflated prices we see here, and you can but you have to sift through the shit cuz there are tons of companies... A little knowledge about the new generation of leds hitting the market and I think you would be singing a different tune, obviously not everyone has the money for bleeding edge tech but after a few harvests why not reinvest in your girls?
nuckyt
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Heres some pics of what I have going now challenge accepted lol. The big one I way over feed on nitrogen but shes bounced back and producing nicely. The little ones are vanilla kush and liberty haze about 3 1/2 weeks old. 
Just going by what I've seen in real life but those look nice. I get really good short bushy veg under cfl myself, but I dont like messing with all those light bulbs. I went with mh/hps with my 2nd grow and they do get alot bigger at least, but no argument on vegging with floros or cfls they work great. Flowering under the hps however there is no comparison I'm going to get 10 times the yieldman we were over this argument, everyone thinks they are right.... I personally do not see as close of node growth with mh or hps as led or when done properly cfl/fluoros. No need to start trolling.... Lets see some of your plants tough guy.... I am not using leds atm but here is a shot of my girls under my Inda-gro, and actually it has leds for supplement since I just put a pfr pntoon in.
No hate but you come in to halos thread and rehash old shit from like a month a go just to stir shit up.. and I find myself asking who cares or who even asked for your opinion on LEDs? Got any links for these horrendous grows or maybe the name of the light they used. I took a gamble on some cheap chinese lights and got burned on it, it only happened once and now I know what to look for. I thought I could get them cheaper than the inflated prices we see here, and you can but you have to sift through the shit cuz there are tons of companies... A little knowledge about the new generation of leds hitting the market and I think you would be singing a different tune, obviously not everyone has the money for bleeding edge tech but after a few harvests why not reinvest in your girls?
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nuckyt
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I go into hiding between grows lol. This is what I have going now Sweet tooth Liberty Haze and Vanilla Kush
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haoleflip
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I know my plants don't look too well, but honestly they are looking a lot better from when I first started out. While I may be a quick learner with other things in life, I think it is safe to say that I definitely don't have a green thumb. However, I am going to have to learn this because this summer I am planning on starting an organic garden on my property (believe it or not lol. I know, "good luck," right?), so I figured that learning how to grow Marijuana would be a good start. My problem from the start was that I was doing research in the wrong places, I guess. Or that may not be the problem. The problem may be the environment that I have them in or the temperature I have them in or even my lights? I'm not even sure, but I am starting to notice stunted growth on a couple of them already. Here I thought I was going to be ok because I finally got some quality soil. I just don't know what the issue is, but I am not one to give up easily! 22 pages later on this thread; I should have been in flowering already! Anyhow, I've got two of the older ones drooping now. I'll post an update in just a sec.
Apomixis is right, he came here doing the same thing and I told him I didn't like it. He apologized, I apologized and now he is helping me a lot and I appreciate it. I expect you to maybe do the same. I see your plants look great! Please help out and feed me some of your knowledge! As you can see, I need it! Any help from anyone is appreciated. And yeah man, like I said, I agree my plants look like shit or they don't look like they are doing good lol and I've accepted that. Now I am trying to do different things to get things running smoothly!
Apomixis is right, he came here doing the same thing and I told him I didn't like it. He apologized, I apologized and now he is helping me a lot and I appreciate it. I expect you to maybe do the same. I see your plants look great! Please help out and feed me some of your knowledge! As you can see, I need it! Any help from anyone is appreciated. And yeah man, like I said, I agree my plants look like shit or they don't look like they are doing good lol and I've accepted that. Now I am trying to do different things to get things running smoothly!
RIKNSTEIN
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Wow, you know I don't go looking for TROLLS, they seem to pop up everywhere though. Dude, really, have some consideration for others. Act like you're talking to your brother or something, you know the one that kicks your ass for talkin smack...lmao..no really man this is supposed to be fun, not let's take your agression out on some poor shmo who doesn't deserve to hear your crap.
And dude they're fine, you're doin good.
Bakatare666
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I know it's tough sometimes dude, but try to take everything in a constructive way.
If you had been growing for 10 years under your current conditions, then ya, people would laugh at your lack of effort, but you're just starting out, and it IS a learning experience, I don't care HOW MUCH you read.
RIKNSTEIN
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natro.hydro
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We have established the plants are not in great standing.... While yours do not look terrible you can see we are all susceptible to problems, mine look nice now but about a month ago they were not looking too hot. That being said get off ops nuts and let him learn.
I will say the same thing I said to the frog since that seems to be the bone you are picking. HPS work, they have for a long time, but now there is a more efficient technology and people refuse to accept it because there is ridiculous amounts of propaganda. Not saying they are the best thing to come along since sliced bread but more like the discovery of toast feel me? This new gen of lights is unbelievable with all the new tech. I am pretty interested in procyon's daylight mimicking program.. Can not do that with your fancy hps, just dim em.
Haleo: You have any idea what your temps/rh is at? If not I would grab a 20 dollar digi thermometer from menards/home depot so you have an idea. Are you ph'ing your water (can not remember what you said although I am sure it has been said sorry), and if not are you willing to drink your water straight out of the tap? IF not I would not water with this water unpurified/treated. I do not think it is your lights unless you have them way too close which is hard since its cfls but can be done.
I will say the same thing I said to the frog since that seems to be the bone you are picking. HPS work, they have for a long time, but now there is a more efficient technology and people refuse to accept it because there is ridiculous amounts of propaganda. Not saying they are the best thing to come along since sliced bread but more like the discovery of toast feel me? This new gen of lights is unbelievable with all the new tech. I am pretty interested in procyon's daylight mimicking program.. Can not do that with your fancy hps, just dim em.
Haleo: You have any idea what your temps/rh is at? If not I would grab a 20 dollar digi thermometer from menards/home depot so you have an idea. Are you ph'ing your water (can not remember what you said although I am sure it has been said sorry), and if not are you willing to drink your water straight out of the tap? IF not I would not water with this water unpurified/treated. I do not think it is your lights unless you have them way too close which is hard since its cfls but can be done.
Apomixis
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I am time lapsing my lil girl as we speak, 15 min intervals, so that should be awesome... Don't know how to upload it on RIU but I will figure it out. I've already seen the last two weeks, and god it's cool..
haoleflip
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SEE?? GRRRRRRR!! What is going on with my grow?? *Bashes head into wall*
But no really, I'm tired of running into issues and every time I see pics like this it makes me sad haha.
And from seeing this, mine obviously have stunted growth, too! Argh!
Bakatare666
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Your plant is riding the short bus right now, but she'll pull out of it man, just be patient.
haoleflip
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Here is an entire breakdown update for anyone just now coming into the conversation who are looking to help me out:
Here is my small corner grow room. It is about 4 x 4 x 6 ft tall. I know it looks bad, but I made due with what I had available.
The ambient temperature is around 72-78 degrees F and the humidity is about 30-35% according to my digital reader.
I currently have 4 "Cool White" 26w, 4100k, 1700 lumens CFLs and 1 "Warm Light" 26w, 2700k, 1750 lumens CFL. They are about 4-5 inches away from the plants.
I also have a cheap humidifier and a small computer fan that I rigged to the base of the foil tin the cups are sitting in.
Things I already know that are wrong and will be fixing soon:
1. Foil lining
2. Dark blanket or tarp to cover during dark hours.
Anything else you can add?
Here are the 6 plants I currently have, in order of which I think are healthiest:
These two are the newest that I started in the Fox Farm Light Warrior and added a bit of my own perlite, too. They showed first sign of seedling on 3/10, so they are about 9 days old.
Although, I'm not sure why the leaves appear to be drooping.
This one is my oldest. Had 1 soil transfer from my old crappy MG soil to new Fox Farm Light Warrior, so a bit of stress on the first leaves, but the new growth looks ok other than the leaves starting to droop. I saw first sign of the seedling on 2/27, so it is about 3 weeks old:
This one looked good in the picture I posted a couple of days ago, but since then it has been going downhill. I had this one transferred from the MG into the Fox Farm from after like day 2. Now on day 14 and it is yellowing, has spots and leaves are drooping:
Things I want to note:
My soil gets real dry after 3-4 days. I do the finger 2-3 inches in the soil method and sometimes it's so dry it's real hard and takes some force to get my finger down into the soil. When I finally do, the soil just crumbles and seems real dry. Therefore, I have watered just a little bit to get the soil evenly damp. Maybe the drooping is because of over-watering like I've been reading? I just don't get it, if the soil is dry doesn't it need water? Or do I keep it dry for a certain amount of time?
Also, concerning pH, I have a crappy rapid test analog stick that I stick in the soil. The only problem is I don't think it works well because when I put it into my soil or tap water it only seems to move from like 5.8-6.2, so not a very big difference if it is detecting correctly.
And there ya go. For anyone who is just joining us, you've been filled in!
Here is my small corner grow room. It is about 4 x 4 x 6 ft tall. I know it looks bad, but I made due with what I had available.
The ambient temperature is around 72-78 degrees F and the humidity is about 30-35% according to my digital reader.
I currently have 4 "Cool White" 26w, 4100k, 1700 lumens CFLs and 1 "Warm Light" 26w, 2700k, 1750 lumens CFL. They are about 4-5 inches away from the plants.
I also have a cheap humidifier and a small computer fan that I rigged to the base of the foil tin the cups are sitting in.
Things I already know that are wrong and will be fixing soon:
1. Foil lining
2. Dark blanket or tarp to cover during dark hours.
Anything else you can add?
Here are the 6 plants I currently have, in order of which I think are healthiest:
These two are the newest that I started in the Fox Farm Light Warrior and added a bit of my own perlite, too. They showed first sign of seedling on 3/10, so they are about 9 days old.
Although, I'm not sure why the leaves appear to be drooping.
This one is my oldest. Had 1 soil transfer from my old crappy MG soil to new Fox Farm Light Warrior, so a bit of stress on the first leaves, but the new growth looks ok other than the leaves starting to droop. I saw first sign of the seedling on 2/27, so it is about 3 weeks old:
This one looked good in the picture I posted a couple of days ago, but since then it has been going downhill. I had this one transferred from the MG into the Fox Farm from after like day 2. Now on day 14 and it is yellowing, has spots and leaves are drooping:
Things I want to note:
My soil gets real dry after 3-4 days. I do the finger 2-3 inches in the soil method and sometimes it's so dry it's real hard and takes some force to get my finger down into the soil. When I finally do, the soil just crumbles and seems real dry. Therefore, I have watered just a little bit to get the soil evenly damp. Maybe the drooping is because of over-watering like I've been reading? I just don't get it, if the soil is dry doesn't it need water? Or do I keep it dry for a certain amount of time?
Also, concerning pH, I have a crappy rapid test analog stick that I stick in the soil. The only problem is I don't think it works well because when I put it into my soil or tap water it only seems to move from like 5.8-6.2, so not a very big difference if it is detecting correctly.
And there ya go. For anyone who is just joining us, you've been filled in!
Apomixis
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Your plants are busy forming a root system and once that happens to a satisfactory degree, the top will correspond. Trust us! Plants are like steam engines, they take some time to get rolling, but when they do you can almost see them grow. Especially with repair, there is a great hurdle to get over.
Now, if you were to start over again with new seeds and your new knowledge, you would see growth exactly like in the pics above and you would be quite proud. However, I respect your dedication, and feel it will pay off in skill. It's worth it. You will learn how to read these plants... Get to know how they communicate their needs... Water, light, nutrients.. You want to learn this on raggedy plants, not some fancy genetics like other people do. Once you can talk the talk with them, buy some fancy genetics and *poof* you're like Mr Fantastic and his dialed setup. One thing at a time.
This is most certainly an opportunity.
Now, if you were to start over again with new seeds and your new knowledge, you would see growth exactly like in the pics above and you would be quite proud. However, I respect your dedication, and feel it will pay off in skill. It's worth it. You will learn how to read these plants... Get to know how they communicate their needs... Water, light, nutrients.. You want to learn this on raggedy plants, not some fancy genetics like other people do. Once you can talk the talk with them, buy some fancy genetics and *poof* you're like Mr Fantastic and his dialed setup. One thing at a time.
This is most certainly an opportunity.
natro.hydro
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Wats your water situation like? That is the only thing that is coming to mind with those atm, wouldn't say its a deficiency but if you wanna feed em to rule it out be my guest.... if anything your ph is causing a lockout, as apo pointed out peat can have its ph problems, but fox farms does a good job of balancing with dolomite lime imo so it would seem to me you should invest in a simple pur water filter for your tap.
Bakatare666
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Your "bad" one is probably just in shock from moving while so young.
Just give it time and ride it out........
Not much to do now, but wait and watch.
The foliage growth will pick up like Apox says, just look at the diff in mine from day 6-8 or something like that.
I was just the opposite of you though, and starting to get some yellowing, so when I watered yesterday, I gave a teeny shot of food.
haoleflip
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Just updated the post above with info on water, sorry.
Man, you're right I should have kept one in the MG. Ahh well...