indoor vs outdoor

adower

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I've noticed at all dispensaries that they dont separate by indoor and outdoor anymore. Is outdoor becoming that good that there is no difference? If so this could be the end for indoor growers? What do y'all think?
 

Dan Kone

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I've noticed at all dispensaries that they dont separate by indoor and outdoor anymore. Is outdoor becoming that good that there is no difference? If so this could be the end for indoor growers? What do y'all think?
Well last season was an unusually high quality outdoor season, so there is that. But this is just dispensary owners finding a way to make even more money. If the customers accept it, they'll keep doing it. It's as simple as that.
 

BustinScales510

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You mean like its not labeled as outdoor? The clubs around the bay area that Ive been to lately have had more outdoor this year than before,but its still labeled (the fancy term is "sun grown" :) ). I think some of the outdoor growers up north have definitely upped the level of quality,the outdoor stuff at the clubs is trimmed way better than usual and the buds look like they separated best ones. I doubt it is enough to supplant the indoor growing industry though,outdoor has a certain look and taste some people dont like.
 

Dan Kone

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You mean like its not labeled as outdoor? The clubs around the bay area that Ive been to lately have had more outdoor this year than before,but its still labeled (the fancy term is "sun grown" :) ). I think some of the outdoor growers up north have definitely upped the level of quality,the outdoor stuff at the clubs is trimmed way better than usual and the buds look like they separated best ones. I doubt it is enough to supplant the indoor growing industry though,outdoor has a certain look and taste some people dont like.
It's not that they are trimmed better, it's that last year was the best outdoor season I can ever remember. The weather stayed hot with low humidity right up until harvest time. Usually outdoor growers harvest early due to mold risks, last year they let their plants run until they were actually finished. That's the difference.
 

adower

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You mean like its not labeled as outdoor? The clubs around the bay area that Ive been to lately have had more outdoor this year than before,but its still labeled (the fancy term is "sun grown" :) ). I think some of the outdoor growers up north have definitely upped the level of quality,the outdoor stuff at the clubs is trimmed way better than usual and the buds look like they separated best ones. I doubt it is enough to supplant the indoor growing industry though,outdoor has a certain look and taste some people dont like.

When I went to HHO they just had it labeled; indica, sativa, hybrid. Didnt say whether it was indoor or outdoor.
 

adower

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Well last season was an unusually high quality outdoor season, so there is that. But this is just dispensary owners finding a way to make even more money. If the customers accept it, they'll keep doing it. It's as simple as that.
Right I figured that. I mean they can charge a flat rate whether they bought it from outdoor growers or indoor and make more profit.
 

Dan Kone

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tbh I don't care if dispensaries don't label indoor/outdoor.

If the bud is good enough to pass for indoor, who cares?
 

BustinScales510

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It's not that they are trimmed better, it's that last year was the best outdoor season I can ever remember. The weather stayed hot with low humidity right up until harvest time. Usually outdoor growers harvest early due to mold risks, last year they let their plants run until they were actually finished. That's the difference.
That might be, but Im almost positive that the outdoor that Ive seen at clubs lately is trimmed tighter than it was several years ago. I didnt take pics or anything of outdoor I bought at clubs in 2009 :), but I just remember it being more leafy.
 

Dan Kone

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That might be, but Im almost positive that the outdoor that Ive seen at clubs lately is trimmed tighter than it was several years ago. I didnt take pics or anything of outdoor I bought at clubs in 2009 :), but I just remember it being more leafy.
When the calyxes are more swollen, it appears to be trimmed tighter, there was simply more leaf and smaller calyxes on the bud. That was due to letting the buds ripen longer.
 

BustinScales510

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When the calyxes are more swollen, it appears to be trimmed tighter, there was simply more leaf and smaller calyxes on the bud. That was due to letting the buds ripen longer.
Oh I see what you mean than,more bud equals less visible leaf..makes sense.
 

ReefBongwell

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Lotta outdoor people using those auto trimmers now too... you can almost always tell outdoor from indoor so it only really needs to be labeled for noobs anyway :) as said, if it's nice enough outdoor to pass for indoor, who gives a fuck?

And how could outdoor ever replace indoor? Indoor harvests year round. People don't want cannabis just at outdoor harvest times.

There's always going to be people willing to pay for indoor quality too, and even though a lot of outdoor has gotten better, I don't see it becoming up to indoor quality as a general rule anytime soon.
 

BarnBuster

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I don't mind planting outside now that I'm using feminized seeds. Did indoor long ago for 15 years when it was in it's infancy. Now with just a few plants outside, I have jars of the stuff and none of the monitoring or risk that goes with indoor, But, I've always been lucky outdoors.
 

Dan Kone

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Lotta outdoor people using those auto trimmers now too... you can almost always tell outdoor from indoor so it only really needs to be labeled for noobs anyway :) as said, if it's nice enough outdoor to pass for indoor, who gives a fuck?

And how could outdoor ever replace indoor? Indoor harvests year round. People don't want cannabis just at outdoor harvest times.

There's always going to be people willing to pay for indoor quality too, and even though a lot of outdoor has gotten better, I don't see it becoming up to indoor quality as a general rule anytime soon.
The OD growers hit the weather jackpot last year. Good for them, they deserve it. But it's not like that every year. One rain storm the first week of September and they are eating top ramen all year.

OD is a delicate process and it's different every year. The year before the OD crop was totally fucked. It can't replace indoor unless you figure out how to control the weather or invest in really really nice climate controlled greenhouses.
 

mwooten102

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The OD growers hit the weather jackpot last year. Good for them, they deserve it. But it's not like that every year. One rain storm the first week of September and they are eating top ramen all year.

OD is a delicate process and it's different every year. The year before the OD crop was totally fucked. It can't replace indoor unless you figure out how to control the weather or invest in really really nice climate controlled greenhouses.
Like with anything else you get what you put into it. It's work plain an simple. If its gonna rain then its time to break out the easy ups and start tarping. the biggest problem with outdoor is that the vast majority of people harvest wayyy to early and then do a piss poor job drying / trimming and curing and honestly at 1k a pound in sept why should they even bother doing better ? Now me on the other hand I do everything I have to in order to get a proper bud and then I'll jar cure for 2 months or so and by feb or so the markets back up and I'm sitting pretty.
 

Dan Kone

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Last years grow was good but I think the year before was just as good.
For most people the year before was terrible. There was a big storm that hit NorCal in September that molded out a lot of crops. And even before that there was only 4 days of sun the entire month of August. It was a disaster.
 
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