Frozen buds

PeyoteReligion

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Really religion? You of all people?

Okay let me dig some info up for you to read BRB


I don't agree with what he says about the fridge. All I know is everyone I do know, places them in air tight jars and puts them in a dark colored monotub anywhere around the house where temps aren't fluctuating.
Sorry a link to some other forum isn't cutting it for me. I suppose there is "too cold", but scientifically speaking thc degrades slower in cooler than room temps.


http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00450610903258144
The aim of the present study was to investigate the stability of cannabinoids incannabis resin slabs and cannabis extracts upon long-term storage. The levels oftetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabinol (CBN), cannabidiol (CBD) and canna-bigerol (CBG) on both neutral and acidic form were measured at room temperature,48C and 7208C for up to 4 years. Acidic THC degrades exponentially viadecarboxylation with concentration halve-lives of approximately 330 and 462 daysin daylight and darkness, respectively. The degradation of neutral THC seems tooccur somewhat slower. When cannabinoids were stored in extracted form at roomtemperature the degradation rate of acidic THC increased significantly relative toresin material with concentration halve-lives of 35 and 91 days in daylight anddarkness, respectively. Once cannabis material is extracted into organic solvents,care should be taken to avoid the influence of sunlight.
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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I dont believe thhat thc degrades to cbd. I believe it is THCA>THC>CBN. CBN does not produce a pleasant feeling. CBD is fantastic for pain and it regulates the high from THC but you dont get CBD from aging pot or degraded THC it is a cannnabinoid that is present in herb. If all you had to do was degrade THC to get CBD no one would be looking for high CBD strains they would just harvest their herb way late.

Another way of looking at it. Right on.

But, you do relize that Degration of THC into CBD was proven by scientist correct?
 

PeyoteReligion

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More from the same study...

A few studies have focused on the stability of cannabinoids in cannabis resin slabsand herbal material stored under various conditions. The levels of total CBD and THCin pulverised resin slabs seem to decrease exponentially upon storage at roomtemperature for a prolonged period of time12. At the same time, an initial increase inthe total CBN level followed by a slow decrease has been observed. The exponentialdecrease in total CBD and THC levels occur in both daylight and darkness, althoughthe concentration half-lives are shorter in light-exposed material.
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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No I'm not. It's a fact that thc degrades slower at cooler than room temps. I will post study after study if I need to.
smh... sorry bro


And that link I gave you was a advertisement on "weed jars" or whatever the fuck they call them.
There is a YouTube video on why you shouldn't place it in the fridge/freezer. That's why they made air tight jars for this reason
 

PeyoteReligion

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smh... sorry bro


And that link I gave you was a advertisement on "weed jars" or whatever the fuck they call them.
There is a YouTube video on why you shouldn't place it in the fridge/freezer. That's why they made air tight jars for this reason
I always store in a air tight jar, I thought that was assumed.
I read your link, it does have some validity to it. Yes the thc freezes, leaving it susceptible to breaking off the plant matter. But scientifically speaking the Thc IS degrading slower while frozen. I'm speaking on a molecular level, not a plant matter level. So yes, if you freeze your weed a toss it around a bunch the frozen headswill fall off more. But those frozen heads that fell off have degraded less because they were stored at a cool temp. Hell, even in the link you posted the article says to store it in a cool place like a fridge. Anything cooler than room templ is good for storage.
 

PeyoteReligion

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Id love to see that study actually because it goes against everything ive learned.s
You are correct. Oxidative degredation to thc results in CBN.
Cannabinol or (CBN) is an oxidative degradation product of THC. It may result from improper storage or curing and extensive processing, such as when making concentrates. It is usually formed when THC is exposed to UV light and oxygen over time.


More FenianBrotherhood misinformation. I think he dosent really know his cannabinoids very well.
 

CustomBudd

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Why do these things always have to turn into "I'm right, you're wrong, check out my research cause yours is stupid"? WHO CARES?!?! Its one thing to be informative and if someone doesnt want to hear what you have to say thats their loss. Rosey is gonna smoke this stuff regardless. Although I'd try to make some sort of concentrate out of it but thats just me. Lets all get along and enjoy the holiday...tomorrow
 

roseypeach

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Why do these things always have to turn into "I'm right, you're wrong, check out my research cause yours is stupid"? WHO CARES?!?! Its one thing to be informative and if someone doesnt want to hear what you have to say thats their loss. Rosey is gonna smoke this stuff regardless. Although I'd try to make some sort of concentrate out of it but thats just me. Lets all get along and enjoy the holiday...tomorrow
LOL see THAT is why I love it here at RIU. Mostly it's just really good spirited debate, which I am always up for. These guys are cool, it's the hateful ones out there that I avoid :roll:

I've learned never question a professional farmer. My buddy who shall remain nameless, knows his shit. It may not be exclusive to one thing but preservation is what he's all about.

BTW I can assure all that said THC levels are at optimum range :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen:
 

PeyoteReligion

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Why do these things always have to turn into "I'm right, you're wrong, check out my research cause yours is stupid"? WHO CARES?!?! Its one thing to be informative and if someone doesnt want to hear what you have to say thats their loss. Rosey is gonna smoke this stuff regardless. Although I'd try to make some sort of concentrate out of it but thats just me. Lets all get along and enjoy the holiday...tomorrow
It never became a pissing contest. No one called anybody stupid, I just posted scientific studies. Sorry you don't like science. I simply don't like the spread of misinformation. If I happen to know something for a fact, I'll support my claim with the burden of proof. Are you suggesting the point of debate is to loose? Or to not have healthy debate at all? Both sound absurd to me.
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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It never became a pissing contest. No one called anybody stupid, I just posted scientific studies. Sorry you don't like science. I simply don't like the spread of misinformation. If I happen to know something for a fact, I'll support my claim with the burden of proof. Are you suggesting the point of debate is to loose? Or to not have healthy debate at all? Both sound absurd to me.

Cool down Bro
 

AimAim

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Freezers still create Humidity, which creates water
Humidity IS water. And freezers don't "create" humidity. The absolute humidity (different from relative humidity) is constant once you seal a freezer bag. No amount of freezing is going to create humidity in your bags.
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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Humidity IS water. And freezers don't "create" humidity. No amount of freezing is going to create humidity in your bags.
Humidity is Water Vapor. Which the Human Eye cannot see intill it builds up to "dampness" or "Moisture"
A freezer takes this Humidity and freezes it, which is where we get "Freezer Burn"
If you don't know what freezer Burn is, I cannot help you.....

I use freezers bags alot depending on the amount of left overs. And within a week, bags, containers, even glass get freezer burnt
 

AZPsyclops

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You know, I've never smoked hash or made hash before. What's so great about it? I saw some once and thought it looked mighty odd so I didn't partake. Should I?
Hash is made out of trichomes that have been removed from the leaf, dried and pressed. I make mine with the sugar leaves and small lower buds that won't market. Tastes great and wow does it get you high fast.
 
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