Perhaps I am not being clear. Patient c is served by caregiver b who in turn is a patient of caregiver a. A can transfer to b for b's medical use. A is assisting b with b's medical use. Same when b transfers medicine to c. IF however, a transfers meds to b who transfers those same meds to c, a is not assisting with b's medical use, they are assisting with c's use.caregivers not patients
Unless the caregiver is supplying 5 caregivers who in turn supply another 5 patients each....or any other myriad of legal ways to trickle it down but you don't know about this you're a pot doctor who doesn't know much about pot.In case you forgot, the post that seemed to start all this was my comment that it is probably best to look at being a caregiver as a self financing hobby, to look at it as an income producing job could lead to problems.
To explain that, if the caregiver wants to earn 30k a year, if they follow the rules and have 5 paying patients, they must make $2500 a month ($500 a patient per month) above their expenses to make than 30K a year. The only what that will happen is if the 5 patients require a very large amount each month (10 oz at $50 per ounce over cost). Otherwise they must have more than 5 patients, which currently is not allowed, or they must sell outside of the patient/caregiver system. The former is not very common (and very expensive for the patient) and the latter two will put the caregiver at risk for distributing outside of the act.
Thanks for getting us back on topic Homeless
Dr. Bob
not too worry about me.Do what you wish, but know that it will at best be a rather expensive test case.
Dr. Bob
neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.That is the problem, a daisy chain or 'caregiver circle' isn't direct assistance with medical use. It isn't within the act.
If you want to discuss, leave the personal attack issues out.
Dr. Bob
Sorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.
nope I am what I am... and my momma taught me not to care what called us or thought of us..... your strawman argument was that it was not 'in the act' neither are you,sirSorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?
Dr. Bob
Sorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?
Dr. Bob
neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.
THIS ENTIRE BOARD IS INFESTED WITH CRY BABY KNOW IT ALLS, I WISH I COULD FIND THESE PEOPLE AND KICK THEIR ASSES.
YOU CAN TELL YOU ARE ALL YOUNG CUZ US OLDER FOLK PARTY AND CHILL OUT, BUT YOU LITTLE SHITS FIGHT AND ARGUE
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BUT DONT WORRY, I JUST GIGGED THIS BOARD FOR HAVING PEOPLE AND POST RECCOMENDING MEDICINE FOR CERTAIN AILMENTS AND THATS PRACTICING MEDICINE WITHOUT A LICENSE.
THIS BORARD IS MINE AFTER I FOLLOW THEIR ADVICE AND HAVE MY SEIZURE AND SUE.
THE POSTER, THE OWNER OF THIS BOARD AND THE MORDERATORS WHO EXCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY TO POLICE THESE POST
YOU ARE ALL LIABLE.
The unauthorized practice of medicine occurs when someone gives medical advice or treatment without a professional license. The prohibition against the unauthorized practice of medicine is a precaution against people who would try to treat others without the proper training, or by using unproven methods which could harm or even kill their supposed patients. As a result, all states make the unauthorized practice of medicine a criminal offense with potentially serious penalties. However, the practice of medicine itself is a slippery term which can be difficult to define.
What is the practice of medicine?
Since states are responsible for providing medical licenses, each state has a slightly different legal definition for the practice of medicine. In general, a person practices medicine when he or she tries to diagnose or cure an illness or injury, prescribes drugs, performs surgery, or claims he or she is a doctor.
Sometimes, activities that might be considered the unauthorized practice of medicine are legal even when performed by people without a medical license. For example,schools may administer prescription drugs to students who need them because a doctor has already prescribed the drugs, and it is generally considered safer than leaving the drugs in the students' hands.
On Medical Advice
The practice of medicine becomes trickier to define when you look at medical advice. There are a few guidelines, however, that can help define when "medical advice" is "the practice of medicine." In general, advice as the practice of medicine has several of the following qualities:
- First, advice might be considered "the practice of medicine" when the persongiving it claims he or she is a doctor. This is because the title of "doctor" indicates that the person giving advice has gone through the rigorous process of medical school and succeeded in obtaining a medical license. So your friends cannot be considered to be practicing medicine when they tell you to take more vitamin C, since they never claim to be doctors.
- Second, advice may be the practice of medicine when the advice isspecific to a particular person's illness or injury. <---- GOT YA.
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There's mods here from non-legal states, for all you know they are crazy ass outlaws...
Dr Bob , when you came up with those figures of $50 per ounce above cost and what a caregiver could make per year you must have some idea of how much it costs to produce an ounce of MM , What do you think the cost is ? And any caregivers out there , what do you think the cost would be ?In case you forgot, the post that seemed to start all this was my comment that it is probably best to look at being a caregiver as a self financing hobby, to look at it as an income producing job could lead to problems.
To explain that, if the caregiver wants to earn 30k a year, if they follow the rules and have 5 paying patients, they must make $2500 a month ($500 a patient per month) above their expenses to make than 30K a year. The only what that will happen is if the 5 patients require a very large amount each month (10 oz at $50 per ounce over cost). Otherwise they must have more than 5 patients, which currently is not allowed, or they must sell outside of the patient/caregiver system. The former is not very common (and very expensive for the patient) and the latter two will put the caregiver at risk for distributing outside of the act.
Thanks for getting us back on topic Homeless
Dr. Bob
This answer has too many variables undefined - would the caregiver be running CO? If so, would it be from tanks or another method? Light cycles vs time of day would factor into the price, as would nute types / amounts (pre-mix vs homebrew).. as just the start of the variables.Dr Bob , when you came up with those figures of $50 per ounce above cost and what a caregiver could make per year you must have some idea of how much it costs to produce an ounce of MM , What do you think the cost is ? And any caregivers out there , what do you think the cost would be ?
Okay so let us include the variables start with the allowed 12 plants and a time factor of 3 months , every caregiver out there should already know the cost . Question is , What is the cost to produce one ounce ?This answer has too many variables undefined - would the caregiver be running CO? If so, would it be from tanks or another method? Light cycles vs time of day would factor into the price, as would nute types / amounts (pre-mix vs homebrew).. as just the start of the variables.