#NRAlogic

[NoDrama]

so you think we all have a right to own a grenade launcher ???

Hey London, you know how you give people advice to shut up if they don't know what they are talking about?

Grenade launchers aren't illegal to own, I have one. They aren't considered a gun. Do a search on gun auction sites for M-203 grenade launcher, you can get them new for under $500. No FFL paperwork even needed.

 

[FootballFirst]

no supreme court ever would side with your interpretation of the second as giving you unlimited rights to own whatever arms and ammo you want.

first of all, forever is a long time.

secondly, the definition of my "interpretation of the second as giving you unlimited rights to own whatever arms and ammo you want," was widely accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court for many years after the writing of our constitution.

done and done.

 

[FootballFirst]

it also says freedom of speech may not be abridged, but freedom of speech is abridged.

doesn't make it right or just. it's consensus opinion.

 

[FootballFirst]

hey, buck, you know how long you could own any weapon and any ammo for?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blguntime.htm

 

[londonfog]

What right are you talking about? Your rights are not specifically enumerated you dummy. The 2nd amendment clearly says that the government may not ever enact a law that infringes on the citizen's right to bear arms, nothing in there that says we have the right o bear arms, it is assumed.

Dummies like you think that the constitution givers people their rights, that we actually get our rights from a piece of paper. How quaint that the children don't understand the truth.

please tell me when I even use the word Constitution. I merely stated that no ones right to bear arms are being violated. You can still bear arms. Are you off your meds again ???

 

[UncleBuck]

first of all, forever is a long time.

secondly, the definition of my "interpretation of the second as giving you unlimited rights to own whatever arms and ammo you want," was widely accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court for many years after the writing of our constitution.

done and done.

and then we moved past cannon balls and muskets.

welcome to reality, population: not you.

 

[NoDrama]

you don't need certain arms for self defense, however.

Why?

Have you ever given it any thought?

Why don't I need a AR-15 shooting a .22 caliber bullet with a 30 round magazine, but my Marlin Lever action is perfectly fine? Is it because the Marlin is more accurate, can fire empty in under 3 seconds and carries 23 rounds of .22 caliber bullets in the tube mag? Perhaps it is because the AR-15 magazine is black? Looks scary don't it?

Sorry sir, using a semi automatic rifle is way too effective, your gonna have to use this here blackpowder gun!

 

[ginwilly]

so you think we all have a right to own a grenade launcher ???

We can!!
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/11041572/guns-for-sale-curios-relics/curios-relics-rifles/law-he-66-rocket-launcher-m72a3

wanna buy a tank?
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1

how bout a cannon?
http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search/Category/988/Guns/Rifles/Cannons.htm


we got drones too

 

[UncleBuck]

doesn't make it right or just. it's consensus opinion.

it makes it absolutely right, there is no defense of screaming 'fire' in a crowded theater or "fighting words", neither of which are protected speech as they cause harm.

hence, the first may be abridged, and likewise the second may be infringed.

welcome to reality, population: not you.

 

[londonfog]

first of all, forever is a long time.

secondly, the definition of my "interpretation of the second as giving you unlimited rights to own whatever arms and ammo you want," was widely accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court for many years after the writing of our constitution.

done and done.

any linkage to that info

 

[FootballFirst]

isn't Chicago a lovely example for you guns control advocates? that city has enacted every piece of legislature that you pine for. it's such a swell example.

 

[UncleBuck]

any linkage to that info

he's referring back to the time when there was no such thing as semi automatic or fully automatic, or large capacity mags, or the like.

it's a vacuous argument, which is about his intellectual capability. all he can do is babble "my freedom!" and "second amendment" without understanding what those words even mean.

he seems dumber than a bag of nontheists.

 

[FootballFirst]

it makes it absolutely right,

that implies that consensus opinion is omnipotent.

don't you love those German of the mid 20th century who were wonderful gauges for consensus opinion being an absolute right?

 

[FootballFirst]

any linkage to that info

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blguntime.htm

 

[NoDrama]

please tell me when I even use the word Constitution. I merely stated that no ones right to bear arms are being violated. You can still bear arms. Are you off your meds again ???

Well if it is limited in some way then it must be written down somewhere for you to say it is limited.

GAWD damn some of you people just do not understand how DUMB you can be.

WHere does it say you DON'T have the right to own a grenade launcher? Go ahead dumb ass find that bit of info and present it so you don't look like the complete blithering make shit up fool that is painfully obvious for us all to see.

You said that we don't have the right to own a grenade launcher, where is that written down at?

 

[NoDrama]

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blguntime.htm

HAHA Yeah they aren't ramping up gun control attempts at all, NOT AT ALL!!

 

[NoDrama]

not one of your rights to have large mags..Do you have the right to own a grenade launcher too ???

Where does it say you have the right to breathe? How about the right to Dove soap? Where is your right to have pancakes on Saturday mornings at? No where does it say you have the right to wash your clothes in a washing machine, are you sure you have those rights?

You don't see how stupid your comments are do you?

 

[ginwilly]

any linkage to that info

I already linked the Dredd - Scott in this thread once where it was ruled we'd have to let the negro carry guns anywhere they wanted if we gave them full rights.

This decision points out how relying on our SCOTUS as a deity and always right and just is foolish. They were right in their interpretation of the 2nd because these men were alive when it was ratified, that was an easy one. The tricky part was in deciding blacks somehow weren't really part of All Men. They used the 2nd as a basis for why. Yay SCOTUS!

n an another portion of the dicta, the Court analyzed whether slaves were entitled to the protections of the Constitution by listing a few examples: "Nor can Congress deny to the people the right to keep and bear arms, nor the right to trial by jury, nor compel any one to be a witness against himself in a criminal proceeding." Unfortunately, Dred Scott, as property, did not possess any of these rights.

Got that: Property does not have rights.

http://lacithedog.blogspot.com/2009/10/using-dred-scott-as-precedent-in-second.html

 

[londonfog]

Hey London, you know how you give people advice to shut up if they don't know what they are talking about?

Grenade launchers aren't illegal to own, I have one. They aren't considered a gun. Do a search on gun auction sites for M-203 grenade launcher, you can get them new for under $500. No FFL paperwork even needed.

Guy we speaking of the items to be banned...and how much you pay for your tax stamp to own that. Got ammo ?? You a dealer ..What type permit/license you have??? Got a link to that 500 dollar no paperwork needed m203

 

[londonfog]

Where does it say you have the right to breathe? How about the right to Dove soap? Where is your right to have pancakes on Saturday mornings at? No where does it say you have the right to wash your clothes in a washing machine, are you sure you have those rights?

You don't see how stupid your comments are do you?

leave peoples right to wash clothes out of this....now you fucking with my money !!!