abandonconflict
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Hierarchy: a state of obedience and subjugation.
Tea baggers love feudalism.
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nontheist
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anarchist:Hierarchy: a state of obedience and subjugation.
Nuttiest of all Fruitcakes
Dr Kynes
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[h=2]an·ar·chy[/h] [an-er-kee] Show IPA
noun 1. a state of society without government or law.
2. political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3. anarchism ( def 1 ) .
4. lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination: the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5. confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith. It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves.
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.
whaaaaaattt!!!???!!! lets see that again...
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.
Synonyms: Chaos
Synonyms: Chaos
Synonyms: Chaos
Synonyms: Chaos
yep... thats a handy protip.
Dr Kynes
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[h=2]hi·er·ar·chy[/h] [hahy-uh-rahr-kee, hahy-rahr-] Show IPA
noun, plural hi·er·ar·chies. 1. any system of persons or things ranked one above another.
2. government by ecclesiastical rulers.
3. the power or dominion of a hierarch.
4. an organized body of ecclesiastical officials in successive ranks or orders: the Roman Catholic hierarchy.
5. one of the three divisions of the angels, each made up of three orders, conceived as constituting a graded body.
ohh Dictionary.Com , why are you so oppressive to our special snowflake?
heirarchy is a system of order with things or persons arrainged in layes, bot higher and lower, superior and inferior, much like cannabis is found within a hierarchical order of rosacea, and cannibacea, and fnally ruderalis, sativa and indica.
but if it pleases you to imagine hierarchy is based on oppression of the workers, then by all means since this is at least logical, if not absolute.
hierarchies are also found in all but the most egalitarian of communes, since eventually somebody must speak for the group, and one voice speaks clearer than many.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I agree with this, because I am by nature a team player. I have spent time around those who are not, and they and I don't "get" each other at a visceral level.
A working society controls its worst members without too severely burdening its best. Jmo. cn
abandonconflict
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My book shelves are full of anarchists too. Definitely not chaotic though, actually quite orderly. None of the books rule one another.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
My notebooks disagree - they are bound and ruled.
cn
Dr Kynes
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from anyone else that would get a lol, but not from you.
you are once again ignoring the evidence which clearly shows you are WRONG, and instead focusing on a semantic vagary which you think will be a convenient escape hatch.
anarchy, as a political LACK of system is the issue, not the literary uses of the word as metaphor or simile.
anarchy IS chaos, but you wish to re-define it as freedom, despite the undeniable truth, Anarchy invariably results in somebody establishing an Archy, and usually that takes the form of Monarchy, or Oligarchy.
anarchy is a condition of lawlessness, and this provides opportunity to the real bastards, unless the respectable people band together against the bastards, the bastards will invariably impose their own order upon the people, and thats rarely in the interests of freedom or liberty.
anarchy is a detestable condition, and the people who claim it as a "philosophy" are fools just waiting to be dominated, or nefarious bastards who are preparing to pounce once the fools drop their arms in the river and gather to sing in the village square.
abandonconflict
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Fine, Anarchy is chaos.
I kind of like the word chaos anyway.
Anarchy is still not capitalism.
Neither is chaos.
I kind of like the word chaos anyway.
Anarchy is still not capitalism.
Neither is chaos.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I think one of the points is that anarchy is a condition, while anarchism is a political philosophy. cn
Dr Kynes
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nobody is arguing that it is, except YOU!
fire is not wet.
if i repeatedly insist that FIRE IS NOT WET in every manner possible, and reiterate it over and over again, when NOBODY else is saying fire is wet, then im a fool arguing with myself, or im trying to create the meme that fire is wet as a strawman so i can then announce my genius and "Prove" that fire is in fact NOT wet, and i was right all along, so i must be right about all the other crap I shouted in between my rants on the lack of moisture in fire.
anarchy is DESTRUCTIVE of capital, and PREVENTS markets from operating. anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.
since those words seem to come exclusively from YOU, i can only assume this is some pathetic strawman you have been trying to build for months with your constant blather about "Anarcho-Capitalism" and other such fallacies and stupidity.
anarchy is not the only thing which is destructive of capital, and prevents markets from operating, so this does not imply that you are somehow an anarchist by inductive reasoning. oppression by dictators also destroys capital and prevents markets from operating, through the exact same forces as anarchy and the violence anarchy spawns.
you can feel free to hate capitalism, you can run off and join a commune or socialist collective, you can even cut your nuts off and ride comet Hale Bopp, i dont give a fuck, but when you attempt to incite violence and anarchy, or to destroy the markets which other people dont seem to object to, over your silly political misconceptions you become just another che guevarra wannabe.
and dont delude yourself or trot out your "Im not pushing anything" bullshit. you ARE pushing marxism, by deriding and defaming everything except utopian communism and your own personal imaginary socialist utopia. your every post, your every claim your every lie and distortion is designed to convince the dimwitted, stupid, disillusioned and moronicto run into the arms of the marxists or into your ridiculous oxymoronic fictional philosophy which pretends to be everything to everyone, by being NOTHING to anyone.
youre a tout for marxism, disguised behind a thin veil of propaganda and lies
i'm a tout for the values and traditions of the republic, our constitution, freedom and liberty, in the manner that those words ACTUALLY are defined, not in the Orwellian Newspeak you prefer.
abandonconflict
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I did not invent "anarchocapitalism".
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Looks like someone is already onto arachnocapitalism. cn
NLXSK1
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Nobody invented it, it makes no sense...
Capitalism cannot exist in an Anarchy. Do you understand what Anarchy is??
Dr Kynes
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nope, youre just the only fool still repeating murray "the fifth column" rothbard.
it is my personal belief that murray rothbard was a marxist revolutionary from birth, and his supposed support for capitalism was nothing buy thinly veiled attempts to cause the entire capitalist system to collapse through his urging that it be completely unrestrained by any rules or order.
his every word was poison to capitalism and democracy, his assertions were contrary to our constitution, since corporations are not empowered do do shit under out constitution.
he was in fact more dangerous to capitalism, the markets and our freedoms than stalin and mao ever were.
he was the reductio ad absurdum of marx's theories made manifest. he was the tyranny of the "invisible hand of the market" made flesh, and if his plans had been allowed to succeed, our entire system would have collapsed from his madness.
he was Caligula in a cardigan.
abandonconflict
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Spiders fucking love capitalism.
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
They're just up in arms because they invented the website, and yet we quasisimian parvenus figured out how to make money off it. That has got to bug them. cn
GOD HERE
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Clearly you don't. Anarchy and political anarchy are two different things. You can go look it up. There is such a thing as anarcho-capitalism unfortunately (right wing libertarian-ism). Anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-socialism, anarcho-this, anarcho-that..
NLXSK1
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Really? Let's look at the first definition of Anarchy from the previous page...
If there isnt government or law there isnt politics... If there isnt politics then your whole argument is proven false...
Either a society has rules or it doesnt. If it doesnt then it is Anarchy... The strongest take from the weakest and there are no laws nor force that can compel anything to happen otherwise.