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bazoomer

bazoomer

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URGENT question lads please, im just about to use canna flush, it has bought my res ph down to 4.3, should i ph up with the flush added ?
 
bazoomer

bazoomer

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The Yorkshireman said:
Yes, PH last after you've mixed everything.
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that's what i thought, only flush added to my 40ltr tank wich will do about 3 days watering , then i was gonna do a plain water run for another few days, sound ok Yorkie ? ...thanks m8. never done this flushing lark b4, but then if you smoke crap all youre life ,you become used to it, until u try something new .
 
delvite

delvite

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picture bump...............................................

day 24 of growth, day 8 of 12/12 ( lights off )



...........and day 26 of growth and day 10 of 12/12...................................






.........................................fookin flying ;)
 
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IC3M4L3

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under 9 remeber so 8 and below

fuking hell i need to behave just heard my 3 yr old shoutin "NIGGERS" to the nighbors,(yeh ther black)LOL
 
indikat

indikat

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IC3M4L3 said:
under 9 remeber so 8 and below

fuking hell i need to behave just heard my 3 yr old shoutin "NIGGERS" to the nighbors,(yeh ther black)LOL
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[h=1]Cultivation or Production of Cannabis[/h]Date Produced: 14 February 2012
Title: Drugs
Offence: Cultivation or Production of Cannabis
Legislation: Section 6 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for cultivation, Section 4 (2) Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 for production
Mode of Trial: Either Way
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 14 years

The definitive drugs guideline comes into place on 27 February 2012 and applies to all drug offences sentenced after that date.
The new guideline may cause an upward shift in the length of sentence for offenders being sentenced for Class B production/cultivation.
[h=2]The route to sentence:-[/h][h=2]Step 1[/h]determine the offender's role; then the category of the offence.
[h=3]The offenders role[/h][h=4]Leading role[/h]
  • Directing or organising production on a commercial scale;
  • Substantial links to, and influence on, others in a chain;
  • Expectation of substantial financial gain;
  • Uses business as cover;
  • Abuses a position of trust or responsibility.
[h=4]Significant role[/h]
  • Operation or management function within a chain;
  • Involves others in the operation whether by pressure, influence, intimidation or reward;
  • Motivated by financial or other advantage, whether or not operating alone;
  • Some awareness and understanding of scale of operation.
[h=4]Lesser role[/h]
  • Performs a limited function under direction;
  • Engaged by pressure, coercion, intimidation;
  • Involvement through naivety/exploitation;
  • No influence on those above in a chain;
  • Very little, if any, awareness or understanding of the scale of operation;
  • If own operation, solely for own use (considering reasonableness of account in all the circumstances).
[h=3]The category of harm is determined by the output/potential output of the operation.[/h][h=4]Category 1[/h]an operation capable of producing industrial quantities for commercial use. E.g. a factory, farming size greenhouses or houses dedicated to the growing of cannabis. Look for 'gardeners exploited and trapped in the set up, and networked operation cultivating cannabis over various sites'.
[h=4]Category 2[/h]an operation capable of producing significant quantities for commercial use. It is easy to identify the smaller operations that fall into category 2; they will be a room or loft dedicated to the growing and drying of cannabis; more 'cottage industry' than 'factory.' What is not so easy is to distinguish top end category 2 from a category 1 case; the only difference between the 2 categories is category 1 is defined as the production of 'industrial' quantities as opposed to 'significant' quantities in category 2.
[h=4]Category 3[/h]28 plants with an assumed yield of 40g per plant.
[h=4]Category 4[/h]9 plant domestic operation.
It is worth noting that the guideline assumes a yield of 40g a plant. Up to now a plants yield has often been in issue; it may be that the guideline assumption of 40g a plant will become the standard projection in calculating a plants yield.
Category 1, 2 and 3 cases are likely to share some of the following features:-

  1. sophisticated growing system
  2. measures taken to conceal the operation;
  3. plants well tended;
  4. abstraction of electricity or electricity supplied by a generator;
  5. look for discarded plant debris (significant amount of rotting stalks/vegetation indicates that there has been earlier growing cycles).
With bottom end category 2 growers and category 3 growers the question arises of what use is to be made of the cannabis. In mitigation the defence may provide a basis of plea which suggest that the offender is supplying to friends; the phrase 'social supply' is often used. Beware of the phrase 'social supply' (see R v. Auton, Hindle, Vincent and Willis [2011] EWCA Crim. 76) supply to friends is unlikely to be free, and supply makes the offence more serious; producers of cannabis are popular and have a lot of close friends when it comes to 'social supply.'
[h=2]Step 2[/h]sentencing range
[h=3]Category 1[/h][h=4]Leading role[/h]Starting Point: 8 years
Category Range: 7-10
[h=4]Significant role[/h]Starting Point: 5 years 6 months
Category Range: 5-7
[h=4]Lesser role[/h]Starting Point: 3 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
[h=3]Category 2[/h][h=4]Leading role[/h]Starting Point: 6 years
Category Range: 4yrs 6mnths-8 yrs
[h=4]Significant role[/h]Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 yrs 6 mnths-5yrs
[h=4]Lesser role[/h]Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
[h=3]Category 3[/h][h=4]Leading role[/h]Starting Point: 4 years
Category Range: 2 years 6 months-5 years
[h=4]Significant role[/h]Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: 26 weeks-3 years
[h=4]Lesser role[/h]Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: low level community order to 26 weeks
[h=3]Category 4[/h][h=4]Leading role[/h]Starting Point: 1 year
Category Range: High level community order-3 years
[h=4]Significant role[/h]Starting Point: High level community order
Category Range: Medium level community order-26 weeks
[h=4]Lesser role[/h]Starting Point: Band C fine
Category Range: Discharge- Medium level community order
The sentencing starting point is adjusted up or down by a list of additional aggravating and mitigating factors set out in the guideline. Described as a non exhaustive list it may on occasion be appropriate to move outside the identified category range.
Aggravating Features

  • Previous convictions
  • Offence committed on bail
  • Nature of any likely supply
  • Use of premises accompanied by unlawful abstraction of electricity/other utilities
  • Ongoing/large scale operation as evidenced by presence and nature of specialist equipment
  • Exposure of others to more than unusual danger, for example drugs cut with harmful substances
  • Attempts to conceal or dispose of evidence, where not charged separately
  • Presence of others, especially children
  • Presence of weapons where not charged separately
  • High purity or high potential yield
  • Failure to comply with current court orders
  • Offence committed on licence
  • Established evidence of community impact
[h=2]Mitigating Features[/h]
  • Involvement due to pressure, intimidation or coercion failing short of duress, except where already taken into account in step 1
  • Isolated incident
  • Low purity
  • No previous convictions or no relevant or recent convictions
  • Offender's vulnerability was exploited
  • Remorse
  • Good character and or exemplary conduct
  • Determination and/or demonstration of steps having been taken to address addiction or offending behaviour
  • Serious medical conditions requiring urgent, intensive or long term treatment
  • Age and/or lack of maturity where it affects the responsibility of the offender
  • Mental disorder or learning disability
  • Sole or primary carer of dependent relatives
[h=2]Step 3[/h]
  • consider factors which indicate a reduction such as assistance to the prosecution
[h=2]Step 4[/h]
  • reduction for guilty plea
[h=2]Step 5[/h]
  • totality principle where sentencing for more than one offence or the offender is already serving.
[h=2]Step 6[/h]
  • confiscation and ancillary orders; including POCA, forfeiture orders and destruction orders
[h=2]Step 7[/h]
  • reasons/explanation for sentence
[h=2]Step 8[/h]
  • consider time spent on remand in custody or bail.
[h=2]Ancillary Orders[/h]POCA
Forfeiture orders
Destruction Confiscation
Car used to travel to the location where the cannabis grown? The court has power to ban an offender from driving under section 146/147 Power of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Act 2000
Travel restriction orders. Judge's have a wide discretion which has to be exercised carefully and has to be proportional R v. Mee2004 Crim L R 487 and section 33 CJ and Police Act 2001
Deportation

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trichome 1

trichome 1

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IC3M4L3 said:
under 9 remeber so 8 and below

fuking hell i need to behave just heard my 3 yr old shoutin "NIGGERS" to the nighbors,(yeh ther black)LOL
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lol I took my kids to the park after school and while pushing my son on the swing he noticed a black man pushing his daughter on the swing,my son's just turned 5 and he looked at me and said loudly"he's a very black man isn't he daddy" to which I had to laugh :)
 
trichome 1

trichome 1

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where a judge feels it is not in the interests of justice to do so, they can sentence outside of the guideline and up to the maximum set out by law.' for instance there was 2 grower one grew a little over £3000 worth and the other £9000 worth but because the grower that produced £3000 worth had 24 plants pro a sog setup he got suspended jail term where as the fella that had £9000 worth got a community order because he only had 8 plants,the judge will have the final say on any case and will put someone inside if he/she believed it was in the publics interests regardless of the guideline.
 
bazoomer

bazoomer

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The Yorkshireman said:
Yeah, sounds right if they've a week left. Have you tried using flush till the end but still cutting nutes 3-4 days before?
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No m8, to be honest I've never been one for flushing, so all new to me !, there's only flush in my res now , there in week 10 near enough & looking nice & ripe !
 
indikat

indikat

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trichome 1 said:
where a judge feels it is not in the interests of justice to do so, they can sentence outside of the guideline and up to the maximum set out by law.' for instance there was 2 grower one grew a little over £3000 worth and the other £9000 worth but because the grower that produced £3000 worth had 24 plants pro a sog setup he got suspended jail term where as the fella that had £9000 worth got a community order because he only had 8 plants,the judge will have the final say on any case and will put someone inside if he/she believed it was in the publics interests regardless of the guideline.
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which is why i grow 5 foot plants yield to risk ratio more acceptable
 
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