They hate us for our freedoms

[gagekko]

cops are there to enforce the law not make it up in order to create a crime due to ignorance and negligence

it is illegal for an officer to harass without provocation or in order to prevent stop or inhibit a crime, there was no crime

lets not trivialize our laws cause some bad apples do just that, its illogical

and its illegal, but like i said cops wanting to be law abideing is not the norm as they know they can get away with it, jsut like most repeat criminals . . they assume they wont get caught or dont care if they do

not the kind of role model we as citizens need as LAW ENFORCEMENT

America needs confidence in their LEO not fear

besides he was just a city gang official ,only real cops are sheriffs, fed mandated law officers vs cities creating gangs with badges

londonfog, ex paratrooper, thinks there is nothing wrong with cowering down to some fat power hungry cop - that's his choice, i guess :/

 

[londonfog]

I say he was taking care of his kid - he was probably trying to show him that dad was a war hero and shouldn't let some fat cop push him around. Did you notice he wore his rank on their little hike?

Just because you don't care about your country the way he does, doesn't make you right and him wrong. I hope you only have daughters - either that or went something happens with a cop, u'll show your son what being metro-sexual is all about.

You have a very hard time with memory recall..don't you remember me writing that I take my daughter and son hunting. I have another daughter but she refuses to go..lol...and the only thing he taught his son that day was how to cry. Good job dad

T

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

londonfog, ex paratrooper, thinks there is nothing wrong with cowering down to some fat power hungry cop - that's his choice, i guess :/

there is nothing wrong with that, but unless in the process of a crime the later situation, him asserting his right to walk freely with his second amendment rights and civil rights is also true

one being true does not make the other invalid or null and void. the cops was the issue he should have calmly ascertained what the situation was, not acted like john wayne and abuse siad vet's civil rights

 

[gagekko]

Post deleted cause I was heading towards being a douche - my apologies

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

nice G, got to stay level headed, no amount of reality can stop it if your agro

 

[gagekko]

You have a very hard time with memory recall..don't you remember me writing that I take my daughter and son hunting. I have another daughter but she refuses to go..lol...and the only thing he taught his son that day was how to cry. Good job dad

T

Look bro, my theory on the matter is this... You are at a different place in your life than this guy. He still buying into this Johnny Rambo crap - you lived it... He thinks guns are a big deal, you think family is a big deal.

Honestly, I'm more like you, I think... I avoid cops cause I don't enjoy confrontation - I got a big mouth and a temper... Haha, the cop probably would tasered my ass I don't own guns, at least that I'd ever admit to and I sure as hell wouldn't walk down the street with one combat harnessed to me - that's just lame.

But the fact is, this guy had a right to do it. Was it smart? No... Did he pay the price? Sure did, he probably gotta put his kid in therapy now.

But fuck... He didn't break any laws other that think he lived in a free country and had the right to a day out with his son, without being bullied by some cop. But that's my opinion.

 

[londonfog]

Look bro, my theory on the matter is this... You are at a different place in your life than this guy. He still buying into this Johnny Rambo crap - you lived it... He thinks guns are a big deal, you think family is a big deal.

Honestly, I'm more like you, I think... I avoid cops cause I don't enjoy confrontation - I got a big mouth and a temper... Haha, the cop probably would tasered my ass I don't own guns, at least that I'd ever admit to and I sure as hell wouldn't walk down the street with one combat harnessed to me - that's just lame.

But the fact is, this guy had a right to do it. Was it smart? No... Did he pay the price? Sure did, he probably gotta put his kid in therapy now.

But fuck... He didn't break any laws other that think he lived in a free country and had the right to a day out with his son, without being bullied by some cop. But that's my opinion.

You missing the point. He was not arrested for carrying a firearm. He was arrested for being stupid and impeding an officers investigation of a phone call made by a civilian... Sorry guy but Msgt Christopher J. Grisham was stupid and this whole shit could have been avoided. A quick "I'm using my rifle for protection ".. he is on his way. You trying to defend a guy who made the problem for himself

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

inquiring about a call is not an investigation, thats a stretch

did you even listen to the legal precedents this kids says to these cops
[video=youtube;ugw8Py_b_HE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugw8Py_b_HE[/video]

and there are many more, police do not have a right to detaine or stop a citizen becuase of a legal open carry, with that logic anyone near an accident with a car could be arrested for hit and run . . . . . . .correlation is not causation and so forth

laws are not their to be trivialized . . or at least the constitution and civil rights

i mean phone call investigations thats some 1984 shit . .

 

[gagekko]

You missing the point. He was not arrested for carrying a firearm. He was arrested for being stupid and impeding an officers investigation of a phone call made by a civilian... Sorry guy but Msgt Christopher J. Grisham was stupid and this whole shit could have been avoided. A quick "I'm using my rifle for protection ".. he is on his way. You trying to defend a guy who made the problem for himself

I feel we are going around in circles. I think the cop overstepped his bounds by arresting someone that just told him to fuck off.

Let's say I hate my neighbor - he's a douche (like I might be sometimes)... He plays his music too loud and he has people over all the time that park in front of my house - and I hate that shit. Well, tonight was the last straw. I came home late from a hard day at work and some big SUV is in front of my mailbox all up close to the curb I can barely get my mail out. I'm hating life and want to bring my neighbor down a peg or two... So I call the cops. I tell them I hear shouting and I think maybe there is someone in trouble - a chick perhaps. I make this shit up cause I'm lame.

So now the police come in and harass my neighbor... My neighbor is pissed cause all him and his friends are doing is having a good time. So he tells the cops there is nothing like that going on and he slams the door in the cops face. Well, mr Leo don't take kindly to that so they kick in the door and taser the guy that slammed the door for impeding and investigation - not the douche-bag neighbor that called it in (see, told ya I can be a douche).

So now the guy has to go to jail ? Seems grossly unfair to me. Maybe he didn't handle things wisely but sometimes shit happens. All he was doing was hanging with friends, now the night is ruined and he's facing criminal charges.

Suck, doesn't it?

 

[burgertime2010]

America is just a bad area for a dictatorial government. The Govt knows this. For all purposes we are basically a huge Afghanistan. We are hugely armed, able to fight and shoot, posses a win-win mentality, extremely resourceful, can build an economy of weaponry, alcohol, and weed. This country is a headache to occupy. End of the day, that may be the best thing and the last thing we Americans have going for us. We too large, stupid, crazy, and excitable to hold down. Like the Afghans.

The freedom to choose between Wal-Mart or Costco can never be compromised. We are occupied, just not militarily, we are perfect consumption units servicing a financial fascism. It is no headache to trick Americans into voluntarily fucking themselves

 

[londonfog]

I feel we are going around in circles. I think the cop overstepped his bounds by arresting someone that just told him to fuck off.

Let's say I hate my neighbor - he's a douche (like I might be sometimes)... He plays his music too loud and he has people over all the time that park in front of my house - and I hate that shit. Well, tonight was the last straw. I came home late from a hard day at work and some big SUV is in front of my mailbox all up close to the curb I can barely get my mail out. I'm hating life and want to bring my neighbor down a peg or two... So I call the cops. I tell them I hear shouting and I think maybe there is someone in trouble - a chick perhaps. I make this shit up cause I'm lame.

So now the police come in and harass my neighbor... My neighbor is pissed cause all him and his friends are doing is having a good time. So he tells the cops there is nothing like that going on and he slams the door in the cops face. Well, mr Leo don't take kindly to that so they kick in the door and taser the guy that slammed the door for impeding and investigation - not the douche-bag neighbor that called it in (see, told ya I can be a douche).

So now the guy has to go to jail ? Seems grossly unfair to me. Maybe he didn't handle things wisely but sometimes shit happens. All he was doing was hanging with friends, now the night is ruined and he's facing criminal charges.

Suck, doesn't it?

Cool story bro..

My turn.

My wife and I were preparing for our first child. Being a new father and all, I was pretty nervous to say the least. I was just assigned to a new base and received off base housing at the time.

I was on base one night when I received the call from my wife that her water broke. I asked her had she called the ambulance. She said NO she wanted me to take her to the medical center on base ( as was the plan ). I immediately let it be none to my crew that my wife was in labor. Big cheers filled the room. I left that base going 80 miles an hour trying reach home.

Two blocks from my place . I get the red and blue lights in back of me. I pull over and fumbling for my license I tell the officer I'm having a baby and my water just broke. The officer looks at me with a puzzled face and says " "your water just broke". I try to gather myself and tell him no my wife's water just broke and I need to get her to the hospital. I tell him I live just around the corner at ( I give him the address ). He laughs and tells me to follow him whilst keeping my license.

I follow behind, with him using his lights and siren ( although he was going slower then I was before he made me stop). When we reached my place my wife was already outside half sitting and laying on the steps. The officer says "you want me to call the Ambulance" She again says ( well actually yells ) Get me to the Medical Center". I still remember the sigh the officer let out as he once again says "follow me" We did.

With lights a blazing we arrive at the front gate of my base. I tell the officer thank you and off we went to have our child. The next day guess who came to the medical center...the officer he had forgot to give me back my license. He also brought a police teddy bear for my child.

freaking awesome isn't it.

 

[NoDrama]

Cool story bro..

My turn.

My wife and I were preparing for our first child. Being a new father and all, I was pretty nervous to say the least. I was just assigned to a new base and received off base housing at the time.

I was on base one night when I received the call from my wife that her water broke. I asked her had she called the ambulance. She said NO she wanted me to take her to the medical center on base ( as was the plan ). I immediately let it be none to my crew that my wife was in labor. Big cheers filled the room. I left that base going 80 miles an hour trying reach home.

Two blocks from my place . I get the red and blue lights in back of me. I pull over and fumbling for my license I tell the officer I'm having a baby and my water just broke. The officer looks at me with a puzzled face and says " "your water just broke". I try to gather myself and tell him no my wife's water just broke and I need to get her to the hospital. I tell him I live just around the corner at ( I give him the address ). He laughs and tells me to follow him whilst keeping my license.

I follow behind, with him using his lights and siren ( although he was going slower then I was before he made me stop). When we reached my place my wife was already outside half sitting and laying on the steps. The officer says "you want me to call the Ambulance" She again says ( well actually yells ) Get me to the Medical Center". I still remember the sigh the officer let out as he once again says "follow me" We did.

With lights a blazing we arrive at the front gate of my base. I tell the officer thank you and off we went to have our child. The next day guess who came to the medical center...the officer he had forgot to give me back my license. He also brought a police teddy bear for my child.

freaking awesome isn't it.

Cool story bro,

Once I had someone vandalize my vehicle, but I had caught it all on video and so had evidence to give the sheriffs deputy.

Think they gave a shit? Nope. First thing the officer does is ask ME for my ID, registration, license and then gives me the riot act asking why I think I need a video camera. I tell him he can go pound sand as his job is to investigate the crime that has happened and not harass the person calling the crime in. He says he can arrest me for inhibiting an investigation. I tell him to go fuck himself because he can only ask for my ID, he cannot demand it unless I have committed some crime that he witnessed. I go inside my house and call the sheriff and report the officer for bad conduct. The next day a different officer came out and I told him the same thing. He just took the DVD and left. That was 5 years ago.

I live near a smaller town, a neighborly place, yet the cops here are just as fucked up as the rest.

 

[Harrekin]

Cool story bro,

Once I had someone vandalize my vehicle, but I had caught it all on video and so had evidence to give the sheriffs deputy.

Think they gave a shit? Nope. First thing the officer does is ask ME for my ID, registration, license and then gives me the riot act asking why I think I need a video camera. I tell him he can go pound sand as his job is to investigate the crime that has happened and not harass the person calling the crime in. He says he can arrest me for inhibiting an investigation. I tell him to go fuck himself because he can only ask for my ID, he cannot demand it unless I have committed some crime that he witnessed. I go inside my house and call the sheriff and report the officer for bad conduct. The next day a different officer came out and I told him the same thing. He just took the DVD and left. That was 5 years ago.

I live near a smaller town, a neighborly place, yet the cops here are just as fucked up as the rest.

Should've just sorted it out yourself, ala American History X.

Just IMO.

 

[NoDrama]

Should've just sorted it out yourself, ala American History X.

Just IMO.

Taken matters into my own hands? Horrific.

 

[londonfog]

Cool story bro,

Once I had someone vandalize my vehicle, but I had caught it all on video and so had evidence to give the sheriffs deputy.

Think they gave a shit? Nope. First thing the officer does is ask ME for my ID, registration, license and then gives me the riot act asking why I think I need a video camera. I tell him he can go pound sand as his job is to investigate the crime that has happened and not harass the person calling the crime in. He says he can arrest me for inhibiting an investigation. I tell him to go fuck himself because he can only ask for my ID, he cannot demand it unless I have committed some crime that he witnessed. I go inside my house and call the sheriff and report the officer for bad conduct. The next day a different officer came out and I told him the same thing. He just took the DVD and left. That was 5 years ago.

I live near a smaller town, a neighborly place, yet the cops here are just as fucked up as the rest.

Seems like your neighbors and police think you are a dick