Making a living as a caregiver

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
'Fair' is relative, but I'll attempt to word this one the best I can. What is asked for in the form of a donation means nothing if you're doing it purely for financial gain, as such.. if someone was on SSI/SSD, and/or they were barely making it financially and it was needed for their pain.. I would just ask that they donate what they felt they could without making their situation worse. That to me, goes much further in terms of helping, care, and compassion than anything else. If someone said they couldn't afford what X rate would be, and they're driving around in a new truck with a 350-500 dollar cellphone.. they'd get no break in that department.
I agree with that , I believe a caregiver should make a lot of money , its almost like the people in charge of making the rules are setting things up to fail , the American way is based on fair profit , without a fair profit everything would stop . Fair and Free are to words that get misused a lot , when someone tells me I'm being treated Fair I mostly get screwed and I have found that I can not afford the free stuff . By the way have you been following Gray Wolf’s synthetic seed experiments ? That’s interesting !
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
I'm still not sure what I'm learning by having a bunch of impoverished caregivers thowing really rough approximations of their costs at a dartboard... some ppl must attempt seeing in black and white and others accept that grey is the only truthful hardline fact. Really... What exactly is this cost/oz quest all about anyway?? Can You deep deep Yourself an lay all your business back out into this open forum, rather than phishing into other ppl's random answers? Whatever, but I don't get where you're going... or WHY you are pushing for an exact number. Can you answer Why?Sidenote: Yes, I think Stumpjumper is a likable guy and a good moderator from the time I've been around here. However, to give Dr. Bob all the credit for his departure appears to be somewhat misguided. Maybe in time we can detetime what to blame on Bob, but loosing Stumpjumper precisely because of him is kinda reaching. We are all reponsible for our own decisions. Anyways Stump will be back under another name if not already. Don't you know, nobody can stay away... RIU puts eyeball drugs in the screen pixels here, for real.
 

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
Well i for 1 is on s.s.d. and if i had to spend $1400. a month for my meds. shit i would have shit left over imo
:bigjoint:
Maybe your old like me , I've got S S but that gets sucked up in a heart beat , I'm still working on the same thing , I want the oil for health reasons but can't make it work if I can't find a way to make money to do it , Dr Bobs idea that you could make money and have MM both sounds good , I could handle growing extra plants but the figures don't seem to work unless a person could find patients with deep pockets .
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
I agree with that , I believe a caregiver should make a lot of money , its almost like the people in charge of making the rules are setting things up to fail , the American way is based on fair profit , without a fair profit everything would stop . Fair and Free are to words that get misused a lot , when someone tells me I'm being treated Fair I mostly get screwed and I have found that I can not afford the free stuff . By the way have you been following Gray Wolf’s synthetic seed experiments ? That’s interesting !
It is being set up to fail, and yes.. Free and fair are both quite mis-used, is why I opened with 'Fair' is relative - I share the same views on that one. Haven't checked out the experiments yet, but will in the near future here.
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
It's true, most ppl will agree, you can't make a living off your 5 patients. That is nearly a fact.Until the system changes, what are we supposed to do? I work two part time jobs, in addition, hoping that it all adds up at the end of each month. I sure as heck don't check in w the state for to see what my next move is though.. I can also learn, read and write in grey.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
Might as well note that I feel for the Patients who sign up under a new caregiver that is just starting , they will have to wait for 90 days minimal to even sample a caregivers meds under this guise of an act due to the recent rulings and opinions held by opposition and often our own side :( and even after 90s days they may have to wait another 90 while hoping and praying for production and medicine , its just not that simple and then there are the scams and the risks there too . Not everyone can be a real caregiver and offer a uninterrupted supply up front .. Hence the demand for skilled caregivers and patients becoming caregivers ..

So in the end its really a bullshit game for most patients that choose a caregiver as often they are putting faith into someone else who has no more knowledge or skill than they .. Hence the Caregivers working together as it has been since the birth of the mi compassion clubs ..

Who the hell really expects patients to be subjected to all the nonsense that stems around the arena now , yes arena as its really nothing but a political rink rank side show at this point and time ..

If this shit continues I ll pack my bags and head out to Oregon , I am sure Skunkpharm wont tell me what I can and cant do in order to help patients .. Greywolf I am about to pack brother and head on out with my inheritance money and genetics !
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
That is the problem, a daisy chain or 'caregiver circle' isn't direct assistance with medical use. It isn't within the act.

If you want to discuss, leave the personal attack issues out.

Dr. Bob
from the lare site
Medical use[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]" means the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, internal possession, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marihuana or paraphernalia relating to the administration of marihuana to treat or alleviate a registered qualifying patient’s debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition. [/FONT][/FONT]
 

Dr. Bob

Well-Known Member
from the lare site
Medical use[FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]" means the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, internal possession, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marihuana or paraphernalia relating to the administration of marihuana to treat or alleviate a registered qualifying patient’s debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition. [/FONT][/FONT]
Yes, the qualified patient is the one you are directly associated with in the registry. That's what qualifies them. It isn't THEIR patient (ie the patient of your patient). This was pretty much settled with McQueen. That is the flaw in the 'daisy chain' systems. You should also note that the section you took that from is about the caregiver/patient relationship. That is the 'a' patient they are talking about. If you could transfer to any 'a' patient (even for free) the SC would have let Green stand. They did not.

Dr. Bob
 

bloodytrichomes

New Member
from the lare site
Medical use" means the acquisition, possession, cultivation, manufacture, use, internal possession, delivery, transfer, or transportation of marihuana or paraphernalia relating to the administration of marihuana to treat or alleviate a registered qualifying patient’s debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition.
great post homeless the truth is in black and white
 

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
I'm still not sure what I'm learning by having a bunch of impoverished caregivers thowing really rough approximations of their costs at a dartboard... some ppl must attempt seeing in black and white and others accept that grey is the only truthful hardline fact. Really... What exactly is this cost/oz quest all about anyway?? Can You deep deep Yourself an lay all your business back out into this open forum, rather than phishing into other ppl's random answers? Whatever, but I don't get where you're going... or WHY you are pushing for an exact number. Can you answer Why?Sidenote: Yes, I think Stumpjumper is a likable guy and a good moderator from the time I've been around here. However, to give Dr. Bob all the credit for his departure appears to be somewhat misguided. Maybe in time we can detetime what to blame on Bob, but loosing Stumpjumper precisely because of him is kinda reaching. We are all reponsible for our own decisions. Anyways Stump will be back under another name if not already. Don't you know, nobody can stay away... RIU puts eyeball drugs in the screen pixels here, for real.
If you guys in MI think you have it bad with your current MM situation take a few minutes to watch this tape and read this short story !
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/raid-of-the-day-florida-c_n_2765920.html
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
if we worry about other states we wont take care of our own.grow sell and make money power to the plants
I understand that is your opinion, but I have to disagree with the way it's worded. Cannabis growers, and those who are growing for themselves, or others in a medicinal fashion are a -UNIFIED- group in terms of end-goal. I give as much of a damn about legislation in other states as I do my own. Look at how many people who are older who could, or do benefit from cannabis take vacations, or spend summers in a state that isn't friendly to medicinal cannabis. Would they then medicate illegally, and hope they don't get caught, or do you think it'd be better if the other states also allowed it for "room to move about the cabin"? You can disagree if you wish, but at the point states start losing ground, we'd be right back where we were before medicinal cannabis was allowed at all and that's simply not acceptable given the many uses that cannabis has. I am Figong, pro-cannabis, pro-medicinal states, and I, for one, stand behind other states and users who need it to improve their quality of life in a medicinal fashion. That is all.
 

joe cain

Member
mabe so but members of this forum cant ban together to get rid of one bad apple.how can u think they can be unified with other states.little lone unified in our own state .look at all the profiteers and sellouts just in michigan
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
doctor bob, were you at the meeting in jackson at the polish lodge a little while back with matt able? Guy in your avitar looks like a guy who talked to me for a minute....just long enough for me to hate him and his viewpoint. sounded a lot like you're point of view as well. guy was a total dick LOL
 
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