Rand Paul is for amnesty. How much of his support he gonna lose

deprave

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most libertarians agree with Rand on this stuff generally, its the conservatives that are against it, yes that includes people who call themselves libertarians.

you will hear derogatory terms from these types such as "open-borders libertarian" and from the real extreme you will hear things like that he supports an NWO UN alliance between North America lol, but these aren't libertarians, they are conservatives. This is the lame stream media label they try to put on libertarians, for example glenn beck, sarah palin, ted nugent..those people aren't libertarians its just a stereotype they try to paint on us.
 

UncleBuck

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last time i checked, randy pawl was taking campaign donations from neo-nazis and working with his daddy and white supremacists last election cycle. is that still going on, or is he trying to clean that up in anticipation of 2016 too?
 

Canna Sylvan

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most libertarians agree with Rand on this stuff generally, its the conservatives that are against it, yes that includes people who call themselves libertarians.

you will hear derogatory terms from these types such as "open-borders libertarian" and from the real extreme you will hear things like that he supports an NWO UN alliance between North America lol, but these aren't libertarians, they are conservatives. This is the lame stream media label they try to put on libertarians, for example glenn beck, sarah palin, ted nugent..those people aren't libertarians its just a stereotype they try to paint on us.
Why should the US foot the medical bills for those from other countries who don't treat everyone who just shows up?

I'll agree with you if illegals don't get any constitutional rights, no welfare, police protection or any other privilege afforded full citizens, either born or naturalized, or those who hold a valid visa.

Otherwise you get treated at the ER like any other indigenous animal, like a deer. When was the last time you heard of a deer getting treated at an ER for free?

Those illegals are the responsibility of their respective country. I'll even be charitable and any illegal can have a free plane trip back to their country so they can have their needs met
 

UncleBuck

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Once again Bucky you have displayed your incredible stupidity in thinking that America can not close the border... You are true fucktard Bucky
of course we could close the border. put several thousand soldiers along the several thousand miles long border in such a fashion that every soldier can see the soldier to his or her right. pay thousands of soldiers to stand there doing that 24/7.

the result will be us spending billions of dollars to only half-solve a "problem" that adds billions of dollars to our economies. millions of people will be prevented from working jobs that americans demonstrably won't work, paying federal taxes that they will never receive back under false SS numbers, paying state taxes just the same, paying sales taxes, gas taxes, property taxes, and more.

while we're at it, why don't we just spend billions of dollars to deport all these people, thereby crippling may local economies and bankrupting countless farmers?

do you even realize that about half of all illegal immigrants come here legally? and you call me a fucktard.
 

ginwilly

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of course we could close the border. put several thousand soldiers along the several thousand miles long border in such a fashion that every soldier can see the soldier to his or her right. pay thousands of soldiers to stand there doing that 24/7.

the result will be us spending billions of dollars to only half-solve a "problem" that adds billions of dollars to our economies. millions of people will be prevented from working jobs that americans demonstrably won't work, paying federal taxes that they will never receive back under false SS numbers, paying state taxes just the same, paying sales taxes, gas taxes, property taxes, and more.

while we're at it, why don't we just spend billions of dollars to deport all these people, thereby crippling may local economies and bankrupting countless farmers?

do you even realize that about half of all illegal immigrants come here legally? and you call me a fucktard.
I think we are on the same side on this one UB but I had to laugh at the first paragraph. My first thought was we have troops in over 100 countries around the world, I'd almost rather pay them to be here. Almost...
 

ginwilly

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How many thousands of agents do we have on our southern border now?
Oh I wasn't serious about our army guarding the border. I was just thinking out loud that it would be preferable to me than how they are utilized now. I would rather just trim the fat instead of moving it, but that ain't happening.
 

ChesusRice

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Oh I wasn't serious about our army guarding the border. I was just thinking out loud that it would be preferable to me than how they are utilized now. I would rather just trim the fat instead of moving it, but that ain't happening.
Nixon had this habit of closing military bases in his oppositions districts
 

ginwilly

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Nixon had this habit of closing military bases in his oppositions districts
If you think that's bad. He also took us off the gold standard. Which essentially took the world off the gold standard giving ultimate power to the central banking cartel.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Oh I wasn't serious about our army guarding the border. I was just thinking out loud that it would be preferable to me than how they are utilized now. I would rather just trim the fat instead of moving it, but that ain't happening.
I'm very serious about doing just that. How much money and lives would we save protecting ourselves domestically rather than abroad.
 

ginwilly

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Canna I'm sure more lives would be saved than having them on a base in Tunisia or other remote place. I just don't think that's the purpose of a standing army. Now if you want to use the National Gaurd I could stomache that better
 

Canna Sylvan

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that's fucking funny.



the brown men.
Nope, very few brown people are communists. Many of them might be bible thumpers, but not enough of them are communist to be a threat.

The real threat is the white perpetual school nerd commie who likes to pretend they're some other better culture. But all they really are is a pathetic virgin girly bitch, who can't ever get the pussy they so much desire.

I really hope you didn't get offended and think I was talking about you. Because one day you can aspire to be that guy.

Gambare!
 

UncleBuck

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Nope, very few brown people are communists. Many of them might be bible thumpers, but not enough of them are communist to be a threat.

The real threat is the white perpetual school nerd commie who likes to pretend they're some other better culture. But all they really are is a pathetic virgin girly bitch, who can't ever get the pussy they so much desire.

I really hope you didn't get offended and think I was talking about you. Because one day you can aspire to be that guy.

Gambare!
racist rabbit is angry.

i blame his wife's BBC.
 
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