1st time journal: 6 plants, rdwc, 1000w, lemon skunk

[Spittn4cash]

I'm amazed..can't believe that's only 6 plants in there. Crazy jungle!

GreenHouse Seeds says Lemon Skunk can go up to 65 days, I would aim there for a chop date....You can flush a week before harvest, and I think the Clearex recommends flushing 7 - 10 days before harvest, so now would be a good time to start.

I've read that Clearex isn't actually necessary for a good flush, the 0 ppm water is more important. Topping off with 0 ppm water would be easier and quicker, but Clearex breaks down salts faster and leaves a better taste (or so I've been told)...and since you've already spent money on it you might as well try it out.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/dwc-flush-time.3668/

The Flushing schedule is alternating:

(DAY 49 - DAY 50) water + clearex,
(DAY 51 - Day 52) regular 0 ppm water,
(DAY 53 - DAY 54) water + clearex,
(DAY 55 - DAY 56) regular 0 ppm water,
(DAY 57) Harvest.

*This is not a fixed schedule, it's just illustrating an alternating feeding of Clearex and 0 ppm water.

MMM Frosty ..almost ready



Spectacular grow. +Rep

 

[booort]

Thanks a lot cash, I was just about to bump this begging for advice, I feel so lost at this stage and not sure if I'm messing things up by still having nutrients in there.

Don't know if greenhouse seeds is the vendor or breeder, these are DNA genetics as the breeder. Shnkrmn who kindly posted pics of the same dna lemon skunks said he thought their estimate of 56 days was correct and not really exaggerated that much.

I like your thinking on using the Clearex since I already have it, I guess it can't hurt anything as long as I follow their guidelines.

My concern is the biggest looking bagseed flowers. It's flowers don't quite look as mature as the skunks (but they are much larger), and seem to be growing and filling out still (I think). I guess this is why it's best to grow just one strain at a time. If I start the flushing now, I could always chop the skunks and let the bagseed go another week all by itself in just plain pH water.

Here is one more shot of the top of a bagseed flower that doesn't look as ready as the skunks. Took this last night (day 49)
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2 more pics of the lemon skunks from last night as well:
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[booort]

I've read that Clearex isn't actually necessary for a good flush, the 0 ppm water is more important. Topping off with 0 ppm water would be easier and quicker, but Clearex breaks down salts faster and leaves a better taste (or so I've been told)...and since you've already spent money on it you might as well try it out.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/dwc-flush-time.3668/

The Flushing schedule is alternating:

(DAY 49 - DAY 50) water + clearex,
(DAY 51 - Day 52) regular 0 ppm water,
(DAY 53 - DAY 54) water + clearex,
(DAY 55 - DAY 56) regular 0 ppm water,
(DAY 57) Harvest.

*This is not a fixed schedule, it's just illustrating an alternating feeding of Clearex and 0 ppm water.

I went to the hyrdro shop yesterday to get a jeweler's loop for checking out the trichs, and the guy that helped me put this whole setup together in the beginning said pretty much the same thing you did Cash. Alternating 2 days of clearex, then 2 days pH water, then 2 days clearex, then 2 days water and should be pretty much flushed.

The only difference is he told me to add some Calmag to the pH water. I've googled this til my eyes have bleed and still don't know if I throw calmag in the water for flushing or not. Using R/O water filter removes all the good Ca and Mg, but I thought I wanted all that crap out of the plant during the final week anyways?

About day 52 here, going to drain and refill with Clearex today.

 

[Spittn4cash]

Yup you're right, the RO water removes everything, and thats the point of the flush. Since cal/mag is quickly absorbed by the plants, they'll suck it right up .....you can add cal/mag, but you will definitely taste it in your buds.

 

[booort]

Yup you're right, the RO water removes everything, and thats the point of the flush. Since cal/mag is quickly absorbed by the plants, they'll suck it right up .....you can add cal/mag, but you will definitely taste it in your buds.

Flushing seems to be another touchy issue with experts. Getting a definitive answer on the best way to do things has been difficult at times when learning. I posted in the noob forum as well asking for suggestions and found others saying they feed all the way til they chop and there is no difference in taste. I wish I could do a side by side comparison, but unfortunately all 6 buckets in the flower side are connected together and no way to separate nutes...I really need to figure out how to use a wort coil thing to be able to chill more than one reservoir at a time.

I pumped about 30 gallons of pH water through the system first to try to rinse things some, then filled with 10ml per gallon of Clearex. Ppm went from about 150 when I first added it, to 200ppm and stayed there for the last 24 hours. Plan is to leave the clearex in there for 48 hours then drain and fill with pH water and see where they are at.

 

[booort]

Clipped a small leaf off of center of each plant and took pictures of the trichomes through the jewelers loop. Probably needs a few more days, only seeing the occasional rare amber trich, not even 1% yet.

Bagseed 1:


Bagseed 2:


Bagseed 3 (tiniest plant, struggling and low yield):


Skunk 1:


Skunk 2:


Skunk 3:


Flushed another 30 gallons of pH RO water through the system to drain, then filled with just pH water. Day 3 of flushing now. Comments on how close they are would be much appreciated. I am hoping to chop the Skunks at day 56.

Veg room is getting out of control again, kind of stumped how to handle the next batch that will be moving into the flower room.

Shoreline seedlings at about 3 weeks from being thrown into rockwool to germ. Skunk clones and the best bagseed clone next to them taken 7 1/2 weeks ago. I don't know if it's possible for the shorelline to catch up the clones so they could all be moved to flower at the same time. Stupid planning again on my part.



Debating vegging the shorelines for a full 8 more weeks while the clones flower. This is going to be messy I think. Ugh.

 

[Spittn4cash]

Mannn...that bagseed 2 is looking frosty!!!! I don't see any amber on her though. Bagseed 1 has a few amber, she looks almost ready - few more days at most.

I see a lot of clear trich's on the skunk's, and maybe it's the lighting, but I see a few amber trich's on the skunks...I say a few more days, maybe a week to get really potent.

And are you able to 'extend' your flowering system? Can you add more buckets to flower more plants?

 

[booort]

Mannn...that bagseed 2 is looking frosty!!!! I don't see any amber on her though. Bagseed 1 has a few amber, she looks almost ready - few more days at most.

I see a lot of clear trich's on the skunk's, and maybe it's the lighting, but I see a few amber trich's on the skunks...I say a few more days, maybe a week to get really potent.

And are you able to 'extend' your flowering system? Can you add more buckets to flower more plants?

First, thanks so much for posting your thoughts on it. I wonder about what to do with these plants all day in my head it seems, and any little bit of advice helps and means a lot to me as virgin harvester. The others that offered advice in the past here seem to have taken a break from the forums (nature of this hobby and forum I guess).

As for their readiness, I was sort of thinking the same thing except for the bagseed 1. It looks like the majority are white hairs still and nothing receding like the others, it was the one I planned to chop last. The lighting does kind of suck on the trich pictures. Overall the skunks look more ready to me than anything else in the room if I had to guess.

I might be able to squeeze in 2 more buckets to the flower side and have them in just DWC and not recirculating. The water temp would be 80 degrees in those bucket easily since they aren't connected to the chiller. Guess I'll see what the younger shoreline seedlings look like after I cut everything down in the flower and clean it all out.

Few more pics from last night (day 54)

bagseed 1 on right with larger colas, skunk on the left:

 

[booort]

Still haven't chopped any of them yet, not seeing that much amber on the trichs. Maybe 1% amber at the very most and about 80% milky I would say.

Another day can't hurt I guess. Posted a pic in the harvesting forum and was told they look ready. Day 6 of flushing with Clearex (changed res twice so far). PPM reads zero, pH is dropping....down to about 5.0...Not sure if I pH UP it some or just leave it.






Found 2 seeds, probably more back there where I can't see since I have no access yet. Have to chop the frosty bagseed plant in the front first to get access to the ones behind it.

Not sure if I should be bummed out because of the 2 seeds I found, something obviously hermied, but maybe the seeds can be put to good use later. The bagseed with the 2 seeds is very frosty and pungent.


Visible seed on top

 

[BleedsGreen]

Congrats brother! They look beautiful, give em another day or so and chop away, even the bagseed, while I agree they could go longer they aren't getting any help with zero nutes. I guarantee they will be better then anything you bought recently that wasn't fresh.

Be happy for your success, you have done a great job my friend. Sorry I haven't been around lately been traveling for work the past 2 weeks. Although I can see you have done excellent with out much support! Enjoy!

 

[booort]

Thanks Bleedsgreen. Looking forward to it getting dry so I can sample it.

I chopped all of one bagseed and the majority of the 3 lemon skunks. Left the enormous bagseed in the back, this is a big yielder I think, but I don't think I am gonna like the smoke based on looking at it. The lemon skunks just looks like a superior product. Left a lot of the underdeveloped buds that weren't getting much light. Any idea if these lower flowers will mature more in the coming days? Doubt it hurts anything, but I am anxious to get the flower room cleaned and the next batch going.



I used a leftover bathroom shower casing that I had in the basement to hang strings for drying. Temperature stays about 70 and rH about 50. Was hoping the humidity would get into the ideal range of 55-60, but that's not going to happen I guess. I guess I'll just keep checking the stems for "snapping but not breaking" and be ready to throw into mason jars in a few days.




3 clones and the Shoreline seeds chugging along. I really liked the way the lemon skunks turned out so I think I will keep one going as a mother. Then flower just 1 skunk, 1 hearty bagseed (not keeping a clone anymore) and hopefully throw a shoreline in with them too despite it being weeks behind.

 

[Spittn4cash]

but I don't think I am gonna like the smoke based on looking at it. The lemon skunks just looks like a superior product. Left a lot of the underdeveloped buds that weren't getting much light. Any idea if these lower flowers will mature more in the coming days?

....Man, are we looking at the same plants? Lol. Thats some DANK looking dope, in my opinion...both the bagseed and the skunks look like some A+ smoke.

The remainder will fatten up for you...but it may take a while (maybe a few weeks?), depending on what they look like now.

Looks like you've got about a pound so far...have you weighed it yet?

 

[booort]

....Man, are we looking at the same plants? Lol. Thats some DANK looking dope, in my opinion...both the bagseed and the skunks look like some A+ smoke.

The remainder will fatten up for you...but it may take a while (maybe a few weeks?), depending on what they look like now.

Looks like you've got about a pound so far...have you weighed it yet?

I don't think we are talking about the same plants, I haven't chopped this one yet. I was talking about the monster bagseed that is 1/3 of the room with several foot long colas. Hearty strong plant from the beginning with a lot of yield, but it just doesn't look nearly as frosty and pungent as the 3 lemon skunks. Giving this plant another day or two before I cut it.

Haven't weighed it, don't have a scale.

If I am looking at weeks instead of days for the remaining flowers to develop, I'll just chop em and throw it with the trim. Those 3 clones I took 8+ weeks ago desperately need to get into flowering.

The lemon skunks sure look and smell amazing to me. I thought the bagseed looked good until I started cutting the first lemon skunk. All 3 skunks were just covered in frost. Very pleased so far, hope it smokes as good as it looks.

 

[booort]

Planning on cutting everything that's left down tomorrow. I think they are just about ready, please correct me if anyone thinks I should wait. Not sure that a few more days is going to help the underdeveloped flowers that got very little light.

 

[booort]

Still in the process of cutting things down, I managed to finish just about all of the top layer, left a ton of lower underdeveloped branches that were sitting underneath the primary flower sites. There are seeds on a lot of these lower branches. Every plant I have manicured I found some seeds in. This looks like another controversial subject: are these seeds good? Quick searches here finds experienced growers arguing they are not due to the hermie quality being passed on, and others arguing they are fine. I am happy to have 25+seeds of this dna lemon skunk X mystery plant since I paid so damn much for the original 6 dna skunkseeds.

The lemon skunk is really something special, I couldn't be more pleased. It's the best quality I have seen in the last decade of smoking (granted I haven't grown but I have seen a lot of bags come and go). Pungent lemon scent, absolutely smothered in sticky frost and just gives off a "show quality". Going to try to keep one of the clones as a mother, or at least try to for the next 8 weeks while I flower 3 more.

The first bagseed I harvested was pretty "meh". The monster bagseed in the rear (have clone of it) looks like a solid yield, dense nugs and pungent. Just finished chopping this one's main flower sites yesterday, so I won't know how it smokes for some time. The lemon skunk just puts it to shame though in terms of overall appearance and smell. At a crossroads again, I'm considering killing off the monster bagseed clone despite it being such a heavy yielder. Would like to use the limited space to grow only strains I love, and doubt this bagseed is it. Hard to kill off such a healthy, fast growing, big yielder though. The fact I have seeds from each plant now might make this choice easier though. Just wish I could get a definitive answer on if these seeds will be worthy of sprouting at some point.

Not sure if anyone is still reading this, but I plan to finish this up with pics soon of the final product and aftermath and then pull the plug on this journal. Still not sure if it's just best to post these things to the journal blog or in the forum.

 

[Dirf]

Wow great results man. I have really enjoyed watching your grow and plant to scrog my next one!

 

[BleedsGreen]

Still in the process of cutting things down, I managed to finish just about all of the top layer, left a ton of lower underdeveloped branches that were sitting underneath the primary flower sites. There are seeds on a lot of these lower branches. Every plant I have manicured I found some seeds in. This looks like another controversial subject: are these seeds good? Quick searches here finds experienced growers arguing they are not due to the hermie quality being passed on, and others arguing they are fine. I am happy to have 25+seeds of this dna lemon skunk X mystery plant since I paid so damn much for the original 6 dna skunkseeds.

The lemon skunk is really something special, I couldn't be more pleased. It's the best quality I have seen in the last decade of smoking (granted I haven't grown but I have seen a lot of bags come and go). Pungent lemon scent, absolutely smothered in sticky frost and just gives off a "show quality". Going to try to keep one of the clones as a mother, or at least try to for the next 8 weeks while I flower 3 more.

The first bagseed I harvested was pretty "meh". The monster bagseed in the rear (have clone of it) looks like a solid yield, dense nugs and pungent. Just finished chopping this one's main flower sites yesterday, so I won't know how it smokes for some time. The lemon skunk just puts it to shame though in terms of overall appearance and smell. At a crossroads again, I'm considering killing off the monster bagseed clone despite it being such a heavy yielder. Would like to use the limited space to grow only strains I love, and doubt this bagseed is it. Hard to kill off such a healthy, fast growing, big yielder though. The fact I have seeds from each plant now might make this choice easier though. Just wish I could get a definitive answer on if these seeds will be worthy of sprouting at some point.

Not sure if anyone is still reading this, but I plan to finish this up with pics soon of the final product and aftermath and then pull the plug on this journal. Still not sure if it's just best to post these things to the journal blog or in the forum.

My Experience, just my experience, if you think you got the hermies from environmental conditions, light leak etc then those seeds would be fine. Since all of your plants have seeds I would think this is the case or somehow you pollinated. Either way I think the seeds will be fine. If no environmental factors are involved then you have a phenom that is prone to herm and you don't want it. I do not think this is your situation. You need to decide. Congrats on your harvest! Enjoy the rewards and get the room cleaned out and started again!

 

[Spittn4cash]

I'm waiting for the end of this kick ass grow.

I agree with BG...if it was a light leak, then congrats! you just made feminized seeds

But I think you had a "genetic" hermie...probably one of the bagseed females.

Right now the gender probability of seeds are something like (25% female/25% male) from the mother, and 50% hermie from the father. I wouldn't grow the seeds out - unless 1) you grew outdoors, or 2) if you saw some desirable traits from both strains, and are willing to take a gamble.

Plus you still have the clones, so....why fool around with hermie seeds? ya know?

 

[booort]

Finally finished and everything is in jars curing now. Didn't weigh it but here it is all in jars:




All the lower flowers were really seeded and I wound up taking about 20 or so off of each plant and saving them, no plans to sprout any of them but still nice to have if I get desperate. Would love to see the lemon skunk crossed with blueberry but seems like a lot of time and effort for a tiny chance at something decent and no clue what pollinated what. Won't let any branches hang below the canopy anymore as I guess that's what caused the hermie. Most importantly, won't stuff the room with plants preventing access to the plants in the corner of the room.

The monster bagseed plant made me sick, literally nauseous from the smell while trimming. None of the other 3 strains made me feel like puking. Sort of a sour smell to it and I absolutely hated trimming it. The nugs look decent, frosty and dense, and it filled 7 mason jars and have a big pile of it to make edibles/hash. But the smell really bums me out, I don't know if this is a cheese sour strain or something but I know I hate it. It's nothing rotten, it's a pungent sour weed smell I would say. Who cares I guess, never gonna know what it was and never gonna grow it again. Interesting experience though.

The blueberry smelling plant yielded only 2 medium sized mason jars after dried. The other bagseed was 2 large 1/2gallon mason jars. Lemon skunks almost filled 4 of the 1/2 gallon mason jars. Every bud in the lemon skunk jars is frosty and beautiful unlike the other strains which had some unattractive flowers (threw them in the trim pile not the jars). I don't think I will be growing any bagseeds again based on what the quality of the breeder seeds was vs the random 3 I was given.

Was so sick of the smell of the monster bagseed I wound up literally ripping the smaller nugs off the last half of the plant with my hand and throwing them on the screen to dry. Going to try to make dry ice hash with this stuff, maybe some cannibutter as well.


Killed off the monster bagseed clone, pic moments before it's death



Aftermath shot of the roots. Airstones had to be cut out with scissors they were buried so deep in dense roots.


Got the 2 shorelines and 2 lemon skunk clones now in the flower room where the water is chilled and the AC is, running under the 1000mh for a few more days until the shorelines are ready to clone. I know they are different stages of growth, but I'm gonna start flowering these all together and just have to keep the nutes a little lower I guess. Might be learning another lesson the hard way of why this wont work out well - flowering plants together in same nute mix that are at different veg stages. Guess I will find out in about 8-9 weeks.



Feels good to have the room clean and starting again. Ran 10ml per gallon of 29% H2o2 through the system for a few hours, flushed with water, repeated, rinsed, wiped out buckets.

Thanks for all your support here guys, appreciated every little bit of feedback, advice, suggestion and "like". Happy to post more pics or answer any questions. I'll probably continue posting here or start a new journal for shorelines.

 

[shnkrmn]

Nice work. Congrats on killing the bagseed clone. It's the right thing to do.

I'm a little concerned; did you dry your harvest before jarring it? It can't go directly into jars or it will mold. Sorry if this is obvious or ignorant, but ...