Info on # 7 smart pots.

[*moonlight*]

I have a 4.5 x 4.5 area and I was going to go with 7, 7 gal smart pots. That should be plenty big enough right. Anyone else ever try the #7 smart pot for inside growing? I've heard they are the perfect size. I'm really looking into it because my last run with 2 gal plastic pots done great for about 2 months and then they got very root bound, had massive yellowing and started to die. The ones that survived had little to no yield. Hell my think different auto's barely survived and only produced thumb size buds. That's only around 70 day's! I need to upgrade. Any pictures or experiences with # 7 smart pots would be great. Thanks.

 

[hyroot]

I have them. Honestly there are better fabric pots for cheaper. Smart pots after1 batch become flimsy and do not keep shape. Root pouch and viagrowtm are much better. Make sure to type tm. There is another company call viagrow without tm in the name. I moved my smarty's outside to veggie garden and use the others indoor. They are more sturdy and aerated more. I get them from amazon.

 

[Strange Daze]

Check out my pics, I'm using the blue fabric recycled walmart bags that are .50 a bag. Same idea and so far they've been working fantastic. You can also get black ones at a dollar store for .25.

 

[Strange Daze]

Heres a pic oldest to youngest. Back right 3 are the same age, the one in the corner back there is what you'd expect using these after the roots take off.

 

[brotherjericho]

I have them. Honestly there are better fabric pots for cheaper. Smart pots after1 batch become flimsy and do not keep shape. Root pouch and viagrowtm are much better. Make sure to type tm. There is another company call viagrow without tm in the name. I moved my smarty's outside to veggie garden and use the others indoor. They are more sturdy and aerated more. I get them from amazon.

Actually, if you look closely, Viagrow and ViagrowTM are the same thing, and come from the same distributer on Amazon. I've been to one of their stores, all the same thing.

 

[TruenoAE86coupe]

If you put fabric pots close enough together to touch the roots will grow from one to the other, eliminating the idea of the fabric pots. Just use like 3 gallon smart pots, 7 7 gallons would not fit in your area, and are designed for much larger plants. I currently have a 5 1/2 foot tall, 3' around plant in 1 7 gallon. That would take your whole garden, and its just in one. Smart pots will allow the roots to build additional feeders and not get root bound, typically you can grow as big a plant in a 3 gallon smartie (or whatever fabric you go with) as a 5 gallon solid pot.
If those walmart bags work as well as smart pots then they would be stuck together in that pic, if you can pull them apart without roots going from one to the next, they are not as good as commercial fabric pots, plus what is $10 for a pot you can use dozens of times, and pull pounds out of?

 

[hyroot]

Actually, if you look closely, Viagrow and ViagrowTM are the same thing, and come from the same distributer on Amazon. I've been to one of their stores, all the same thing.

The viagrow ones cost twice as much as the viagrowtm ones.

 

[hyroot]

If you put fabric pots close enough together to touch the roots will grow from one to the other, eliminating the idea of the fabric pots. Just use like 3 gallon smart pots, 7 7 gallons would not fit in your area, and are designed for much larger plants. I currently have a 5 1/2 foot tall, 3' around plant in 1 7 gallon. That would take your whole garden, and its just in one. Smart pots will allow the roots to build additional feeders and not get root bound, typically you can grow as big a plant in a 3 gallon smartie (or whatever fabric you go with) as a 5 gallon solid pot.
If those walmart bags work as well as smart pots then they would be stuck together in that pic, if you can pull them apart without roots going from one to the next, they are not as good as commercial fabric pots, plus what is $10 for a pot you can use dozens of times, and pull pounds out of?

I have 12 7gals in a 5x 5 and they are not touching. They have plenty of space between them.

 

[TruenoAE86coupe]

Either way, its too much soil for the plants. For 7 plants in a 4.5' area, there is no reason for 7 gallon smarties, 3 would be more than enough, 5 would be over kill, and 7 is just a waste.

 

[hyroot]

^^^^ how do you figure that. The more soil the bigger the root ball. Larger the root ball larger the yield. My 3 gal in veg are root bound after.a month. Imo.3 gals are too small for flowering regardleess of space. I use compost n enzyme teas all the time. Plus if you do any water only method like super soil. You will have major problems going smaller than 5 gals. 3 gals and smaller are better suited for coco

 

[lerellion]

I use 7 gal air pots........ I have 9 in a 4 x 8 x7 tent under 2000 watts HPS and let me tell you it is WAY to much , Next run I am ONLY doing 6, However if you havn't used air pots before give em a try You will NEVER root bound a girl in these pots, No such thing as a root BALL just healthy roots.



The above pic is from my current grow 16 days into flower running muliple strains (BCN Diesel, Blueberry Gum, Holy Grail Kush, Super Lemon HAze, Mango, and Tijuanna) it has posed a dificulty managing the canopy and nutrient reqs for all these strains.

But what the hell do I know I am just a stoner.

 

[TruenoAE86coupe]

Smart pot lists the 7 gallon container at 14" base. If you have 12 of them in a 5x5 they do not have plenty of room between them.
I have grown plenty long enough to know what i am talking about, if you don't believe what i say, don't, no hair off my back. But i assure you that you are not harvesting anymore out of a 7 gallon than i am out of a 5 gallon.
I have 8 plants currently in a 7x7 room, taking up basically the whole room, save a foot on one side so i can shimmy around a bit. 1 is in a 7 gallon, everyone else in is a 5 gallon. Plants average 4 1/2' tall, and no issues ever with getting "root bound".
But if we all did the same shit, this would be a really boring world. Good luck!

 

[rleezx]

prune pots for the win

 

[Rancho Cucamonga]

Yes, #7 smart pots are the final pots I ended up with. Perfection for indoors.

I've used 3s, 5s and now 7s. More soil does equal more roots and more bud, in most cases.

I went with smart brand because they are wide and short, where as the past fabrics I used which I got locally are taller and narrower. Wide and short seem to work better for me. But any fabric pot is good. Fabrics are better than any plastic or air-prune hard pots.

I don't take flower room pics anymore but here is a past veg pic, middle pot is a 7 gal, the rest are 5s.

 

[hyroot]

In mine I have 4 rows of 3. Mine are 2-3 ft tall. Mostly master kush and cheese berry kush. Very Indica and all lst rols method. Go look at nug buckets, geek mike, subcool. They all use 10+ gals under a 400w or 600w. Their plants are short. But they average a zip per gal and have huge colas. Soma uses 10 gals and dwc. Dj short does too Every med farm ive been doesn't use anything smaller than 10 gals. Spliffferous uses 7 gal plastic pots and pulls huge too.

Go look at green Santa / enduroxx. He does 12/12 from seed in 10 gals and pulls just as big.

Anyone who does organics does not use anything smaller than 5 gals.


Btw in my first post on this thread I said smart pots suck. There are better quality fabric pots that are cheaper. Most of my smart pots are in the veggie garden outside. I'm phasing them out of the room.. I have viagrowtm and root pouch.

 

[Rancho Cucamonga]

"But they average a zip per gal and have huge colas"

I would hope they average that as I'm there and beyond with 5 gallons, now 7s. With 5s with most strains(indica dom) I reached an average of 7 zips per plant per 5 gallon long ago.
I'm tempted to try 10 gals though, to see if I could actually get a zip/zip and a half per at that size. One would think but plants do have limit for yield at some point indoors no matter how big of pot you use.

 

[hyroot]

"But they average a zip per gal and have huge colas"

I would hope they average that as I'm there and beyond with 5 gallons, now 7s. With 5s with most strains(indica dom) I reached an average of 7 zips per plant per 5 gallon long ago.
I'm tempted to try 10 gals though, to see if I could actually get a zip/zip and a half per at that size. One would think but plants do have limit for yield at some point indoors no matter how big of pot you use.

Main factor in yield is strain. My nlxog pulls 3 times what my kush pulls. Veg's 3 times faster too.

With their methods they are pulling only donkey colas. No small buds and no larf. My lst method (4 stages of tying down and super cropping) I pull only big buds too and have multiple tops at same height with an even canopy. Almost like scrog but no screen.

 

[TruenoAE86coupe]

You are forgetting that more wet/dry cycles will typically yeild better than more soil. If you use too much soil you are not going to be feeding (watering) enough. If you use too small a pot, they are going to dry out too quickly. At this point my posts take 2-3 days to dry out and that is perfect for my soil and set up. Incidentally i do grow organic, and use 3 gallons often.
Just because you think your way is right doesn't mean its the only way.
so in a 5x5 tent you have 12 plants, 84 gallons of soil. So you pull 84 ozs out of a 5x5 tent, every round? You are as full of shit as a Christmas turkey bro.
I am stating facts, you are lying, i think it is clear who to listen to here.

 

[hyroot]

Wow cherry picker here. I said they pull a zip per gallon. That's imposibble with master kush or cheese berry kush. But I pull a little over a pound with 3 northern lights x og. 3 -4 zips per kush. All colas. If I did all sativas like they do. I probably would be pulling 84 zips. Also I don't have a tent. Its an 8x8 room with area of plants taking up a 5x5.. I water every 4 days. Sometime 3 days when they dry out quicker when its hot outside. Coconut water solution every other watering then compost teas the others. Foliar sprays with aloe and kelp. Top dress with compost and ewc every 3 weeks. ROLS method. Top dress with canna mulch too and sometimes dandelion mulch.

I never said your way was wrong . You said my way was wrong. Your opinion is not fact. F-ing condescending haters man..



Seriously read the whole post before you reply. You make yourself look stupid

 

[BeastGrow]

the reason your plants died in 2 gallon pots is because you don't know how to feed plants