Herbie's or Sannie's?? And in your opinion, why???

bamacheese

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Since I've said fuck attitude recently due to multiple reports of customs seizures, I need a new seed distributor. These are the two that I have heard the most positive things about.

So let's hear it folks..which one should I use, and why??? Any other recommendations are welcome of course!!!
 

brotherjericho

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I've ordered from Herbies twice, both times the gear came in less than 12 days from date of order. Not ordered from Sannie's but it seems that his shipments get yanked by customs more than anyone else's.
 

thecoolman

New Member
sannies you must sign for it. Most of sannies strains are mid grade with way to much b.s hype and i have tried many of his. The anesthesia from sannies breeders choice is great though.
Very few problems with attitude or sea of seeds or herbies.
 

brotherjericho

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I've ordered from Herbies twice, both times the gear came in less than 12 days from date of order. Not ordered from Sannie's but it seems that his shipments get yanked by customs more than anyone else's.
Oh, and I've ordered from the 'Tude twice as well...21 days and 38 days.
 

bamacheese

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See, I've ordered from attitude over 10 times. Almost every time, other that X-mas, and this time, the package arrives exactly 7 days from order date. No problems.

I've never had any seeds seized out of the 10 or so orders.

I might just start breeding my own seeds....Fuck it. I've needed to learn the practice for a while now anyway....

My next order will focus on genetics I want to breed and keep.
 

Bigby

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Never tried Herbies. Had nothing but success with both the service and quality of strains from Sannie. Every order has arrived within 5 days using extreme stealth at no extra cost.

Grown out about 28 of his plants now - Kolossus (15), Killing Fields (5), Sugar Punch (5), Mad Shack (3). All top quality genetics. Only one plant was lower yielding, a mutant mad-shack with extreme cal/mag issues. All the others were vigorous healthy and produced quality bud. The Sugar Punch is probably the best, with one of the Mad Shack coming second, Killing Fields is also great (but the purple ones can be a little lacking in strength for the Indica lovers). I'm gonna be growing his Shackzilla and Sannies Jack in my next grow - so happy with his genetics I see no reason to change. Will probably try his Herijuana at some point alongside his sat dom strains, see if I can get the best of both worlds.
 

karr

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I've only ordered from him once, just now twice but not in yet, and had no problems..

I ordered killing fields, but botched the grow at the end, my fault but still came out quite well considering.


Have some herijuana on the way, how do you all like this strain?
 

bamacheese

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Never tried Herbies. Had nothing but success with both the service and quality of strains from Sannie. Every order has arrived within 5 days using extreme stealth at no extra cost.

Grown out about 28 of his plants now - Kolossus (15), Killing Fields (5), Sugar Punch (5), Mad Shack (3). All top quality genetics. Only one plant was lower yielding, a mutant mad-shack with extreme cal/mag issues. All the others were vigorous healthy and produced quality bud. The Sugar Punch is probably the best, with one of the Mad Shack coming second, Killing Fields is also great (but the purple ones can be a little lacking in strength for the Indica lovers). I'm gonna be growing his Shackzilla and Sannies Jack in my next grow - so happy with his genetics I see no reason to change. Will probably try his Herijuana at some point alongside his sat dom strains, see if I can get the best of both worlds.

I was glad to see a response by you, Bigby!!! I know you might be slightly favored in opinion, but the evidence you've provided shows the reason why.

It's the same reason I continue to order TGA gear...Solid dank. Always.
 

Edgar9

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Herbies is a middle man where sannie breeds his own seeds and has seeds from a few other breeders that he works with. It's kind of like eating at a chain(herbies) versus a family restaurant. You'll most likely get better service from sannie b/c his name's on the door. His strains, both personal lines and his breeders choice, are very popular and I have never been disappointed. I know @coolman isn't that impressed with his entire line b/c I remember another thread where he complained about killing fields and again on this thread he mentioned the "hype". There's hype for a reason though IMO and @coolman is in the minority. Many feel his genetics are superior and he does have a loyal following.
Try shackzilla. Short veg time of about 10 days and then flower for 3 months. You'll end up with 4.5 feet tall plants. It's the most popular strain in the coffee shops in Holland.

Side note: I'm not saying @coolman is wrong, in that there may be some strains he carries that are nothing special. I can eat at the best restaurant and not like every dish they serve. People however do like the majority of his offerings. I've done shackzilla, mad shack, mad scientist and jackberry. Next up is caramel cough which is a breeders choice seed under dynasty seeds.
 

calicat

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I've only ordered from him once, just now twice but not in yet, and had no problems..

I ordered killing fields, but botched the grow at the end, my fault but still came out quite well considering.


Have some herijuana on the way, how do you all like this strain?
Quite narcotic but its not a great yielder. Left alone it taste like coffee if you are into that taste. Their extrema is primo weed but a low yielder. I hope they fixed their herijuana because it was herm prone but I hear their batch from recently does not have any issues atm.
 

calicat

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Never tried ordering from Herbies. I do order from Sannies and eventhough had hermie issues with extrema. One I could not reverse. I am quite satisfied with that strain very narcotic a great nighttime smoke. The madshack I'll be pulling soon is probably the best plant I had in flower in its overall profile. I had extrema, kosher kush, c99, trainwreck,og#18,boss hogg,chemdawg, and a jabbas stash in there with that amazing mad shack ( note mad shack was a freebie not an actual strain of theirs..yet..). I have kolossus going into flower next week aside from some other goodies. Just popped some chocolate rain with just one more waiting to germinate. Now its unfortunate your package got seized but you have to realize that it is probably the initial drop point on US soil. So it doesnt really matter what seed company you go to if the initial drop point is an ISP that really does their job then your chances of seizure increases. It has happened to me before years ago when I directly ordered from Nirvana and they would not replace it. I know attitude and sannies will replace their orders if they do get seized. Herbies not sure or other companies. best of luck with your search.
 

karr

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I recall reading about the herm problem, as well as the yeild consideration. I'm hoping the herm thing passed, I'll look for more current grows. I am expecting the yeild to be low, as sannie is up front on this.

Still looking for that one strain to keep for extended time. Almost went for agent orange, but sold out haha
 

thecoolman

New Member
Herbies is a middle man where sannie breeds his own seeds and has seeds from a few other breeders that he works with. It's kind of like eating at a chain(herbies) versus a family restaurant. You'll most likely get better service from sannie b/c his name's on the door. His strains, both personal lines and his breeders choice, are very popular and I have never been disappointed. I know @coolman isn't that impressed with his entire line b/c I remember another thread where he complained about killing fields and again on this thread he mentioned the "hype". There's hype for a reason though IMO and @coolman is in the minority. Many feel his genetics are superior and he does have a loyal following.
Try shackzilla. Short veg time of about 10 days and then flower for 3 months. You'll end up with 4.5 feet tall plants. It's the most popular strain in the coffee shops in Holland.

Side note: I'm not saying @coolman is wrong, in that there may be some strains he carries that are nothing special. I can eat at the best restaurant and not like every dish they serve. People however do like the majority of his offerings. I've done shackzilla, mad shack, mad scientist and jackberry. Next up is caramel cough which is a breeders choice seed under dynasty seeds.
Killing fields sucks balls very very weak and fluffy( almost no pics are of dried buds). Ko only fair and worse than pathetic yield. Herijuana ok potency stretchy structure no taste smells like milk thisle the
only posisble use would be for breeding maybe to open up a plant and branch it out, Hercules good yield and decent appearance however its harsh and also has a very weird smell, jackbery is a week strain and is lower potency.
Sannnies genetics are sub par particularly when compared to California genetics especially in smell but in potency as well. Of course almost all dutch seeds are.
I can say that if you want dutch seeds serious seeds were better than sannies with the exeption of Sannies anesthesia which is a real winner. If you look around many people will agree.
Most of those that don't are from states with low quality bud.
 

AltarNation

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Quite narcotic but its not a great yielder. Left alone it taste like coffee if you are into that taste. Their extrema is primo weed but a low yielder. I hope they fixed their herijuana because it was herm prone but I hear their batch from recently does not have any issues atm.
Agreed! Very narcotic, an amazing heavy stone that makes me feel like I'm on percs for an hour, then I go to sleep, lol.

Not a great yielder. I had the same results there. But what did yield was dense, sugary, and flavorful.

Coffee taste definitely, very earthy, almost on the "savory" side, if I had to describe it... definitely not "sweet". I actually really like it just for the diversity. It's nice to switch between the heri and fruitier strains for a taste variety.
 

Raze

Active Member
Ok, can only speak for Sannies and i've been a long time smoker of high grade stuff, for 16 years or more i'd guess. It's been legalized here fairly recently as well, the quality was always very good regardless. Sannies is very good imho, his strains are good, I would say Herijuana is a bit over hyped, it's quite strong, Sugar Punch is much stronger though. Every single strain i've tried is good though, even the freebies, Killing Fields x Space Queen freebie is insanely strong and wreaks! As strong or stronger than Sugar Punch!! I would highly recommend people try the Silverfields as it's basically a modified version of Sugar Punch and Sugar Punch wont be in stock for a few more months. Some growers that have both like SilverFields better, I haven't tried it yet so can't comment, but the grow and smoke report was impressive. Mad Scientist was very good, Anesthesia is good (1st run wasn't ideal, but it was still stroooong), Ms.Universe is awesome and has a fantastic buzz, great flavor too, one of my favorites. Selene is suppose to be great (high yielding Killing fields cross, will update in the future), i'd recommend any Killing Fields cross really. The one cross I had was ridiculous, strong sativa, that kind of makes you retarded for a while.. Sannie will reship on orders if they're snagged, prices are cheap too. Would def say Silverfields, Sugar Punch, Anesthesia, Ms.Universe, and Heri are worth checking. Haven't got to check as much of their stuff as i want yet. Chocolate Rain and Holy Princess are getting good reviews pretty much everywhere, do some searches..
 

thecoolman

New Member
ok, can only speak for sannies and i've been a long time smoker of high grade stuff, for 16 years or more i'd guess. It's been legalized here fairly recently as well, the quality was always very good regardless. Sannies is very good imho, his strains are good, i would say herijuana is a bit over hyped, it's quite strong, sugar punch is much stronger though. Every single strain i've tried is good though, even the freebies, killing fields x space queen freebie is insanely strong and wreaks! As strong or stronger than sugar punch!! I would highly recommend people try the silverfields as it's basically a modified version of sugar punch and sugar punch wont be in stock for a few more months. Some growers that have both like silverfields better, i haven't tried it yet so can't comment, but the grow and smoke report was impressive. Mad scientist was very good, anesthesia is good (1st run wasn't ideal, but it was still stroooong), ms.universe is awesome and has a fantastic buzz, great flavor too, one of my favorites. Selene is suppose to be great (high yielding killing fields cross, will update in the future), i'd recommend any killing fields cross really. The one cross i had was ridiculous, strong sativa, that kind of makes you retarded for a while.. Sannie will reship on orders if they're snagged, prices are cheap too. Would def say silverfields, sugar punch, anesthesia, ms.universe, and heri are worth checking. Haven't got to check as much of their stuff as i want yet. Chocolate rain and holy princess are getting good reviews pretty much everywhere, do some searches..
lmfao...........................................
 

Pacificplanter

Active Member
Most everyone I know wouldn't say Herijuana is hype, but that it is the ONE strain to help them with their serious pain issues. Yes, the yield does lack some. Once you got a clone of her, she likes to be topped and scrogged. The Extrema I got yields quite a bit more than the Herijuana, all 8 of them did, or will. Not a fan of the Extrema as much as I am the regular Herijuana. I would also veg the Herijuana for 6 weeks to max your yield, from clone. I am also mere 3-4 days from chopping 2 Mad Shacks, 2 Hericules, 3 Sugar Punch, 2 Shackzillas and a Kollossus. Got some Chucky's Bride drying and curing. Everything I have grown from Sannies is dank. Near %100 germination rates. %65 females or better. More than a dozen orders, both guaranteed shipping and regular, received them all with no customs ripoffs, ever. I always got my order in less than 3 weeks, sometimes in 1, to the west coast. The average seed is $3-4. I miss his epic freebees, but other than that, what's to complain about? Eskobar is a serious up and comer you should check out. Peace and happy 420!!
 
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