Babies drooping with 600W Lighting

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mytalizas32

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Hi guys, I have six- 5gallon pots and if i hang the light level to the plants, they droop. So i have to hang it up higher. As soon as i lower it so that it can get the full light, it droops again. The are about a foot and a half away from the bare bulb. It's placed in a 4x4 room where the bulb is directly in the center of the room Anybody have this problem and have any tips?
 
HolySmoke420

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whats the temp and humidity of the room? how often are you water and whats your pH? the light should be 10-16 inches from the tops of the plants so i'd say your good.
 
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Turm

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Pics, and since youre doing a bare bulb in that size of a room I'm gonna guess its getting way too hot. Whats the temp? I have a 6x6x6 room and started off with a bare bulb, co2 enriched with 4 fans and I had to grab a cool tube to bring down the heat. Even with all that some days I'm still struggling to get it down 1 or 2 degrees.
 
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mytalizas32

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Ok.. So those are the pics that I have of them 3 hours before the Dark cycle begins. The light is directly above the plants right now and they aren't getting the full force of the light but still droop. When the light comes back on, for another 2 hours, it still droops until it recovers. The room gets to about 85 degrees at times, but is heat the issue because I thought if it's too hot, the leaves will just do that weird curling at it's tips which it doesn't do. I water once every day but not a lot where it's overflowing from the bottom. Any ideas?
 
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Turm

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Heat stress and over watering. I don't do soil but I know you're not supposed to water everyday. You need to leave them alone and get those temps down asap, imo 80F tops without co2.
 
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Irie Genetics

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Whats with the bags around the buckets? Do you have holes in those buckets for excess water to drain out? The plants are too hot but they are also having water issues.
 
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mytalizas32

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Irie Genetics said:
Whats with the bags around the buckets? Do you have holes in those buckets for excess water to drain out? The plants are too hot but they are also having water issues.
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I haven't had a chance to run to the hydro store to get the water catch tray so i used bags for now... ghetto.. i know. lol. i drilled holes on the bottom of the bucket so they excess water r/o does leave the bucket.
 
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mytalizas32

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20130504_090718 - Copy.jpg20130504_090751 - Copy.jpg So I lowered the heat down and the fan leaves are still doing this during the last few hours of the light cycle. Could it be that I dont have enough holes drilled on the bottom for excess water? But would that explain why the leaves are curling up like that? Are the lights not supposed to be directly leveled with the plants? Because if it's the light causing the fan leaves to curl up and dry up, and if I raise it higher above the plant level, how would the plant get the full light? Wouldn't it defeat the entire purpose of a Vertical light?
 
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mytalizas32

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Any other help? I've lowered the room temp down and it's still drooping. Keep in mind it's bare bulb. There's a fan under the bulb blowing up and there's ac in the room. I have an adjustable ballast so it's currently at 50% right now. As soon as I lower the bulb so that it's leveled with the plants, they start to droop and dry up. How do other 600watt grows do it in a 4x4 room?
 
Chumlee1228

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Watering with cold water can cause them to droop. I let my water sit out to get to room temp to reduce shock to the plant.
 
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mytalizas32

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From these new pictures, it looks like it's about the same distance as other 600w grows. Its my first Vert grow so let me know if Im missing something Thanks
 
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BDog76

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From these new pictures, it looks like it's about the same distance as other 600w grows. Its my first Vert grow so let me know if Im missing something Thanks
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Greetings Mytalizas, Quick cpl questions. Do you have any actual air (fan or fans) blowing ON your plants? Or just the fan blowing on your lamp for whatever reason?? Also, do you have a reflector for that 600 that you can change back to horizontal?? And finally, is that aluminum foil on your walls (I can't make out on the pics)? Mylar or flat white would give you a lot more reflection IMHO.
A couple of the girls look pretty good, but I really think you could be getting more for your bang with that set up. NOT being negative at all & I do wish you the best of luck with it!!!
 
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deephouser

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My plants drooped overnight (during their light cycle). Also using 600 watts, but in an air cooled hood. Temps never go out of the 60s, humidity has risen a bit, into the 60s as well. Never had a problem...then I switched from the 600 MH to the 600 HPS and they drooped. Also had been more than 24 hours since watering. Any ideas? Not trying to thread hijack, but could be beneficial for all.
 
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mytalizas32

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BDog76 said:
Greetings Mytalizas, Quick cpl questions. Do you have any actual air (fan or fans) blowing ON your plants? Or just the fan blowing on your lamp for whatever reason?? Also, do you have a reflector for that 600 that you can change back to horizontal?? And finally, is that aluminum foil on your walls (I can't make out on the pics)? Mylar or flat white would give you a lot more reflection IMHO.
A couple of the girls look pretty good, but I really think you could be getting more for your bang with that set up. NOT being negative at all & I do wish you the best of luck with it!!!
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No, no fans blowing on the girls but the fan i have below the bulb is on full blast, so it's moving lots of air throughout the entire room. No, I dont have a reflector. I assume you want me to change it back to reflector to see if it is indeed because the bulb may be too close to the plants? No, its not foil on the wall. It's a grow tent that is lined with reflective material. I appreciate your input, whatever else you can help with would be great.
 
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mytalizas32

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deephouser said:
My plants drooped overnight (during their light cycle). Also using 600 watts, but in an air cooled hood. Temps never go out of the 60s, humidity has risen a bit, into the 60s as well. Never had a problem...then I switched from the 600 MH to the 600 HPS and they drooped. Also had been more than 24 hours since watering. Any ideas? Not trying to thread hijack, but could be beneficial for all.
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Plants normally do some drooping during dark cycle, but i think the difference with my babies are that they droop a couple hours right before the light goes off. So I raised the light, which stopped the drooping. Whats the distance of the bulb to the girls? I've done horizontal 1000 w before and i've experience drooping in the beginning stages after introducing the new clones to the 1000 w. What i'd do is raise the light really high and then as the clones grew bigger, i slowly raised it to the correct distance and no problem from there.

The difference with this vert grow is that it's in a 4x4 room, where the bulb is directly in the center of the room, with the girls about 12-16 inches away + bare bulb, so im not able to ease in the light so that they get used to it. Im curious what other Bare Bulb 600 Club members do to avoid this issue?.
 
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SensiHerb

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if you arent watering to the point where there is no run-off at the bottom i would say definitely water MORE, but less often. 10% of the water you use should run off
 
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