Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!
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We'd be lost with out em....But shhhhhh hahaShe also transforms into a handy bug sprayer.
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These ALL have anywhere from 2-4weeks left until harvest! They got 1w 18/6 then went to 12/12!
Bagseed
Delicious Seeds Critical Jack
& 3 Different Seedsman White Widow Ladies!
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#2
#3
All grown in this soil mix:
-1.5 cubic feet Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-38 cups Wiggle Worms Earthworm Casting (1-0-0) - Source better if possible but these get it done.
-10 cups Perlite(was already plenty in the soil)
-11 tsp Rooters Mycorrhizae
*Soil Base
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-1.5 cups Indonesian Hi-P Bat Guano (.5-13-.2)
-1.5 cups Algamin Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
-1.5 cups Espoma Tomato Tone (3-4-6)
*Nutritional Amendments
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-1.5 cups Azomite(used as a rock dust)
-0.5 cup Espoma Green Sand
-1.25 cups Hi-Cal Lime
*Mineral Amendments
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#WaterOnly. #AACTMagic. #NoBottles. #NoChemicals. #WHITEAshes.
Bagseed
Delicious Seeds Critical Jack
& 3 Different Seedsman White Widow Ladies!
All grown in this soil mix:
-1.5 cubic feet Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-38 cups Wiggle Worms Earthworm Casting (1-0-0) - Source better if possible but these get it done.
-10 cups Perlite(was already plenty in the soil)
-11 tsp Rooters Mycorrhizae
*Soil Base
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-1.5 cups Indonesian Hi-P Bat Guano (.5-13-.2)
-1.5 cups Algamin Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
-1.5 cups Espoma Tomato Tone (3-4-6)
*Nutritional Amendments
__________________________
-1.5 cups Azomite(used as a rock dust)
-0.5 cup Espoma Green Sand
-1.25 cups Hi-Cal Lime
*Mineral Amendments
__________________________
#WaterOnly. #AACTMagic. #NoBottles. #NoChemicals. #WHITEAshes.
I've been reading up on this all day/night. This is awesome for someone like me who is a newbie! Great information. Three weeks ago this would have been confusing but after much reading - it's starting to look more clear for me. Because of this thread- it really broke it down for me. I plan on switching to pure organic and nothing but water.
As far as your watering - what do you do?
Tap water? R/O Water? Do you ph it at all?
I see with your mix I can pretty much find everything off amazon but the hi-cal lime. Fedco seems to be one of few places that carry it.
As far as your watering - what do you do?
Tap water? R/O Water? Do you ph it at all?
I see with your mix I can pretty much find everything off amazon but the hi-cal lime. Fedco seems to be one of few places that carry it.
Sincerely420
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Nice C4! Glad I could make sense of some things for you lol. I'm still making sense of everything myself lol! But I'm getting there!
Everything that I've found relevant I've posted here tho, so everything you need to know how to grow organic should be here! If you miss anything, or can't find anything you're looking for, please let me know so I can add it bro!
But as far as the watering goes, I use tap water. I live near mountains and streams tho, so my guess is that the "city" water is pretty good out here.
Tap water is full of stuff that makes it safe for use to drink, but also things like chlorine and chloramines which give plants problems...
The chlorine dissolve from the water when you let it sit anywhere from 24-48 hours before using it.
I let my water sit for 2-3 days always as a norm.
The chloramines can take up to a week to dissolve if they are present but I haven't had a problem with them...Like Cholorine, it dissipates with time!
You can help rid them both of your water by bubbling it for a couple days(with a cheap fish tank pump) before you use it.
R/O is a WASTE OF MONEY unless you're using well water or water with an outta control ph, or your water is treated with chloromines and you can't get it to dissipate..
Between rain water and tap water, I'd rank it no. 3 in the order I'd use them.
If I had it my way I'd use only rain water. But can't collect it right now, so I'm using tap.
R/O has absolutely NOTHING benefical in it...Its pure water...
So lets say you should safely go with tap water if you can manage it! I've got a couple friends having prob with well water, so if you use well water you're gonna have to take measures to make that water less hard and to adjust the pH.
And speaking of pH, I don't pH at all.
I don't pH the tap water before I water my girls, and I don't pH the AACTs that I use on them!
I pH'd my soil when I broke the bag open just to see what it would be straight outta the bag and it was 6.5.
Afterwards, I amended the soil, and didn't pick up the pH meter again.
When you have a good living soil full of compost and earthworm castings you've won your pH battle.
These two things alone will keep you ph stable, so it's IMPORTANT to add enough of each, and get the best quality product of each that you can source.
And lastly, you can find everything on Amazon I'm sure bro, and if you can't find hi-cal lime, dolomite lime will do just fine.
The only difference between hi cal and dolomite lime are their cal/mag ratios. Both are good tho.
Good luck champ
Everything that I've found relevant I've posted here tho, so everything you need to know how to grow organic should be here! If you miss anything, or can't find anything you're looking for, please let me know so I can add it bro!
But as far as the watering goes, I use tap water. I live near mountains and streams tho, so my guess is that the "city" water is pretty good out here.
Tap water is full of stuff that makes it safe for use to drink, but also things like chlorine and chloramines which give plants problems...
The chlorine dissolve from the water when you let it sit anywhere from 24-48 hours before using it.
I let my water sit for 2-3 days always as a norm.
The chloramines can take up to a week to dissolve if they are present but I haven't had a problem with them...Like Cholorine, it dissipates with time!
You can help rid them both of your water by bubbling it for a couple days(with a cheap fish tank pump) before you use it.
R/O is a WASTE OF MONEY unless you're using well water or water with an outta control ph, or your water is treated with chloromines and you can't get it to dissipate..
Between rain water and tap water, I'd rank it no. 3 in the order I'd use them.
If I had it my way I'd use only rain water. But can't collect it right now, so I'm using tap.
R/O has absolutely NOTHING benefical in it...Its pure water...
So lets say you should safely go with tap water if you can manage it! I've got a couple friends having prob with well water, so if you use well water you're gonna have to take measures to make that water less hard and to adjust the pH.
And speaking of pH, I don't pH at all.
I don't pH the tap water before I water my girls, and I don't pH the AACTs that I use on them!
I pH'd my soil when I broke the bag open just to see what it would be straight outta the bag and it was 6.5.
Afterwards, I amended the soil, and didn't pick up the pH meter again.
When you have a good living soil full of compost and earthworm castings you've won your pH battle.
These two things alone will keep you ph stable, so it's IMPORTANT to add enough of each, and get the best quality product of each that you can source.
And lastly, you can find everything on Amazon I'm sure bro, and if you can't find hi-cal lime, dolomite lime will do just fine.
The only difference between hi cal and dolomite lime are their cal/mag ratios. Both are good tho.
Good luck champ
Sincerely420
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Mine says 13 boss, but theres no difference really between a 13 and a 12 in that regard!
Just looked around at Amazon and I saw some that said 12 too! But that's just a minor detail bro!
All that means is that if you buy a 2.2lb bag of Hi-P Bat Guano, either 12 or 13% of that is phosphorous by volume, or in a 100lbs of it, there will be 12-13lbs P.
The mycos that you add to the soil help free up that P! I figure we've got ample enough P in the soil between the Tomato tone and Bat Guano.
But grab the one with the highest P value! 12 or 13 will work tho.
It's also a few dollars cheaper in the grow stores than is is in Amazon, but def. worth it bro!
Just looked around at Amazon and I saw some that said 12 too! But that's just a minor detail bro!
All that means is that if you buy a 2.2lb bag of Hi-P Bat Guano, either 12 or 13% of that is phosphorous by volume, or in a 100lbs of it, there will be 12-13lbs P.
The mycos that you add to the soil help free up that P! I figure we've got ample enough P in the soil between the Tomato tone and Bat Guano.
But grab the one with the highest P value! 12 or 13 will work tho.
It's also a few dollars cheaper in the grow stores than is is in Amazon, but def. worth it bro!
Indeed. Can purchase everything but three things from my local store . At least my local "online" store says they sell it on their online store.. I'm only assuming they'll have it in stock! Hah.
Thanks man. Still learning. I figured it wasnt much of a difference - but wouldn't hurt to ask.
Thanks man. Still learning. I figured it wasnt much of a difference - but wouldn't hurt to ask.
imo you don't need all of that..other than dolamite lime..less is more..if you want yield it's all about roots and light, NOTHING you can put in your soil will equate to what a large, healthy root systemHi All,
Happy 11/7/12 to those of you in Washington St. and Colorado!
I'm somewhat of a newbie, but not totally as I've done my fair part of lurking on these forums without an account, and reading different books, and online articles..Mainly all the different forums..
Anyhow I decided to post here as I found it to be quite informative in comparison to a lot of the other forums..
So anyhow, just a brief hello to all of you, as well as a THANK YOU for any future and/or prior advice
So.....
I'm starting with a thread regarding Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil. I'd like to discuss/share the different way that you guys have used, or are using Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, with or without success.
And I'll be starting with my own recipe, which begins with Fox Farm Ocean Forest, but is slightly amended, and will be allowed to cycle or "cook/compost/whatever" for a month, prior to using it.
If you've used Fox Farm Ocean Forest, or are planning on using it, I welcome you to comment.
It's all love and wealth of knowledge here.
BUT! Enough of the intro.
I have mixed in a 5 gallon grow bag the following parts, of which we be the final home for my Feminized White Widow Seeds:
-4 gallons* Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil
-2 1/2 quarts* Chunky Perlite (soil already has a good bit of perlite in it)
-1 tablespoon* Hi-Cal lime (figured it would be a bit of a PH buffer in addition the FFOF Oyster Shells, but didn't want to go overboard)
-2 quarts* Earth Worm Castings (Provide bacteria and help supplement Nitrogen production for the plants)
-1/4cup* Espoma Tomato Tone 3-4-6 (mainly to provide a little extra N-P-K across the board)
-1/2cup* Algamin Kelp Meal 1-0-2 (mainly for trace elements)
-1/4cup*Espoma Greensand (mainly for water retention as I added extra perlite).
This^^soil mix I currently have sitting in a 5 gallon grow bag, but I've yet to moisten it, until I can add:
-1 quart Gia Green Glacial Rock Dust.
After adding the rock dust to the soil, I'll water it down, let it sit for a month and then consider it a job!
Given this soil mix of very slight amended Fox Farm Ocean Forest, what do you guy think!
Amazon tracking says my rock dust should be here tomorrow, so I'll mix it in then..but what do you guys think.
See anything I'm missing in this soil? Anything I need more of?
can yield..NOTHING..imo you are wasting your money as well as taking what professional's have done for you by purchasing their product..perlite in ff soil is plenty and then your ADDING more AND peat..i ran out one day went to home depot cause i didn't want to go all the way to hydro and bought canadian organic soil BIG mistake after 48 hours, i was MORE than happy to go back out to hydro..waiting outside before he opened! checkout my journal and you will see what i mean..lol everybody "doctors" and then they have to come back to forum crying about "whats wrong with this"?
Sincerely420
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Well thanks for the input! To each his own yo
Ps. I posted that post back in November and I haven't had to buy anything new since I've started which was back in October....
I'll probably have to re-up after my 4th or 5th harvest..And then I'll only be spending about $50 on amendments to use for the next 5 grows. So that $150 i invested initally will gave gotten me thru that many grows without going back to the hydro store.
As time passes, the less I spend...
There are a lot of books out there for you if your interested in why I'm doing what I'm doing yooo.
Or you can just cruise thru this organic section or the one @ grasscity.
But if not, to each his own like I said
Ps. I posted that post back in November and I haven't had to buy anything new since I've started which was back in October....
I'll probably have to re-up after my 4th or 5th harvest..And then I'll only be spending about $50 on amendments to use for the next 5 grows. So that $150 i invested initally will gave gotten me thru that many grows without going back to the hydro store.
As time passes, the less I spend...
There are a lot of books out there for you if your interested in why I'm doing what I'm doing yooo.
Or you can just cruise thru this organic section or the one @ grasscity.
But if not, to each his own like I said
do i detect.. patronization?..almost like a "ha ha ha little lady, you just go on over there and sit down.. while WE men folk talk grow"Well thanks for the input! To each his own yo
Ps. I posted that post back in November and I haven't had to buy anything new since I've started which was back in October....
I'll probably have to re-up after my 4th or 5th harvest..And then I'll only be spending about $50 on amendments to use for the next 5 grows. So that $150 i invested initally will gave gotten me thru that many grows without going back to the hydro store.
As time passes, the less I spend...
There are a lot of books out there for you if your interested in why I'm doing what I'm doing yooo.
Or you can just cruise thru this organic section or the one @ grasscity.
But if not, to each his own like I said
i'll be journaling my recycling can grow in a day or so with pics..stop by and check it out!
Sincerely420
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You can't read into my text lol. You should detect what you read lol.
No belittlement..No loyalty to Fox Farms. Just doing my own thing and FFOF just happens to be a part of it.
And rather than trying a bunch of different soils out, I found one that worked and decided to work with it.
Do you bro. Success.
Besides lol VOID ALL YOUR RESPONSES and keep it moving lol. I HAVE NOT invested $150 in a carbon scrubber/fan for my setup!!! #YESSSS!
#LaterYO
No belittlement..No loyalty to Fox Farms. Just doing my own thing and FFOF just happens to be a part of it.
And rather than trying a bunch of different soils out, I found one that worked and decided to work with it.
Do you bro. Success.
Besides lol VOID ALL YOUR RESPONSES and keep it moving lol. I HAVE NOT invested $150 in a carbon scrubber/fan for my setup!!! #YESSSS!
#LaterYO
SOMEBEECH
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SAY What You ever think you might be able to improve the root system by ammending........I call bullshit.I agree FF is good out of the bag,but to say nothing you put in the soil will help the root system is ubber nonsense.
Beech
nothing you put in your soil can "equate" to the same thing as intense lights and root development..
Sincerely420
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Why are you even in the Organics area if that's the way you feel?
what difference does it make to you the specific forum i post in and why?..all i'm saying is you boys love to play and stick your fingers in, instead listening to the plant..kind of like what you do to women..kiss..keep it simple stupid!
Sincerely420
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You posted here just to say everything that I've done is irrelevant.
Ok....I get your point...and don't have a problem with it..
But you know all your responses are voided right?! You shouldn't be here lol.
im not qualified according to your sig haha. You just keep posting these void posts haha
Cool out man! I'm trying to work over here lol.
There are a few more threads like this one! If u really wanna be the bad guy, maybe you should copy and paste your OP to the other 7 organic soil threads on this same page! You might get the reaction you're looking for from on one of those threads!
Or maybe you'll get ignored..or blocked...prob flamed then ignored...or a combination of both by several ppl lol.
whatever floats ur boat. I'm done replying to you tho..good luck guy
Ok....I get your point...and don't have a problem with it..
But you know all your responses are voided right?! You shouldn't be here lol.
im not qualified according to your sig haha. You just keep posting these void posts haha
Cool out man! I'm trying to work over here lol.
There are a few more threads like this one! If u really wanna be the bad guy, maybe you should copy and paste your OP to the other 7 organic soil threads on this same page! You might get the reaction you're looking for from on one of those threads!
Or maybe you'll get ignored..or blocked...prob flamed then ignored...or a combination of both by several ppl lol.
whatever floats ur boat. I'm done replying to you tho..good luck guy
case in point^^^^^^