All noobs read this before switching your light on please.

[brotherjericho]

Is there a down-side to going with less than 12 hours of light during flowering?

From what I've read, it might decrease yield.

 

[Commander Strax]

And you should not direct this method to "NOOBS"

The new grower ( Myself Included ) have enough to worry about. The first grow should be as BASIC as possible so problems can be easily diagnosed.

Basic, Proven methods, Easy to understand instructions. You can add bells and whistles on the second grow and screw that one up.

Keep It Simple Stupid

I am not saying that it will not work,
I found the best results when I googled Gas Lantern Routine

 

[Lemon king]

And you should not direct this method to "NOOBS"

The new grower ( Myself Included ) have enough to worry about. The first grow should be as BASIC as possible so problems can be easily diagnosed.

Basic, Proven methods, Easy to understand instructions. You can add bells and whistles on the second grow and screw that one up.

Keep It Simple Stupid

I am not saying that it will not work,
I found the best results when I googled Gas Lantern Routine

the trouble is growing weed aint simple!!! and as a noob trying to get things right first go, the less the light is on the less heat related problems, light related problems and more bang for your buck.

if you google GAS LANTERN ROUTINE all will become clear im not saying everyones a sheep but considering most of you seem to scared of change, i bet you have used the same nutes since you started growing as well,

this is a proven technique used in real world farming.

ask yourself why you use 18/6 then 12/12?

its cause someone told you to, now someones saying something different.

iwill postpics of my current grow using this routine tonight.

 

[brotherjericho]

Will you post pics of clones from the same plant using the older 18/6 and 12/12 method?

 

[Lemon king]

I would believe you if you had pictures or links to grows with pictures

You have 26 posts and like a third of them are shilling this 12-5.5-1-5.5 gas light thing.


you have given a theory and then the best argument to not believe it.



If you take nothing else from this just remember the fact that something bears fruit, it does not always authenticate the methods used and certainly doesn't prove that there isn't a more effective way!!!!!!

i dont see why my post count matters and yes i have given the best argument not to belive it, in a way thats the point but there might be a more effective way and if there is we should find it, and not just go with the flow, considering how many growers are against mainstream you would have thought you would have been more open minded to change

 

[Lemon king]

Will you post pics of clones from the same plant using the older 18/6 and 12/12 method?

do not have any pics i will however finish the current grow and document on here as i go then i will do 18/6 12/12 diary with clones that i have now. it is then a real life test.


i expect it to show that plants following the gas lanternroutine will be healthier and that no yeild will be lost.

 

[AimAim]

the trouble is growing weed aint simple!!!

No, the "trouble" is some people like to make it overly complicated. It's a plant, a weed, it grows in spite of people's micromanagement.

 

[Sand4x105]

ask yourself why you use 18/6 then 12/12?

its cause someone told you to, now someones saying something different.

iwill postpics of my current grow using this routine tonight.

Well if Elmer Fudd told me to run my plants under 18/6 and 12/12 I might question his knowllege...
If Albert Einstien tells me to run something different, then I could listen...
If a random person on the Net tells me he's an expert...
I really -really doubt it, and will quietly laugh at his ideas that are not the norm...
If the cost of power is not a problem... and the up side is minor yield increase...
And the down side, is I might break my timer, and loose a crop, I'll pass...
Like I said: "Interesting, but not for me..."
----
OP says this works... OK for sake of knowing... Now I will need three rooms, for nothing is said of light times for clones...
Most here say: 24/7 for clones... Since plants share room in veg, with clones and they all get 18/6....
How much light time for clones?

 

[Lemon king]

And the down side, is I might break my timer

o dear lol

 

[Commander Strax]

i dont see why my post count matters and yes i have given the best argument not to belive it, in a way thats the point but there might be a more effective way and if there is we should find it, and not just go with the flow, considering how many growers are against mainstream you would have thought you would have been more open minded to change

Post Count = Credibility

 

[Shivaskunk]

If this method was that much better or better at all it would be adopted much more widely. It ist though.

In nature a cannabis plants entire duty is to make seeds and die. In nature plants grow best on sunny nice days and less well on short days and cloudy days. One main reason we grow indoors is to mimic those sunny days every day. Just because a plant will grow with cloudy weather and short days doesnt mean its having optimal growth. In fact i know it matters. Grow a plant in washington state and one in California and see the difference. I have.

Less hours of light equals less growth in veg and in bud and i wont stop believing what my own eyes have seen....especially without any proof.

 

[Callisto]

interesting post.

 

[TentGrower101]

I dont see why people are fools for trying new things.
Considering constant experiments have helped increase yields ( topping fim'ing lst etc)

Allot of people grow as a hobby, different methods feed the fun of it.

Who cares if the yield increases if it stays the same and there are reduced costs associated
with elec bills it might just turn out to be a good method.

But hey according to some people you would be foolish to even try.

There is a better and easier way to grow. Try bending and pulling so that all nodes get light.

I got 6z/plant, 22z/in all off 4 plants. Consistently 12/12. U know why I had such a bountiful harvest, VEGG time. I vegg 60 days or more. U want more bud, vegg longer, don't increase ur work load, duh!

 

[Trousers]

There are so many opinions (that are presented as fact) that I disagree with, I do not know where to start.
There are places on the earth that receive near 24 hours of light at times, but that is irrelevant.
First: Who is trying to replicate outdoor growing conditions?
outdoor grows can have rain, hail, high winds, bugs, mold, mildew, high temps, low temps, animals, the sun is at varying angles and intensity...

No one is trying to replicate outdoor conditions.
One year we experienced a very wet, cloudy July. The plants were tiny that year.

As we are trying to replicate the outside inside, the direct and aggressive application of light for longer then necessary will cause a plant more stress, and degrade a PLANTS genetic strength.

Got a link or something to back that up? What do you mean by 'genetic strength.'

I can not find anything to back up the idea that cannabis is stressed by 24/0.
All I can find is stories.

"Those that are in the know" lol

Stop capitalizing words, it is the equivalent of yelling.

 

[jeffblack]

I agree with the person above me. The whole back to nature campaign does not make sense to me. When you get past the fact that something is alive and really begin to study it you realize that it is just a very complicated chemical reaction. Saying well thats not how nature does it is pointless because the reaction happens in a certain set of conditions and we as growers have learned to maximize the benefits of those conditions. The reason that plants enter vegetative stage in longer dark hours is not because they actually think oh i better produce flowers now. They have hormones that build up when the lights are off and when the hormones accumalate they cause flowering. When you flash them for one hour in the middle of night like you said this reduces the hormones so that they do not accumalate. The only exception to this is that ruderalis plants produce these hormones on their own out of natural selection for a quicker reproductve cycle.
Thats not to say that organic is not good I do think that using less volatile chemicals to feed the plants is good but when it comes down to light cycles and such. I have never seen it work.

 

[Orlandocb]

the trouble is growing weed aint simple!!! and as a noob trying to get things right first go, the less the light is on the less heat related problems, light related problems and more bang for your buck.

if you google GAS LANTERN ROUTINE all will become clear im not saying everyones a sheep but considering most of you seem to scared of change, i bet you have used the same nutes since you started growing as well,

this is a proven technique used in real world farming.



ask yourself why you use 18/6 then 12/12?

its cause someone told you to, now someones saying something different.

iwill postpics of my current grow using this routine tonight.

Growing weed is a fucking incredibly easy plant to grow. You use 18/6 because it'll veg with that cycle, you put it in 12/12 so it can start flowering its part of its life cycle. And ofcourse vegging 24/0 is going to make it grow faster its going to absorb more light

 

[ricky1lung]

So what would be the best time frame for bud and trich production?
12/12 for starting budding but I have seen breeders suggest dropping down to 8 on for
more trich production.

It's all theory but it is still worth trying.

@tent grower - We all know longer veg times = more buds, we also know lst helps too.
Setting a timer really isn't work.
Duh!

 

[Lemon king]

ok here are some shots of my current lemon skunk by DNA seeds, Dna recomends harvesting between 53-56 days for the best product.

she is a clone from a very indica leaning seed that we popped.

i have used my own compass formation to make sure there is a nug in every space, she is 3x3ft at present and i will be expecting her to reach 4x4ft wide which i belive is the most and best light coverage from a 600w.

she has been topped multiple times all over and all branches lolli popped 1/2 way up.

she was in veg for 3 weeks not inc 10days root time. she was vegged under 12hrs on 5.5 off 1 on and another 5.5 off.

she is currently 3 weeks and 4 days into flower. and after 2 weeks off 11 hrs on and 13 off she is now at 10.5 hours on and 13.5 off

 

[Lemon king]

Growing weed is a fucking incredibly easy plant to grow. << o dear i think if you look in the plant problems section some growers will disagree

You use 18/6 because it'll veg with that cycle, you put it in 12/12 so it can start flowering its part of its life cycle. << because someone told you it was

And ofcourse vegging 24/0 is going to make it grow faster its going to absorb more light << im not playing silly buggers here but have you seen this geezers post count, and a couple comments up someone was saying post count = credability....o dear

im not being funny here but i have done the tests, have you??

edit: or would you prefer me to spout a bunch of shiznit untill i have a million posts just so i can say listen to me my willy, i mean post count is bigger then yours??
meanwhile good growers get disheartened because someone told them to flush for weeks when the plant was starving?? weve all seen it!!

 

[Lemon king]

Setting a timer really isn't work. !

Finally some sense!!

o n tent grower ta for the pm

Dude, posting that in the newb section was the dumbest thing I have seen. Usually 99 out of 100 newbs will have no idea what ur talking about or ware with all to accomplish such a physically challenging grow cycle.

So let's try not to confuse the kids, ur post needs to be in a section of experienced growers so we can debate it. Now u got newbs asking more stupid questions they wont understand the answers too.

Instead, why not suggest a book to read or something a little easier. U are giving info to a 2 year old child that is only acceptable to a teenager. So in other words, u did more harm than good. I posted a pic of my harvest last from 18/6 to 12/12

Here's a link to my Grow Journal, I know my shit! http://www.marijuanagrowing.com/showthread.php?1984-Afgoo-grow-Journal

There's even a video.

you dont have nothing to prove to me

JOG ON MATE!!!!!