Hawaii Growers

SpliffAndMyLady

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My plants got real dark like that when I was only using a blue spectrum to veg with, i.e 6500k. They fine healthy to me though, no worries... :-) Your new growth looks good, just your old growth from when they were inside is dark colored...
 

Sheckster

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Chem-Dawg was a bag seed yah?...that plant alone has changed cannabis cultivation significantly. That said growing bag seed isn't necessarily the end of the world.
I'm gonna play Devil's advocate..
Let's look at "growing Marijuana in Hawaii," starting with the 1850's, which is when workers from a variety of countries were brought in to work the Cane fields. These workers supposedly brought the first Marijuana to Hawaii. These workers did not actively seek out the best genetics to bring here, they grew seeds out of their stash... Bag Seed...
Fast forward to the 1960's and 1970's...
Again most of the genetics that was arriving here was bag seed....
While there certainly may have been proactive growers who were actively seeking out top notch strains by making pilgrimages to Columbia or Oaxaca, those folks were a minority..
In most cases somebody scored some killer weed in California, or Amsterdam, or Afghanistan and they saved the seeds from the bag...

On a side note... Here is an academic text coming out in the next couple months that some may be interested in..
One of the co-authors is UH Botany professor Dr. Mark Merlin and the guy is a wealth of knowledge not only on Marijuana, but also an expert on the local plants and herbs of the pacific islands..

Clarke, R.C. and M.Merlin. June 2013. In Press. Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany, Berkeley, Los Angeles, London: University of California Press.
 

kaloconnection

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My plants got real dark like that when I was only using a blue spectrum to veg with, i.e 6500k. They fine healthy to me though, no worries... :-) Your new growth looks good, just your old growth from when they were inside is dark colored...
Thanks, do you recommend using a mixed spectrum to veg? I'll probably have to get some new t5 bulbs soon and I was thinking of doing 4 blue/4 red mix
 

808killahz

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Thanks, do you recommend using a mixed spectrum to veg? I'll probably have to get some new t5 bulbs soon and I was thinking of doing 4 blue/4 red mix
If your running an 8 bulb t5 setup I would recommend 6 blue and 2 red spectrum bulbs for vegging. If your flowering under that set up I would run 6 red and 2 blues. However if you are vegging and flowering and don't want to buy all those bulbs then a 50/50 split is OK.
 

SpliffAndMyLady

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Thanks, do you recommend using a mixed spectrum to veg? I'll probably have to get some new t5 bulbs soon and I was thinking of doing 4 blue/4 red mix
Let me remind you, I am new to indoor. I usually use this great sun and 12/12 photoperiod we are blessed with but I have been using the T5's for veg for several years now. Take my advice with a grain of salt, but I would go 6:2 blue:red for seedlings/clones but for bigger mature in veg plants 4:4 would be good. I get better growth with a mixed spectrum, and healthier looking plants overall.
 

808killahz

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Another option is a full spectrum bulb. 5000k. This is what i currenty use for vegging. They work great for vegging. And OK for flower.
 

Cooter@666

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I'm gonna play Devil's advocate..
Let's look at "growing Marijuana in Hawaii," starting with the 1850's, which is when workers from a variety of countries were brought in to work the Cane fields. These workers supposedly brought the first Marijuana to Hawaii. These workers did not actively seek out the best genetics to bring here, they grew seeds out of their stash... Bag Seed...
Fast forward to the 1960's and 1970's...
Again most of the genetics that was arriving here was bag seed....
While there certainly may have been proactive growers who were actively seeking out top notch strains by making pilgrimages to Columbia or Oaxaca, those folks were a minority..
In most cases somebody scored some killer weed in California, or Amsterdam, or Afghanistan and they saved the seeds from the bag...

On a side note... Here is an academic text coming out in the next couple months that some may be interested in..
One of the co-authors is UH Botany professor Dr. Mark Merlin and the guy is a wealth of knowledge not only on Marijuana, but also an expert on the local plants and herbs of the pacific islands..

Clarke, R.C. and M.Merlin. June 2013. In Press. Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany, Berkeley, Los Angeles, London: University of California Press.
Thanks for the lead on the info, I'll put the book on the top of my "Must Have Books" list
 

808HI

Active Member
image.jpgimage.jpg"Bagseed". Only I Hawaii braddahs, only in Hawaii. Something about the mana in ocean, da air, and in da soil. Das why this place is so fruitful. Yup, genes are half of it, but like shecksters posts couple pages back, many have tried to match our grow environment in the mainland. We might not produce the biggest buds, but I ill put my money on it that as far as quality goes, we're up there. That's why tourist willing fo pay their ass for some quality homegrown. Not from me, but da guy chilling at walls in waiks. Even if its not homegrown, they think it is and their happy. Lets face it, Hawaii is one very special place. Alojahz.
 

808HI

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Yeah brah, all went root. I'm doing a comparison, two are gonna get brought outside daily, then moved indoors when sun goes down for another four hours then take em back out in the morning. And one I'm gonna keep under the lights for 18. The one big one u gave me I gonna do the same, outdoor during the day and back inside during the night.
 

Dyna Ryda

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I'm getting this main lining thing all figured out. No part of this plant went for waste, every piece that I cut was turned into a new plant.
 

Dyna Ryda

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This my blue Hawaiian cross with bubble berry, couple more weeks til she done.
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Got some clones catching sun rays. Tallest in the back is blue widow cross with bubble berry, from seed. She showed sex a few days ago then I cut her head off.
 

808HI

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Yo Braddah D.Ryda, I forgot to ask, what strain was the clones u hooked me up with? Looking good mah Braddah. Looks like u got mainlining down, cherry.
 

Dyna Ryda

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NICE ONE!! Hey wat size loop you stay using?
I used those 14" size and they were kinda big for 8 buds, might be mo bettah for da 16 tho...

aloha~

I have missed you guys, btw :)
That one is 12, got some 16 that I used last year. Trying to keep them a little smaller now.
 
Mahalo... Yes I am in Hawaii and the genetics are unknown. I am practicing with these, so when I buy good seeds, much of the learning curve is behind me....and might even get luck and the ganja God's will smile down upon me.
 

HapaHaole

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Howzit growing Hapa, wea da buds? lol :-)
Aloha!~
Coming soooon! Clones up (Mandala regs: PNR, Satori, & Hashberry="heat resistant", for real :) ), beans sprouted... trying a few fem seeds for da first time (holy grail kush & da kine pineapple express), normally I go for da "knock you on ur okole kine", so I am interested to see what PE will do.

Looks ono up in he'a!

:peace:

xoxo
 

HapaHaole

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That one is 12, got some 16 that I used last year. Trying to keep them a little smaller now.
Yea for indo it takes up too much room... It was my first time doing it too so I either have to cut 'em back one more time and make 16, which would fill the loop I think, or I found a way to just loop em in on each other (like tighten them around, you know?) and make that 14" a 10 or 12".

Urs turned out great. I just cut my clones back for da first time yesterday. Different then from seeds, tho
 
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