Can non pollinated female plants still produce seeds?
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Magical Broccoli
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You can still smoke hermies right? I understand the potency is compromised due to seed production but its still ok to smoke ? Probably worht less cashish which is whatever it cant be helped at this point.
Dr Kynes
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tying the tops down wouldnt do it, and a computer's glow is not likely to do it either.
heat stress, lack of water, cold stress, humidity, and nutrient stress are the usual suspects.
let me 'splain:
tying the tops of the plant down is NOT stressful to the plant, they dont mind it a bit.
you can tie them in many bizarre shapes and as long as you dont bend the limbs or stems to the point that they fold, crack split or break, it's all good. check out "LST Methods" and "Espallier" on the googles for some examples.
your computer on standby is also not what you would call "Light Stress", for that you need to turn on a strong ass light source, something brighter than you would find on a moonlit night. your computer didnt hurt nothing bro.
it's never easy to grow dope without a single nanner popping up, sometimes it's just gonna happen no matter how careful you are. if you have a plant go full on shemale then something went wrong sometime, and looking back it will be pretty apparent what it was. usually.
sometimes you get one thats just born that way.
Magical Broccoli
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Im upset that when they were in veg the sex signs didnt show above the 4th node as ive read. It wasnt until after the pre flowering phase that the 2 hairs showed at the V in the node or the balls formed. From now on those males are going right away without hesitation. I kept them in while waiting for any responses to confirm.(Being first sucessful grow I wanted to make absolutely sure I wasnt throwing away a female with false seed pods or something)
Dr Kynes
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yeah you can smoke hermies, we wont judge you.
but if you smoke Ron... yeah... that would be a little gay.
hermie dope is just seeded dope. youll lose a little potency, losing more the longer you wait before chopping, as resin nodules will be re-absorbed to support seed production, but it's not gonna be poisonous or make your dick go all rubbery or nothin.
Dr Kynes
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dont sweat it, half my second grow went Buck Angel on me (dont ask...)
and my first grow got eaten by goats.
Magical Broccoli
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goats? Haha what Thats a funny amazing story but its still sad What does buck angel mean? I know you said not to ask about the details I just want to know what buck angel means. Also, I figured out yesterday when you were in the other thread that nanner is a male plant. Is that correct? The book for ed rosenthal or jorge cervantes dont mention the word nanner
Magical Broccoli
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So bottom line. If the thc degrades in hermies to produce seeds when should I harvest? Tomorrow? I picked a few of the small "popcorn buds" just to get a idea of what to expect and yesterday .6 grams I smoked that was drying only for a day but I could tell it was fairly decent. Since I wasnt sure if it was placebo effect due to my excitement I had another try and they confirmed it was pretty good stuff and there was indeed a high. Again it was a very tiny amount but I wanted to make sure thc was present enough to warrent sale.
Dr Kynes
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"Nanner"
short for Bannana... the funny elongated pollen pod sometimes formed within your female flowers.
also, Buck Angel is a person.
if you googles that name youll wish you hadnt, or maybe youll enjoy it, im not judging.
Edit: Fuckit. This is Buck Angel:
Protip: "He" is not a dude. "He " is a "Reverse Trap" "He" actually has a vagina.
Magical Broccoli
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I seen the description doing a search. I dont want to see. So back ot harvesting. When should I since you said it will degrade I assume only certain pieces will that have hermie qualities. They should still have 3 weeks to go at minimum although I had them 10 on 14 off for awhile and that is supposed to reduce time by 2 weeks. Next time Im not gonna veg for as long as I did.
Dr Kynes
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first off,
it will not be salable until you dry it (at least a week for a decent slow dry)
then you must "cure it" (let it normalize it's remaining moisture, theres whole threads on the process here) for at least a week or two unless you want to sling lawn trimmings.
and then, if you sell it, you will wind up having to buy dope before your next harvest is ready.
growing for yourself is the best plan. it's hard to get busted if you arent selling the shit on the street (youll have no snitches, rats, stoolies or narcs in your orbit)
and if a freind in need wants to trade some of his excess green paper for some of your excess green flowers, well thats not even commerce really. that's practically charity since money wont get you high no matter how much you smoke.
you do NOT however want to become the neighborhood connection, because those are the chumps who get busted HARD and are described in the newspaper the next day as "Local Drugs Kingpin (your name here)" and youll wind up spending a long stretch in prison, where an evening with Buck Angel will start to sound kinda nice.
Dr Kynes
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the degradation will not be fast or particularly severe as long as you dont wait for the last minute.
every flower node that has been fertilized will basically stop making more resin, in order to make seeds. unfertilized calyxes will continue making resin, but youll be chopping before too long.
when to harvest is up to you, every plant matures at a different rate, and does so differently under different conditions. get a magnifying glass or a jewelers loupe or a nhand held microscope and examine your trichomes periodically, when they start turning amber then you have neared the peak of resin production, when about half of the trichomes are amber then you have hit the peak, after that the cannabinoid levels start dropping noticeably
as your dope is pretty well fertilized, you can expect resin production to have stopped already, so now it's just about letting the THC/CBD balance set itself. if you examine your trichomes and see them start deflating, then harvest now. if your trichomes are still plump but mostly clear, you can wait a little longer.
Magical Broccoli
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isa 15X magnifying glass strong enough or no?
ProdigalSun
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Not really. get at least 100x That will start showing up tiny resin glands. You can get toy microscopes for cheap. Some go 400x wich is awesome.
Dr Kynes
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if your eyes are good 15x will do. i use a 20x jewelers loupe
intenseneal
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From my last grow I have found 3 small under developed seed only in my New York Diesel. All plants where cloned from female mothers and no hermis at all. I let the NYD plants go a little long and I think that can cause a full on female plant to start to make seeds but they wont be viable. This is personal smoke so I would know if there where more seeds.
Dr Kynes
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seeds simply cannot occur without pollen.
again you could have walked some stray pollen in on your clothing, and if the pollen got into the calyx too late, so it had no chance to mature before you harvested the seeds would naturally be underdeveloped.
otherwise, you had the botanical version of the Immaculate Conception, and thats just silly.
