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[Lacy]

And another thing you mentioned was trailer trash like on jerry springer. I can't help but laugh at this statement because you act like this is an issue for only the poor and unethical people which is a HUGE judgment to make.

Abuse comes from all walks of life; rich or poor. It is only the very fact that the poor people are less educated and have less resources to resort to. The rich can more easily move on because money speaks volumes.

Another thing that you fail to mention or realize is that women did not have many resources back then. Now with new technology men and women have a lot more resources. There is the internet, self help books, group counselling that is focussed on these very issues, television with shows that help people.....something that was never heard of back in the days. The days when you said that if women were to just leave in the first place then there would not be a cycle like this. Well sure. Where would they go? Especially back then when the world was totally dominated by men.

I do not know your personal background and I don't mean any disrespect in saying this but you are a man with a different mentality than women have.
Of course most people are going to say well thats just bs and I would have just left like it is that easy. There is a lot more to this issue than meets the eye.
Women NOW do have more resources but there is a lot of shame in being the victim. There is a lot of mental issues that I am not sure you can comprehend, not because you are not an intelligent man but just that you are a man. There are a LOT less men who go through this kind of thing.

I also think there are men that can get trapped in this same situation. Just think how embarrassing and shameful that would be for him to seek help. Many of them just put up with the abuse just to escape the redicule of having ANYONE find out, let alone help them. I also think this would be psychological torcture.

I know I am getting into it deep but it struck a chord with me.

 

[IAMDGK]

theres nothin wrong with getting into it, its a serious problem in this world and personally i think instead of trying to START violence in another country with war the government should start trying to END the violence here first

And another thing you mentioned was trailer trash like on jerry springer. I can't help but laugh at this statement because you act like this is an issue for only the poor and unethical people which is a HUGE judgment to make.

Abuse comes from all walks of life; rich or poor. It is only the very fact that the poor people are less educated and have less resources to resort to. The rich can more easily move on because money speaks volumes.

Another thing that you fail to mention or realize is that women did not have many resources back then. Now with new technology men and women have a lot more resources. There is the internet, self help books, group counselling that is focussed on these very issues, television with shows that help people.....something that was never heard of back in the days. The days when you said that if women were to just leave in the first place then there would not be a cycle like this. Well sure. Where would they go? Especially back then when the world was totally dominated by men.

I do not know your personal background and I don't mean any disrespect in saying this but you are a man with a different mentality than women have.
Of course most people are going to say well thats just bs and I would have just left like it is that easy. There is a lot more to this issue than meets the eye.
Women NOW do have more resources but there is a lot of shame in being the victim. There is a lot of mental issues that I am not sure you can comprehend, not because you are not an intelligent man but just that you are a man. There are a LOT less men who go through this kind of thing.

I also think there are men that can get trapped in this same situation. Just think how embarrassing and shameful that would be for him to seek help. Many of them just put up with the abuse just to escape the redicule of having ANYONE find out, let alone help them. I also think this would be psychological torcture.

I know I am getting into it deep but it struck a chord with me.

 

[40acres]

Last time I played "captain save a ho", I got jumped on by three guys. Luckily i was drunk enough not to feel it and got back up with a brick.

Before I say this, let me say i have never beat up a significant other or any other chick. What happens if a female is playing grown up games, and needs an abject lesson? Male or female, should god not punish those that brought down his wrath?

 

[Lacy]

I think so also. It all starts at the home.

theres nothin wrong with getting into it, its a serious problem in this world and personally i think instead of trying to START violence in another country with war the government should start trying to END the violence here first

Last time I played "captain save a ho", I got jumped on by three guys. Luckily i was drunk enough not to feel it and got back up with a brick.OMG 40. I have done the same thing only I didn';t get beat up. Sorry but its kinda funny.

Before I say this, let me say i have never beat up a significant other or any other chick. What happens if a female is playing grown up games, and needs an abject lesson? Male or female, should god not punish those that brought down his wrath?

I'm sure the universe balances it all out in the end.

Another thing you mentioned srgpepper is that it would all end if the women would just walk away.
Well I could also narrow it down and say that it wouldn't happen if men wouldn't hit women in the first place. confused:
Its like saying we could have world peace if we all just got along.

 

[sgtpeppr]

Another thing you mentioned srgpepper is that it would all end if the women would just walk away.
Well I could also narrow it down and say that it wouldn't happen if men wouldn't hit women in the first place. confused:

Its like saying we could have world peace if we all just got along.

I know......what a revelation! And yes it is just that simple, nothing to be confused about, don't make it more difficult then it has to be.


You absolutely right this shouldn't happen in the first place....problem is you can't control what other people to....what you can control is your reaction to it. I certainly think the state of the world would be much better off if America just kept is big fat nose out of other countries. I'm pretty sure there would have been no terrorist retaliation if we didn't interfere with our military in the first place. But that is a whole different issue from what we are discussing here.

As far as the rich or poor thing, you are right again. The richer people certainly have more resources, but that still doesn't change the general energy of these situations...hence the Jerry Springer reference. None of my family live in trailers, but I know most of them have that south philly attitude, which is basically the same. But no resource is greater than free will, the ability to take control of your own life at any point....it certainly is more difficult at a younger age, but that is why we grow....to better ourselves and staying in an abusive situation is certainly not growing.

You also stated about people being embarrassed or shamed....that is just ego getting in the way. That implies you are worried about what others will think. So if someone is more worried about what others will think then their own well-being then I think they have their priorities out of order.

But by all means if you want to keep proving reasons for why people should continue to stay in these types of situations then go ahead....I think everyone has the capability to make there life better.

 

[Lacy]

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I know......what a revelation! And yes it is just that simple, nothing to be confused about, don't make it more difficult then it has to be.


You absolutely right this shouldn't happen in the first place....problem is you can't control what other people to....what you can control is your reaction to it. I certainly think the state of the world would be much better off if America just kept is big fat nose out of other countries. I'm pretty sure there would have been no terrorist retaliation if we didn't interfere with our military in the first place. But that is a whole different issue from what we are discussing here. Yes I agree but its a power thing with your country

As far as the rich or poor thing, you are right again. The richer people certainly have more resources, but that still doesn't change the general energy of these situations...hence the Jerry Springer reference. None of my family live in trailers, but I know most of them have that south philly attitude, which is basically the same. But no resource is greater than free will, the ability to take control of your own life at any point....it certainly is more difficult at a younger age, but that is why we grow....to better ourselves and staying in an abusive situation is certainly not growing.

You also stated about people being embarrassed or shamed....that is just ego getting in the way. That implies you are worried about what others will think. So if someone is more worried about what others will think then their own well-being then I think they have their priorities out of order.I'm not saying these are all ok excuses for people to stay with an abuser, I am elaborated that it isn't as cut and dry as everyone thinks.

But by all means if you want to keep proving reasons for why people should continue to stay in these types of situations then go ahead....I think everyone has the capability to make there life better.

Oh I am sorry if you got the impression that I feel these people should STAY in the relationship. I don't feel that way at all.
Like I said, if guys would just stop hitting women we wouldn't havr this problem.

Its not like a woman goes out a picks a guy and says "I'll just pick someone who treats me like shit because thats what I am used to."

Its something that is done at an unconscious level.

 

[sgtpeppr]

I know you don't want these people to stay in these relationships or situations and I know women don't pick these guys on purpose...although sometime you do wonder how they didn't see it coming.

I understand that what leads up to this may be on a unconscious level...in fact we all have some sort of story or situation that has lead to our present situation, good or bad (honestly, since it is in the past you cannot do anything about it and there is no point dwelling on it)....and the only thing that really matters is what will you do now!

 

[Lacy]

I think we are both on the same page here. You have simplified it too much and as usual I have elaborated and made it more complex but I think we both agree on this issue.

I know you don't want these people to stay in these relationships or situations and I know women don't pick these guys on purpose...although sometime you do wonder how they didn't see it coming.

I understand that what leads up to this may be on a unconscious level...in fact we all have some sort of story or situation that has lead to our present situation, good or bad (honestly, since it is in the past you cannot do anything about it and there is no point dwelling on it)....and the only thing that really matters is what will you do now!