MellowFarmer
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Ghandi predicted the British would leave peacefully and they all laughed at him until they left peacefully.
Does anyone want to receive Spiritual Enlightenment?
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New Age United
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See that's exactly what I'm saying, I think you must have forgotten exactly what intuition really is. Of course intuition can be wrong, there are all sorts of counter-intuitives, you can not even find the Truth without running into atleast one paradox, but once you do find the Truth it absolutely must be completely intuitive, that is exactly how you confirm the Truth, that is how you "recollect" things, that is how your mind works. Now you recollect that don't you.
There would be no philosophy, no math, no science without it, it is literally the key to all intelligence, it truly is a marvel.
New Age United
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Ghandi was perhaps the most enlightened person of the last few centuries
NietzscheKeen
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I knew I liked you for some reason Beef, lol. Philosophy grad here as well.
We all had to start with Plato, so I guess it is new and earth shaking for some. New Age, I'd really suggest you read Philosophical Investigations by Wittgenstein, It's probably the most important book of the 20th Century. It will scramble your brains, but that just means you're actually reading it. Quine, Tarski, and Frege are good "contemporary" philosophers to read as well. Stay away from Searle though, I had him as a professor and he was a tool; very over-rated in my opinion.
Maybe I'm just absent minded, but I don't really recall intuition being a big topic in Republic.
We all had to start with Plato, so I guess it is new and earth shaking for some. New Age, I'd really suggest you read Philosophical Investigations by Wittgenstein, It's probably the most important book of the 20th Century. It will scramble your brains, but that just means you're actually reading it. Quine, Tarski, and Frege are good "contemporary" philosophers to read as well. Stay away from Searle though, I had him as a professor and he was a tool; very over-rated in my opinion.
Maybe I'm just absent minded, but I don't really recall intuition being a big topic in Republic.
Zaehet Strife
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Then how are you supposed to tell if your intuition is 100% certainly correct?... there is a flaw in every new ager's mind, it is that they could be wrong, but they don't want to think about that possibility so they ignore it and pretend it isn't there.
I think it wise to find humility in the face of the contemplation of reality... rather than spout your pride and ego telling everyone you have found the truth, the way and the light.
NietzscheKeen
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I don't even know what we are talking about. On which page is the truth of spiritual enlightenment?
420neverforget
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It's on page 10.
MellowFarmer
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Yes, he sure was! I try very hard to follow his ways but it is difficult!
tyler.durden
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^^ I hope that doesn't include his awful racism...
http://www.gandhism.net/southafricanblacks.php
Ghandi and Blacks
The Durban Post Office
One of Gandhi's major "achievements" in South Africa was to promote racial segregation by refusing to share a post office door with the black natives.
Sergeant Major Gandhi
Learn how Gandhi became a Sgt. Major in the British Army and eagerly participated in the 1906 British war against the black Zulus.
Gandhi and South African Blacks - http://www.gandhism.net/southafricanblacks.php
Gandhi wrote extensively about his experiences with the blacks of South Africa. He always termed them "Kaffirs" and his writings reveal a deep-seated disdain for these African natives.
Introduction
Gandhi is idolized by people of all political stripes around the world, and his life is popularly considered a model for the American Civil Rights Movement.
U.S. Senator Harry Reid called Gandhi “a giant in morality.” Former U.S president Ronald Reagan signed a bill creating a “National Day of Recognition for Mohandas K. Gandhi.” South African leader Nelson Mandela called Gandhi “the archetypal anticolonial revolutionary” whose “nonviolent resistance inspired anticolonial and antiracist movements.” African-American Senator Obama reportedly keeps a picture of Gandhi in his office.
Martin Luther King, Jr. associated Gandhi with the African-American struggle against inequality, segregation, and racism. Reverend King believed Gandhi was “inspired by the vision of humanity evolving toward...peace and harmony.” When the Indian government paid to place a statue of Gandhi at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Center in Atlanta, Mrs. King spoke about her husband's admiration for Gandhi, saying, “It is gratifying and appropriate that this statue is installed in this historic site.”
Unfortunately, these people were never acquainted with the real, historical Mohandas Gandhi, who was a virulent racist.
Gandhi was hired to work as an attorney for wealthy Indian traders in South Africa. He moved there in 1893 and soon helped establish the Natal Indian Congress. The goal of this Congress was to “promote concord and harmony among the Indians and Europeans residing in the colony [of South Africa].” Instead of concord and harmony with the blacks, however, Gandhi promoted racial segregation. The major achievement of the Congress was the successful attempt, spear-headed by Gandhi, to fix the Durban post office “problem.” This issue is discussed in-depth here.
In 1904, Gandhi founded The Indian Opinion, a newspaper which he used as a political tool to promote his personal views. It is in this paper, which Gandhi edited until 1914, that we find a record of his extensive anti-black activism and opinions. A list of anti-black quotes from his writings, in which he invariably refers to the South African natives as “Kaffirs,” can be found here. Gandhi's opinion of the native is best summarized when he calls them people “whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with and, then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.”
Finally, in 1906, Gandhi cheered on the British as they waged a war on the black Zulus. He then volunteered for military service himself, attaining the rank of Sgt. Major in the British Army and assisting the war on blacks in every way he could. You can learn more about this here.
One of the best-known heroes of the American Civil Rights Movement was Rosa Parks, the black lady who refused to sit at the back of the bus. While Gandhi is upheld as a champion of equality, the truth is that he probably would not even have allowed Mrs. Parks on the bus in the first place. He proudly said that among South African Indians, the “co-mingling of the coloured and white races...is practically unknown.” Gandhi also boasted, “If there is one thing, which the Indian cherishes, more than any other, it is the purity of type.”
People remember Rev. King for his most famous speech, in which he said: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” To associate Martin Luther King, Jr. with Mohandas Gandhi, whose dream was to clear the way for Apartheid in South Africa, is an insult to the memory of Rev. King.
http://www.gandhism.net/southafricanblacks.php
Ghandi and Blacks
The Durban Post Office
One of Gandhi's major "achievements" in South Africa was to promote racial segregation by refusing to share a post office door with the black natives.
Sergeant Major Gandhi
Learn how Gandhi became a Sgt. Major in the British Army and eagerly participated in the 1906 British war against the black Zulus.
Gandhi and South African Blacks - http://www.gandhism.net/southafricanblacks.php
Gandhi wrote extensively about his experiences with the blacks of South Africa. He always termed them "Kaffirs" and his writings reveal a deep-seated disdain for these African natives.
Introduction
Gandhi is idolized by people of all political stripes around the world, and his life is popularly considered a model for the American Civil Rights Movement.
U.S. Senator Harry Reid called Gandhi “a giant in morality.” Former U.S president Ronald Reagan signed a bill creating a “National Day of Recognition for Mohandas K. Gandhi.” South African leader Nelson Mandela called Gandhi “the archetypal anticolonial revolutionary” whose “nonviolent resistance inspired anticolonial and antiracist movements.” African-American Senator Obama reportedly keeps a picture of Gandhi in his office.
Martin Luther King, Jr. associated Gandhi with the African-American struggle against inequality, segregation, and racism. Reverend King believed Gandhi was “inspired by the vision of humanity evolving toward...peace and harmony.” When the Indian government paid to place a statue of Gandhi at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Center in Atlanta, Mrs. King spoke about her husband's admiration for Gandhi, saying, “It is gratifying and appropriate that this statue is installed in this historic site.”
Unfortunately, these people were never acquainted with the real, historical Mohandas Gandhi, who was a virulent racist.
Gandhi was hired to work as an attorney for wealthy Indian traders in South Africa. He moved there in 1893 and soon helped establish the Natal Indian Congress. The goal of this Congress was to “promote concord and harmony among the Indians and Europeans residing in the colony [of South Africa].” Instead of concord and harmony with the blacks, however, Gandhi promoted racial segregation. The major achievement of the Congress was the successful attempt, spear-headed by Gandhi, to fix the Durban post office “problem.” This issue is discussed in-depth here.
In 1904, Gandhi founded The Indian Opinion, a newspaper which he used as a political tool to promote his personal views. It is in this paper, which Gandhi edited until 1914, that we find a record of his extensive anti-black activism and opinions. A list of anti-black quotes from his writings, in which he invariably refers to the South African natives as “Kaffirs,” can be found here. Gandhi's opinion of the native is best summarized when he calls them people “whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with and, then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.”
Finally, in 1906, Gandhi cheered on the British as they waged a war on the black Zulus. He then volunteered for military service himself, attaining the rank of Sgt. Major in the British Army and assisting the war on blacks in every way he could. You can learn more about this here.
One of the best-known heroes of the American Civil Rights Movement was Rosa Parks, the black lady who refused to sit at the back of the bus. While Gandhi is upheld as a champion of equality, the truth is that he probably would not even have allowed Mrs. Parks on the bus in the first place. He proudly said that among South African Indians, the “co-mingling of the coloured and white races...is practically unknown.” Gandhi also boasted, “If there is one thing, which the Indian cherishes, more than any other, it is the purity of type.”
People remember Rev. King for his most famous speech, in which he said: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” To associate Martin Luther King, Jr. with Mohandas Gandhi, whose dream was to clear the way for Apartheid in South Africa, is an insult to the memory of Rev. King.
Beefbisquit
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No, I don't see; and I know exactly what intuition is, we specifically covered intuition and the metaphysical; the topics are anything but intuitive. What makes you, you? Is time travel possible, what would be the ramifications if it's possible? Can two things share all the same properties and be distinct? At what point does a piece of plastic stop being a piece of plastic and start being a cup, or container? Does it lose its original identity, or does it have separate identities?
What paradox do you run into when finding out the truth about 1+2?
Everything you've written is just an assertion, with zero basis in reality.
What is intuitive about ethics and morality?
Read 'the trolley problem' and all its varieties, Phillipa Foote and her proponents make some great arguments, some of which are very difficult to 'intuit'.
NietzscheKeen
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Sounds like a lot of people simply go with the last opinion they've heard. I'm growing tired of the platitudes and banal musings on enlightenment.
It bothers me that people equate the word "intuition" with psychic abilities. Gandhi was hardly enlightened, he was an activist. If you want enlightened, go to the library and check out a book by Alan Watts.
It bothers me that people equate the word "intuition" with psychic abilities. Gandhi was hardly enlightened, he was an activist. If you want enlightened, go to the library and check out a book by Alan Watts.
PetFlora
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It's hard to make any sense out of an artificial construct like a matrix run by AI. The only way out is to first awaken to it, realize you chose to be here for over-soul lessons, and stay true to your true higher self and move on/out of the third dimension when it's time
Beefbisquit
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Artificial construct? What basis do you have for believing we're in an artificial construct? What proof do you have for another reality?
You haven't proven there's anything to awaken from yet, you've just asserted it to be true with no basis. Where is my higher self? Is it floating above me? I've yet to see any proof that we exist as anything other than our physical selves.
Are you suggesting time travel? The fourth dimension is often thought of as time, so it would seem to me, you are suggesting that we can time travel.
Good luck with that....
eye exaggerate
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...just read something yesterday that I thought was pretty cool. Time is the rhythm of the process of observation...something like that.
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PetFlora
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What is proof? You won't find it here, or in a book. It's inside... your higher self, which is neither your physical body, nor your physical experience
17th century Galileo was ostracized by science and church for saying the earth revolved around the sun. What proof did he have, or they for believing otherwise?
17th century Galileo was ostracized by science and church for saying the earth revolved around the sun. What proof did he have, or they for believing otherwise?
NietzscheKeen
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WTF! You got my attention with the first sentence, then made me roll my eyes with the others. I don't even want to visit this thread anymore... I think I might start a thread on epistemology. Who's with me?
Beefbisquit
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We've yet to discover the 'soul particle'. lol
tyler.durden
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Hey, Harrekin! I hope all is well. I haven't seen you around for a LONG time, glad you're back in this sub-forum...
Beefbisquit
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Nonsense. Galileo tracked the movement of stars and planets, and proof, is by definition, tangible not some mystic woo-woo that is completely un-falsifiable.