The AltarNational Garden

[Sincerely420]

As far as the leaf discoloration, I haven't seen it bro.
Maybe just give them some AACTs over the next couple weeks.
What size do you brew them by? I can recommend a recipe!
When I OD'd on Molasses, I made an AACT of the soil to add more microbes to get things right.
I feel like I saved them for sure from a disaster but can't say for sure.
They def. didn't kick the bucket on me tho..I just lost lots of fan leaves..

But everything that they need is in the soil so it could be anything that your supplement the system with to push things on way or another.
Vegging plants like bacterially dominated soils becuause they're heavy in N, so using EWCs in your AACTs at this point will be a nice bonus for you.
Once you flip to flower you can start brewing them with compost and you soil mix to brew more fungi

And I gave up on getting godo pics of my girls where the lights are haha. I just take em out now..At least while I can and since I can haha.
But nice artwork man! Very impressive with the mainlining for the first time!

 

[AltarNation]

Hey man... sure, hit me up with a recipe... I make about 4 gal's at a time...

I like mainlining, fun stuff. haha.

 

[Sincerely420]

For 4gals:

1 cup EWCs
1 tablespoon Kelp Meal
1 tablespoon Neptunes Harvest
1 tablespoon Molasses.

Give that a run for about a week and see if you notice a difference.
It's lights so you can use it the next 3 outta 4 waterings if you like bro

This isn't for any specific nutrition value, more so to brew bennies in the AACT to add to the soil's rhizosphere.

I brew by the gallon so I just mutiplied everything I add by four pretty much, not exactly, but pretty much.
But I'm sure you'll be good!

Maybe try foliar feeding also while you can. I'm def. gonna experiment with that next time I'm vegging

 

[AltarNation]

Don't have neptune's harvest or molasses, I'll have to do some shoppin. Also worried I don't have enough bubbling power... i tried to just bubble some ewc and catalyst (EJ's molasses equivalent) but I didn't get any foam even after a day and a half so I wasn't sure if I was actually getting results. Maybe the recipe was just not complete enough. (It was something like 1/4 cup EWC and a teaspoon of catalyst per gal) But I was also worried it could be that I simply need more bubblin'... right now I only have one line going in... I got plenty of foam with the EJ, just not that tea attempt, so I dunno, maybe it was the recipe.

Just ordered some Neptune's Harvest via amazon... should have it in a couple days. Does it matter what kind of molasses?

 

[Sincerely420]

The "foam" means nothing bro. I hardly ever have it. It also could be a result of several different reactions between things that you added...
But nothing more than that.

What are you bubbling with? And you can get the molasses from your local grocery store, just make sure it "unsulphured"
You can make the tea without the neptunes harvest but I wouldn't do it without the molasses! The bennies that you wanna brew need something to eat!

And 1/4c EWCs per gallon, thats pretty much my stardard bro! Good deal on ordering the Neptunes Harvest! I use it even all grow long.
Everything I have I use all grow long, I just switch it up all the time to keep it interested ya know?! And I never go too heavy at once.

 

[AltarNation]

The "foam" means nothing bro. I hardly ever have it. It also could be a result of several different reactions between things that you added...
But nothing more than that.

What are you bubbling with? And you can get the molasses from your local grocery store, just make sure it "unsulphured"
You can make the tea without the neptunes harvest but I wouldn't do it without the molasses! The bennies that you wanna brew need something to eat!

And 1/4c EWCs per gallon, thats pretty much my stardard bro! Good deal on ordering the Neptunes Harvest! I use it even all grow long.
Everything I have I use all grow long, I just switch it up all the time to keep it interested ya know?! And I never go too heavy at once.

I am bubbling with this:

http://www.petco.com/product/119290/Petco-Air-Pump-for-Freshwater-And-Marine-Aquariums.aspx?CoreCat=MM_FishSupplies_AirPumpsAccessories

It's the first one with one output for 13 gal tank.

Glad ot hear I don't need to be getting foam to be getting good growth. Perhaps it worked then, lol.

How long do you bubble that recipe for?

 

[Sincerely420]

I bubble with a 10gal fish tank pump haha in gallon water jugs. You're good bro

 

[glockdoc]

Haha I'm on the east coast and have been further east than I've been out west bro! But I'm def. gonna visit Hawaii here in the next couple years if nothing else!
I would LOVE to live out there bro! Ain't no telling where I might be in 5 years haha. Might have a spot out there ya NEVER know!
#alwaysonthemove

haha same here! been too Nigeria twice but the furthest out west ive been was ohio from rhode island lol

 

[Sincerely420]

Lol Now we got a couple Damn GOOD reasons to head west lol. Washington & Colorado hence the new avi lol

 

[glockdoc]

haha funny shit... i dont know how people can just up and move..like super far no friends nor family. my brother just moved to cali (he dont smoke at all thou) and me and him are alike in many ways but idk how he could do it.

 

[Sincerely420]

It's that rolling stone "itis" bro. I've got it bad! My closest friends in this country see me as much as my closet friend in Europe lol.

Granted my best friend in the states from my hometown fights in the UFC and never smoked or drank a day in his life, and my best friend after him lives in Liverpool.
Ppl snitch on ppl doing what we're doing if something happens with them so you have to keep too yourself lol. But when you're good at keeping to yourself, it's easy to move around like that!

 

[PSUAGRO.]

I am bubbling with this:

http://www.petco.com/product/119290/Petco-Air-Pump-for-Freshwater-And-Marine-Aquariums.aspx?CoreCat=MM_FishSupplies_AirPumpsAccessories

It's the first one with one output for 13 gal tank.

Glad ot hear I don't need to be getting foam to be getting good growth. Perhaps it worked then, lol.

How long do you bubble that recipe for?

Way under powered.......for a five gallon bucket you want nothing under 18w ecoplus commercial 1 40l/m at minimum(gonna be noisy)......Bacterial brews are fed with UNSULFURED mollases and fungal brews are fed with POWDERED seaweed/kelp(liquid contains sulfur which doesn't play nice).....the more your feed the more oxygen you need, so keep that in mind or it will NOT brew properly and be completely ineffective===waste of $$$.....It should NOT smell rancid/foul/etc....rather you want a nice "earthy" scent.......if it's too much work and hassle look at Fish meal or Insect Frass(pricey) to provide you a " living soil" with just a top dress

Or on the real cheap http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203647416?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=jobes+fertilizer&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=203647416#.UVSYbBdJOAg water soluble/fast acting and just use it as a soil drench / makes 30+ gallons....contains powdered fishmeal/kelp/beni bacs.... damn good for the price IMO

 

[Sincerely420]

If that's the case bossman, just bounce back to brewing by the gallon until you can get a bigger pump!
I apologize for any misinfo in that regard!

But bro @Cannibication lol.

The Compost Tea Brewing Manual JUST in

 

[AltarNation]

Way under powered.......for a five gallon bucket you want nothing under 18w ecoplus commercial 1 40l/m at minimum(gonna be noisy)......Bacterial brews are fed with UNSULFURED mollases and fungal brews are fed with POWDERED seaweed/kelp(liquid contains sulfur which doesn't play nice).....the more your feed the more oxygen you need, so keep that in mind or it will NOT brew properly and be completely ineffective===waste of $$$.....It should NOT smell rancid/foul/etc....rather you want a nice "earthy" scent.......if it's too much work and hassle look at Fish meal or Insect Frass(pricey) to provide you a " living soil" with just a top dress

Or on the real cheap http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203647416?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=jobes+fertilizer&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=203647416#.UVSYbBdJOAg water soluble/fast acting and just use it as a soil drench / makes 30+ gallons....contains powdered fishmeal/kelp/beni bacs.... damn good for the price IMO

Hey Psuagro thanks for chiming in man... okay, I was worried bout power on that pump... I will look into the pump you mentioned. I was doing so good not spending any more money lately too, LOL. That's okay though.

Sincerely, with the way my plants are on schedule now to water all together I'd have a challenge getting them on a schedule that would let me do 1 gal a day, haha. need time to bubble in between but need 4 gal. every 2-3 days, so don't think that works anyway, haha. I'll just bite the bullet and get somethin bigger...

 

[AltarNation]

Alright I picked out a pump and an airstone, I THINK they have the same tube size, but not sure, heh. One of the comments said it comes with some hose so as long as the stone is the right size on the inlet that will work I guess.. still probably should get some tubing and a check valve too tho... can make a little shelf to keep it higher than the bucket though, long as it doesn't fall in, heh.

 

[AltarNation]

I started shifting light cycles... was gonna wait til 3" above the rings but I want to get things rolling before april gets too deep.

I'm changing it slowly this time, so there is one hour of black added right now. I was thinking I'll do it an hour a day for twelve days, but if they grow more than I'd like in the mean time I might end up speeding it up on an exponential curve. We'll see how much more they shoot up during the shift.

Here are the canopies as is right now... everything's pretty filled in except the C99 in the middle which hasn't quite stretched outside the ring all the way yet. But it will get plenty far before I'm at 12/12 no doubt:

 

[Sincerely420]

#Yessssss!
Coming right along! What you been doing as far as watering the past week?!
And I'd go ahead and hit them with some aloe or some coconut water while they're still in veg, just to coat the leaves a bit heading into flower! I'm having issues with dryer somewhat brittle leaves ATM. It's not really as issue as mush an imperfection, but yeah..
Could just be the fact that I got so much air moving in there tho... Just a heads up!

Also, no Supercropping?

 

[AltarNation]

#Yessssss!
Coming right along! What you been doing as far as watering the past week?!
And I'd go ahead and hit them with some aloe or some coconut water while they're still in veg, just to coat the leaves a bit heading into flower! I'm having issues with dryer somewhat brittle leaves ATM. It's not really as issue as mush an imperfection, but yeah..
Could just be the fact that I got so much air moving in there tho... Just a heads up!

Also, no Supercropping?

Actually I am getting some dry leaves on one raspberry cough too... humidity has been super low here so I am running the humidifer again to try to combat it... but I like your idea too... I think we have a big jug of something that's like "aloe water" or something... it's like, aloe, but straight liquid form... I'll have to look closer at what it is... but I'm thinkin it might be perfect...

Also: I supercropped a little here and there to even out some of the canopies and may have to do so again as things progress, we'll see... haha. But my goal is to go for fairly straight standing colas, so we'll see what I end up having to do to actually make that happen! It also really depends on how things go with trying to keep them all in there... it is a little tight and I am strongly considering setting up a tent just to run the C99's separate... in whcih case I would supercrop to fill the footprint on both if it seems feasible...

I got in there after that pic and trimmed up the canopies on all the C99's... took like 7 more clones... six of the obviously more sativa one and one of one of the other two, lol. I had left a lot more under-growth on that particular one so it was mostly that one that got trimmed up, but I did remove new growth heads from all the nodes below the ring on the others as well. Unless it was RIGHT below the ring, then I let it slide. Everything above the rings should get direct side lighting, (on one side anyway) so that's where i want my buds starting...

As for what I've been using to water this week, off the top of my head, I did a couple straight tap waterings, a lightish EJ grow mix, a mix with just big bloom... (basically ultra weak worm casting tea, heh)

I just got the pump, my stone, and my bottle of seaweed 'n fish deliciousness, lol. But I need a line to connect the stone, it's thicker than my old one. I am planning to see if there's any way I can rig up some of the line I use to water from my bucket...

 

[Sincerely420]

Everything sounds boss bro and I think you'll have to buy a fish tank thing to fit the pump!
Just got a hygrometer and my humidity popped up at 35%!
I thought damn sure I'd be close to 50 with all the open jugs of water that I have sitting around!

Also, make sure you dilute the hell outta the aloe!

 

[AltarNation]

LOL that fuckin' pump was so loud. I just returned it. I bought a different one... it's not as strong as the commercial one but still 6x what I had already. Perhaps I'll leave the one I already have in too, so it'll be about 7x what it was.